https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house

Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
paperweight collection should be in the bin'?

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
>
> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>

Bikes are for riding.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:02:40 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house

>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?

>Bikes are for riding.

Up to a point, Lord Copper

For some machines, the pleasure of ownership is as much a part of it
as the riding. I feel a bit like that about my TZ

For a proper collectible vintage bike, having it as objet d'art in the
house seems entirely reasonable
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>
>>
>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>
> Bikes are for riding.

And the paperweight collection?

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On Friday, 18 February 2022 at 10:50:53 UTC, Eddie wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
> > On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
> >>
> >>
> >> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> >> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
> >
> > Bikes are for riding.
> And the paperweight collection?
>
> --
> Eddie ed...@deguello.org

Well despite it being Peter and a Gilera, it's not me. I wouldn't dare describe SWMBO's original sculptures as "paperweights".
Not strictly vintage either. This 74 Gilera 16er special may well be a rare (still running) 50RS. Clearly his first bike and love. If any bike I ever owned was a work of Art, it was the Voxan - or perhaps GFR.

Never had a whole bike in the house, but whole engines more than once.

Needs to build a conservatory as neutral territory for bikes and other objets d'art.

On 18/02/2022 10:33, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:02:40 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>
>> Bikes are for riding.
>
> Up to a point, Lord Copper
>
> For some machines, the pleasure of ownership is as much a part of it
> as the riding. I feel a bit like that about my TZ
>
> For a proper collectible vintage bike, having it as objet d'art in the
> house seems entirely reasonable
Or like my local pub where a Sinclair C5 and the red Dalek face each
other across an aisle...

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 18/02/2022 10:33, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:02:40 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>
>> Bikes are for riding.
>
> Up to a point, Lord Copper
>
> For some machines, the pleasure of ownership is as much a part of it
> as the riding. I feel a bit like that about my TZ
>
> For a proper collectible vintage bike, having it as objet d'art in the
> house seems entirely reasonable

In which case it should be on a plinth or whatever as it is then treated
as art.

Jean likes plants, but when they get in the way I request they are
relocated.

She likes bikes, and put up with repairing them in the kitchen/front
room many years ago. Now I doubt I would be granted the space :-)

We have bits of bikes hanging on the walls though, Jean made a "shrine"
to my stolen Pegaso :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 18/02/2022 10:50, Eddie wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>
>> Bikes are for riding.
>
> And the paperweight collection?
>

Errrm. For weighing paper? :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?

Didn't get as far as any voting buttons.

But the sentence:
"We???ve also bought a posh dishwasher ??? and Peter loves to stick
bits of his motorbike into it, which I find alarming."

reminded me of the time I advised TOG to put a cylinder head / cam
cover in the dishwasher to degrease it. I had done this myself but
I neglected to share with TOG that it required multiple repetitions
of the cleaning cycle to deal with the resulting gunk left behind.

He was quite surprised at the vehemence of the reaction of his
dear wife when the inevitable residual crud was discovered in their
presumably also-posh dishwasher.

I couldn't find the original but here's a reference.

I miss TOG.

https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/xgoJkL2fVDg/m/94_6Vim1AwAJ

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 2/18/2022 12:44 AM, Eddie wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
>
> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>
I'm a collector. (Isn't everyone? Who doesn't have a sock drawer?) I
have documented over 100 collections, from beer deckels to seashells.
But I only own 2 motorcycles, and one is in Europe. I've never parked
one in my living space, even when I lived in a garage. Maybe if I owned
a 1920 Triumph, it could stay in the living room.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 18/02/2022 11:46, YTC#1 wrote:
>
> On 18/02/2022 10:50, Eddie wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and
>>>> the paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>>
>>> Bikes are for riding.
>>
>> And the paperweight collection?
>>
>
> Errrm. For weighing paper? :-)
>

put a bit of paper under the ornamental bike. DUN.

In article <suo8hi$3uv$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
>
> Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
> > https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
> >
> > Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> > paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>
> I couldn't find the original but here's a reference.
>
> I miss TOG.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/xgoJkL2fVDg/m/94_6Vim1AwAJ

https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ

On 18/02/2022 17:18, cat wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 11:46, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>> On 18/02/2022 10:50, Eddie wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and
>>>>> the paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>>>
>>>> Bikes are for riding.
>>>
>>> And the paperweight collection?
>>>
>>
>> Errrm. For weighing paper? :-)
>>
>
> put a bit of paper under the ornamental bike. DUN.

The winner!

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 18/02/2022 18:51, petrolcan wrote:
>In article <suo8hi$3uv$1@dont-email.me>, Mark Olson says...
>>
>> Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>> >
>> > Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>> > paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>
>> I couldn't find the original but here's a reference.
>>
>> I miss TOG.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/xgoJkL2fVDg/m/94_6Vim1AwAJ
>
>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ

Very good stuff :-)

--
Geoff

On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
>
> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?

Good God, what tosh. And they have the cheek to end the page with:

"Unlike many others, the Guardian has no shareholders and no billionaire
owner. Just the determination and passion to deliver high-impact global
reporting, always free from commercial or political influence. Reporting
like this is vital for democracy, for fairness and to demand better from
the powerful."

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On 18/02/2022 10:50, Eddie wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>
>> Bikes are for riding.
>
> And the paperweight collection?

Weightier matters, of course.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:38:42 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:

>On 18/02/2022 18:51, petrolcan wrote:

>>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ

>Very good stuff :-)

That took me right back
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:30:53 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:38:42 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>
>>On 18/02/2022 18:51, petrolcan wrote:
>
>>>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ
>
>>Very good stuff :-)
>
>That took me right back

And me.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On 18/02/2022 10:50, Eddie wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>
>> Bikes are for riding.
>
> And the paperweight collection?

The Gilera is obviously part of it.

An old friend of mine used to keep his immaculate BSA A10 in the front
room. Looked very nice.

In this couple's case, if he's determined not to keep the ornamental
Gilera in the garage, he needs to negotiate an acceptable location with
his other half. Location for the bike, that is, not for him and/or her.
I can sympathise with both of them, with 30+ basses and guitars, I have
to try and keep them out of the way as much as possible.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 5:51:11 PM UTC, petrolcan wrote:

> https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ

That was a pleasant few minutes, wallowing in nostalgia.

--
WUN

On 18/02/2022 17:18, cat wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 11:46, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>> On 18/02/2022 10:50, Eddie wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 10:02, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 08:44, Eddie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and
>>>>> the paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>>>>
>>>> Bikes are for riding.
>>>
>>> And the paperweight collection?
>>
>> Errrm. For weighing paper? :-)
>
> put a bit of paper under the ornamental bike. DUN.

.... is the right answer.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 15:08:50 UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:30:53 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:38:42 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <m...@home.nl> wrote:
> >
> >>On 18/02/2022 18:51, petrolcan wrote:
> >
> >>>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ
> >
> >>Very good stuff :-)
> >
> >That took me right back
> And me.

I was absent at that time but recognised a lot of the names.

Quite shocking that it was 2004. I mean, where's my fucking life gone?

I'm not sure that there's been anything to replace the social 'contact' that was enabled
by usenet around the turn of the century. Well usenet+IRC.
- Facebook seems too fragmented and attracts the wrong people.
- Instagram's just a bunch of lifestyle boasting.
- Twitter, well I'm not sure about; I think it's full of people paid to spout opinions often by people
with the opposite opinions... I think it's very dangerous. Or maybe it's just my curation of twitter
that's like that.
And all the other 'networks'; Twitch, TikTok, whatever... well I'm not omnipresent. Maybe it exists
there? I somehow doubt it though.
Usenet+IRC did have a significant impact on lives at a certain point in time. I think
the fact it wasn't altogether easy to access it possibly helped, although maybe that was
more like 1995 or so than 2000. Or maybe I'm just getting old and sentimental and harking
back to better days when we had kb instead of gb.

On 20/02/2022 15:42, Stephen Packer wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 15:08:50 UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:30:53 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:38:42 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <m...@home.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/02/2022 18:51, petrolcan wrote:
>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-jV6TrVs/m/sf7JRCp8Y0IJ
>>>
>>>> Very good stuff :-)
>>>
>>> That took me right back
>> And me.
>
> I was absent at that time but recognised a lot of the names.
>
> Quite shocking that it was 2004. I mean, where's my fucking life gone?
>
> I'm not sure that there's been anything to replace the social 'contact' that was enabled
> by usenet around the turn of the century. Well usenet+IRC.
> - Facebook seems too fragmented and attracts the wrong people.
> - Instagram's just a bunch of lifestyle boasting.
> - Twitter, well I'm not sure about; I think it's full of people paid to spout opinions often by people
> with the opposite opinions... I think it's very dangerous. Or maybe it's just my curation of twitter
> that's like that.
> And all the other 'networks'; Twitch, TikTok, whatever... well I'm not omnipresent. Maybe it exists
> there? I somehow doubt it though.
>
> Usenet+IRC did have a significant impact on lives at a certain point in time. I think
> the fact it wasn't altogether easy to access it possibly helped, although maybe that was
> more like 1995 or so than 2000. Or maybe I'm just getting old and sentimental and harking
> back to better days when we had kb instead of gb.

And as for those that insist on using 'Whatsapp' "because its so much
safer than facebook messenger" - which they won't go near!
FFS

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:72c6e5dd-655b-45aa-bb32-1c8f1e3826a0n@googlegroups.com:

> On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 15:08:50 UTC, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:30:53 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:38:42 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <m...@home.nl>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 18/02/2022 18:51, petrolcan wrote:
>> >
>> >>>https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.motorcycles/c/yF6-
jV6TrVs/m/sf7J
>> >>>RCp8Y0IJ
>> >
>> >>Very good stuff :-)
>> >
>> >That took me right back
>> And me.
>
> I was absent at that time but recognised a lot of the names.
>
> Quite shocking that it was 2004. I mean, where's my fucking life
> gone?
>
> I'm not sure that there's been anything to replace the social
> 'contact' that was enabled by usenet around the turn of the century.
> Well usenet+IRC. - Facebook seems too fragmented and attracts the
> wrong people. - Instagram's just a bunch of lifestyle boasting.
> - Twitter, well I'm not sure about; I think it's full of people paid
> to spout opinions often by people with the opposite opinions... I
> think it's very dangerous. Or maybe it's just my curation of twitter
> that's like that.
> And all the other 'networks'; Twitch, TikTok, whatever... well I'm not
> omnipresent. Maybe it exists there? I somehow doubt it though.
>
> Usenet+IRC did have a significant impact on lives at a certain point
> in time. I think the fact it wasn't altogether easy to access it
> possibly helped, although maybe that was more like 1995 or so than
> 2000. Or maybe I'm just getting old and sentimental and harking back
> to better days when we had kb instead of gb.

I am a relative upstart, joining UKRM in 1999, so don't have the
nostalgia for anything before the.

Most of the people I go on holiday with are those I made first contact
with via UKRM. It's a sort of extension to the Alpinestars trip we did,
a genteel version. All bar 2 of us are retired.

The closest thing on the internet from a social contact aspect has been
the Yahoo group that morphed into the UKGSer forum. It has pretty
minimal moderation. Through this medium, I have made a few real life
friends, fallen out with many, gone on trips, got laid and had a few
laughs. Bonwick has settled there.

Sadly, the wanker quota on UKGSer is higher than UKRM and I think that
is due to the ease of access.

On 20/02/2022 16:42, wessie wrote:
>
> The closest thing on the internet from a social contact aspect has been
> the Yahoo group that morphed into the UKGSer forum. It has pretty
> minimal moderation. Through this medium, I have made a few real life
> friends, fallen out with many, gone on trips, got laid and had a few
> laughs. Bonwick has settled there.
>
> Sadly, the wanker quota on UKGSer is higher than UKRM and I think that
> is due to the ease of access.

<fx: raises eyebrow> GS?
Oh, its BMWs, not Suzukis....
Is this review representative?
"Search domain reviewcentre.comhttps://www.reviewcentre.com ›
reviews172239-html
It appears to be more than just about motorbikes, ukgser seems to be a
means for the old, infirm, housebound and socially inept to communicate.
But be prepared to wade through a lot of attempted humor from a regular
crowd of keyboard recluses spouting in-jokes and trying to chat up the
one of the few women that frequents the forum. Take it with a pinch of
salt and you… Read Full Review. If ..."

:-)

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk