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 by: Tease'n'Se - Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:16 UTC

HTF have I managed to lose a pair of bathroom scales?

Answers on a post card to Behind the Settee, T's & C's Towers

And yes I've looked there.

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44 UTC

In article <EvmdnevEmc14_qb_nZ2dnUU7-cPNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
Tease'n'Seize <tease-and-seize@invalid.?> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at
18:16:04 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>HTF have I managed to lose a pair of bathroom scales?
>
>Answers on a post card to Behind the Settee, T's & C's Towers
>
>And yes I've looked there.
>
Under the settee? <Grin>

Under the bath or behind the bath.

Under that big box you were weighing before you shipped it.

In the big box you were going to/have shipped.

Hidden on top of the wardrobe; hidden so that you were not tempted to
weigh yourself.

Behind/under the bed?

Your standing on it!

Lent out but not yet returned.

I have done most of these.

My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
wearing her hat.

My mother used to run round looking for her glasses, which were perched
on top of her head. That could not happen to me; my hair is too thin.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:06 UTC

On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
> wearing her hat.

I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
just using and is currently held in my left hand.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:56 UTC

In article <20220323190648.f1d46516be75c26e63ddcb33@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 19:06:48 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>> wearing her hat.
>
> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
>just using and is currently held in my left hand.
>
It's not just me then.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Richard Robinson - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 02:42 UTC

Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <20220323190648.f1d46516be75c26e63ddcb33@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 19:06:48 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
>>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>>> wearing her hat.
>>
>> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
>>just using and is currently held in my left hand.
>>
> It's not just me then.

We're us, we are.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

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 by: Mike Spencer - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 05:51 UTC

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:

> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>> wearing her hat.
>
> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
> just using and is currently held in my left hand.

Ah, now I feel better about having stalked all over the house looking
for my pipe that I finally found firmly clenched in my teeth. And
that was 50 years before my present state of increasing geriatric
decrepitude.

I still twit my former room mate from even longer ago who stamped into
the room from the bath, belligerently accusing me of having done
something with his towel that was wrapped around his waist.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:46 UTC

On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:42:21 -0500
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> Nicholas D. Richards said:
> > In article <20220323190648.f1d46516be75c26e63ddcb33@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> > Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 19:06:48 awoke
> > Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
> >>On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
> >>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
> >>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
> >>> wearing her hat.
> >>
> >> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
> >>just using and is currently held in my left hand.
> >>
> > It's not just me then.
>
> We're us, we are.
>
My son has early onset; water bottle not found this morning (it was left in the garden yesterday).
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: ChrisND@privacy.net - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:30 UTC

On 24/03/2022 05:51, Mike Spencer wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>>> wearing her hat.
>>
>> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
>> just using and is currently held in my left hand.
>
> Ah, now I feel better about having stalked all over the house looking
> for my pipe that I finally found firmly clenched in my teeth. And
> that was 50 years before my present state of increasing geriatric
> decrepitude.

You had a pipe, which you could not find, clenched between your teeth
for fifty years?

Was it a feeding tube?
Beer delivery method?

Chris

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:56 UTC

On 24-Mar-22 12:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
> On 24/03/2022 05:51, Mike Spencer wrote:
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
>>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>>>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>>>> wearing her hat.
>>>
>>> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
>>> just using and is currently held in my left hand.
>>
>> Ah, now I feel better about having stalked all over the house looking
>> for my pipe that I finally found firmly clenched in my teeth.  And
>> that was 50 years before my present state of increasing geriatric
>> decrepitude.
>
> You had a pipe, which you could not find, clenched between your teeth
> for fifty years?
>
> Was it a feeding tube?
> Beer delivery method?

Evidently a sidelong reference to Magritte's

"Ceci n’est pas une pipe".

He just assumed Sheddies would grasp the allusion, and draw(sorry!) the
correct conclusion.

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:40 UTC

On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:56:39 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 24-Mar-22 12:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>> On 24/03/2022 05:51, Mike Spencer wrote:
>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
>>>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>>>>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>>>>> wearing her hat.
>>>>
>>>> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
>>>> just using and is currently held in my left hand.
>>>
>>> Ah, now I feel better about having stalked all over the house looking
>>> for my pipe that I finally found firmly clenched in my teeth.  And
>>> that was 50 years before my present state of increasing geriatric
>>> decrepitude.
>>
>> You had a pipe, which you could not find, clenched between your teeth
>> for fifty years?
>>
>> Was it a feeding tube?
>> Beer delivery method?
>
>Evidently a sidelong reference to Magritte's
>
>"Ceci n’est pas une pipe".
>
>He just assumed Sheddies would grasp the allusion, and draw(sorry!) the
>correct conclusion.

Well played, sir!

(What a pity our cricketers are not in your class.)

Nick

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 25 Mar 2022 19:42 UTC

On 24-Mar-22 22:40, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:56:39 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24-Mar-22 12:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>> On 24/03/2022 05:51, Mike Spencer wrote:
>>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:44:45 +0000
>>>>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My wife was looking for something recently and getting very shirty.
>>>>>> When I eventually got her to tell me what it was, she was already
>>>>>> wearing her hat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been known to search frantically for the screwdriver I was
>>>>> just using and is currently held in my left hand.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, now I feel better about having stalked all over the house looking
>>>> for my pipe that I finally found firmly clenched in my teeth.  And
>>>> that was 50 years before my present state of increasing geriatric
>>>> decrepitude.
>>>
>>> You had a pipe, which you could not find, clenched between your teeth
>>> for fifty years?
>>>
>>> Was it a feeding tube?
>>> Beer delivery method?
>>
>> Evidently a sidelong reference to Magritte's
>>
>> "Ceci n’est pas une pipe".
>>
>> He just assumed Sheddies would grasp the allusion, and draw(sorry!) the
>> correct conclusion.
>
> Well played, sir!
>
> (What a pity our cricketers are not in your class.)

If they had been in my class they would all be over 70 years old, and...

that might explain a few things.

P.S. Better today.

--
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On 23 March 2022 Tease'n'Seize wrote:

> HTF have I managed to lose a pair of bathroom scales?

Finally they've turned-up, nowhere near the back of the settee, shoved down the side of a box of tools!

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Fri, 31 Mar 2023 19:22 UTC

In article <9e1afd7a-93ac-42a5-b70d-97712c5e6c11n@googlegroups.com>,
Andy Burns <andynexus1@gmail.com> on Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 05:46:52 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 23 March 2022 Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>
>> HTF have I managed to lose a pair of bathroom scales?
>
>Finally they've turned-up, nowhere near the back of the settee, shoved down the
>side of a box of tools!

I keep mine behind the toolbox. That is deliberate, the toolbox is too
heavy for me to lift out of the way.
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 by: Brian Gaff - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 12:30 UTC

Talking about lost stuff, I seem to have misplaced a cable and adaptor that
runs a parallel printer on a usb. I remember putting it in a safe place
about a year back, but all the safe places seem to be full of things I never
knew I had.
Brian

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"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in message
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> In article <9e1afd7a-93ac-42a5-b70d-97712c5e6c11n@googlegroups.com>,
> Andy Burns <andynexus1@gmail.com> on Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 05:46:52 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>On 23 March 2022 Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>
>>> HTF have I managed to lose a pair of bathroom scales?
>>
>>Finally they've turned-up, nowhere near the back of the settee, shoved
>>down the
>>side of a box of tools!
>
> I keep mine behind the toolbox. That is deliberate, the toolbox is too
> heavy for me to lift out of the way.
> --
> 0sterc@tcher -
>
> "O� sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Tone - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 13:10 UTC

On 01/04/2023 13:30, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Talking about lost stuff, I seem to have misplaced a cable and adaptor

Maybe it's adapted itself to something else?

Tone

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 by: maus - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 13:31 UTC

On 2023-04-01, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
> Talking about lost stuff, I seem to have misplaced a cable and adaptor that
> runs a parallel printer on a usb. I remember putting it in a safe place
> about a year back, but all the safe places seem to be full of things I never
> knew I had.
> Brian
>

Your computer has a centronics interface?. What on earth for?.

--
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 by: chrisnd@privacy.net - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 13:45 UTC

On 01/04/2023 14:31, maus wrote:
> On 2023-04-01, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Talking about lost stuff, I seem to have misplaced a cable and adaptor that
>> runs a parallel printer on a usb. I remember putting it in a safe place
>> about a year back, but all the safe places seem to be full of things I never
>> knew I had.
>> Brian
>>
>
> Your computer has a centronics interface?. What on earth for?.

I suspect he means the other way round?

I am still running a perfectly good HP Laserjet 4 off an ubuntu
22.04/win7 laptop using such a cable :-)

Chris

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 by: John Williamson - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 14:18 UTC

On 01/04/2023 14:45, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:

> I am still running a perfectly good HP Laserjet 4 off an ubuntu
> 22.04/win7 laptop using such a cable :-)
>
HP printers are weird. Many years ago, I touched the wrong button on a
Nokia Communicator, and the HP printer on the other side of the room
printed the page I was viewing on screen. I didn't even know the phone
*could* drive a printer.

It turned out the printer had an IR port on it that nobody in the office
knew about, and the phone had a built in Postscript driver for its IR
port in its firmware.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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 by: chrisnd@privacy.net - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 15:13 UTC

On 01/04/2023 15:18, John Williamson wrote:
> On 01/04/2023 14:45, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> I am still running a perfectly good HP Laserjet 4 off an ubuntu
>> 22.04/win7 laptop using such a cable :-)
>>
> HP printers are weird. Many years ago, I touched the wrong button on a
> Nokia Communicator, and the HP printer on the other side of the room
> printed the page I was viewing on screen. I didn't even know the phone
> *could* drive a printer.
>
> It turned out the printer had an IR port on it that nobody in the office
> knew about, and the phone had a built in Postscript driver for its IR
> port in its firmware.
>
Wow!
Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
is never).

It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
default (or re-enabled during updates!)

Chris

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 by: John Williamson - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:26 UTC

On 01/04/2023 16:13, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:

> Wow!
> Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
> turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
> is never).
>
As soon as I found out about it, I disabled it. Too many ways to
accidentally spend money, even if you've not been hacked.

> It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
> default (or re-enabled during updates!)
>
True. Most of them are related to stuff I neither need nor want. If I
want to tell someone my details, it's as easy to send them a text as it
is to turn the NFC on, activate the app and wander over until our phones
can have a nice cosy chat. To pay for stuff, I have a contactless card
which never leaves my sight except when it's in my wallet, and the only
problem I've had with that was a couple of days after I made my first
ever on line purchase using the Digital River, when someone used the
details to twice pull 500 USD out of a bank machine 8,000 miles from
where I'd just paid for my groceries.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:33 UTC

On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-5, John Williamson wrote:
> On 01/04/2023 16:13, chr...@privacy.net wrote:
>
> > Wow!
> > Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
> > turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
> > is never).
> >
> As soon as I found out about it, I disabled it. Too many ways to
> accidentally spend money, even if you've not been hacked.
> > It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
> > default (or re-enabled during updates!)
> >
> True. Most of them are related to stuff I neither need nor want. If I
> want to tell someone my details, it's as easy to send them a text as it
> is to turn the NFC on, activate the app and wander over until our phones
> can have a nice cosy chat. To pay for stuff, I have a contactless card
> which never leaves my sight except when it's in my wallet, and the only
> problem I've had with that was a couple of days after I made my first
> ever on line purchase using the Digital River, when someone used the
> details to twice pull 500 USD out of a bank machine 8,000 miles from
> where I'd just paid for my groceries.
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.

wow! Things are sure getting complicated. Is that a good thing, or a bad thing?

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 by: hub...@ccanoemail.com - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:46 UTC

On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 17:26:37 +0100, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On 01/04/2023 16:13, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> Wow!
>> Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
>> turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
>> is never).
>>
>As soon as I found out about it, I disabled it. Too many ways to
>accidentally spend money, even if you've not been hacked.
>
>> It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
>> default (or re-enabled during updates!)
>>
>True. Most of them are related to stuff I neither need nor want. If I
>want to tell someone my details, it's as easy to send them a text as it
>is to turn the NFC on, activate the app and wander over until our phones
>can have a nice cosy chat. To pay for stuff, I have a contactless card
>which never leaves my sight except when it's in my wallet, and the only
>problem I've had with that was a couple of days after I made my first
>ever on line purchase using the Digital River, when someone used the
>details to twice pull 500 USD out of a bank machine 8,000 miles from
>where I'd just paid for my groceries.
>

Thanks !
I just turned off the NFC in my smart-phone -
- after ~ 3 years of living dangerously. :-)
And the wife did too.
John T.

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 by: Bob Henson - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 17:52 UTC

On 1/4/23 5:26 pm, John Williamson wrote:
> On 01/04/2023 16:13, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> Wow!
>> Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
>> turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
>> is never).
>>
> As soon as I found out about it, I disabled it. Too many ways to
> accidentally spend money, even if you've not been hacked.
>
>> It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
>> default (or re-enabled during updates!)
>>
> True. Most of them are related to stuff I neither need nor want. If I
> want to tell someone my details, it's as easy to send them a text as it
> is to turn the NFC on, activate the app and wander over until our phones
> can have a nice cosy chat. To pay for stuff, I have a contactless card
> which never leaves my sight except when it's in my wallet, and the only
> problem I've had with that was a couple of days after I made my first
> ever on line purchase using the Digital River, when someone used the
> details to twice pull 500 USD out of a bank machine 8,000 miles from
> where I'd just paid for my groceries.
>
>

Don't think your card is safe in your wallet, it can be scanned and
subsequently cloned by anyone passing close. I'd recommend a passive RF
protection card next to it in your wallet.

--
Regards,

Bob

Inside every old man is a young man wondering what the hell happened.

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 by: Tim+ - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 18:06 UTC

Bob Henson <fake@obfuscation.net> wrote:
> On 1/4/23 5:26 pm, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 01/04/2023 16:13, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>> Wow!
>>> Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
>>> turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
>>> is never).
>>>
>> As soon as I found out about it, I disabled it. Too many ways to
>> accidentally spend money, even if you've not been hacked.
>>
>>> It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
>>> default (or re-enabled during updates!)
>>>
>> True. Most of them are related to stuff I neither need nor want. If I
>> want to tell someone my details, it's as easy to send them a text as it
>> is to turn the NFC on, activate the app and wander over until our phones
>> can have a nice cosy chat. To pay for stuff, I have a contactless card
>> which never leaves my sight except when it's in my wallet, and the only
>> problem I've had with that was a couple of days after I made my first
>> ever on line purchase using the Digital River, when someone used the
>> details to twice pull 500 USD out of a bank machine 8,000 miles from
>> where I'd just paid for my groceries.
>>
>>
>
> Don't think your card is safe in your wallet, it can be scanned and
> subsequently cloned by anyone passing close. I'd recommend a passive RF
> protection card next to it in your wallet.
>

I threw away my tin foil hat. Much happier without it. My cards ride
“bareback” and I have NFC on.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

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 by: Bob Henson - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 18:13 UTC

On 1/4/23 7:06 pm, Tim+ wrote:
> Bob Henson <fake@obfuscation.net> wrote:
>> On 1/4/23 5:26 pm, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 01/04/2023 16:13, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow!
>>>> Mined ewe, it is only recently that I discovered the importance of
>>>> turning off something called NFC in my phone when it isn't in use (which
>>>> is never).
>>>>
>>> As soon as I found out about it, I disabled it. Too many ways to
>>> accidentally spend money, even if you've not been hacked.
>>>
>>>> It is scary that so many potential vulnerabilities are turned on by
>>>> default (or re-enabled during updates!)
>>>>
>>> True. Most of them are related to stuff I neither need nor want. If I
>>> want to tell someone my details, it's as easy to send them a text as it
>>> is to turn the NFC on, activate the app and wander over until our phones
>>> can have a nice cosy chat. To pay for stuff, I have a contactless card
>>> which never leaves my sight except when it's in my wallet, and the only
>>> problem I've had with that was a couple of days after I made my first
>>> ever on line purchase using the Digital River, when someone used the
>>> details to twice pull 500 USD out of a bank machine 8,000 miles from
>>> where I'd just paid for my groceries.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Don't think your card is safe in your wallet, it can be scanned and
>> subsequently cloned by anyone passing close. I'd recommend a passive RF
>> protection card next to it in your wallet.
>>
>
> I threw away my tin foil hat. Much happier without it. My cards ride
> “bareback” and I have NFC on.

I have it on too - it's pretty safe on the phone and my watch, but the
wallet is too easy to scan so I have a RF card in there.

--
Regards,

Bob

Inside every old man is a young man wondering what the hell happened.

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