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* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.steve hague
+* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Jim Easterbrook
|+- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.steve hague
|+- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Kate B
|`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
| `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.steve hague
|  +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Nick Odell
|  |+- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Jim Easterbrook
|  |`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  | +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Sid Nuncius
|  | |+- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Penny
|  | |`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.steve hague
|  | | `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Sid Nuncius
|  | |  +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.steve hague
|  | |  |`- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Sid Nuncius
|  | |  `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  | |   `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Chris
|  | |    +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  | |    |`- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Chris
|  | |    `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Mike Ruddock
|  | +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Linda Fox
|  | |+- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  | |`- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Vicky
|  | +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Chris
|  | |+* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.BrritSki
|  | ||+* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Vicky
|  | |||`- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Min
|  | ||`- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Sid Nuncius
|  | |+* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Min
|  | ||`- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Chris
|  | |`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Linda Fox
|  | | `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Mike McMillan
|  | `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Kate B
|  |  +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  |  |`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Vicky
|  |  | +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Nick Odell
|  |  | |`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  |  | | `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Nick Odell
|  |  | |  `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  |  | +* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Jenny M Benson
|  |  | |`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Vicky
|  |  | | `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Jenny M Benson
|  |  | |  `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  |  | |   `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Jim Easterbrook
|  |  | |    `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Sid Nuncius
|  |  | |     `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  |  | `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Penny
|  |  |  +- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
|  |  |  +- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Nick Odell
|  |  |  `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Vicky
|  |  `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Sid Nuncius
|  `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Clive Arthur
|   `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Linda Fox
|    `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Mike McMillan
`* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Tony Smith
 `* I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Linda Fox
  +- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.J. P. Gilliver (John)
  `- I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.Tony Smith

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Re: I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.

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Subject: Re: I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Completely OT.
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 by: Tony Smith - Wed, 18 May 2022 19:06 UTC

On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 12:15:40 UTC+1, Linda Fox wrote:
> Tony Smith <agsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 09:25:33 UTC+1, steve hague wrote:
> >> It seems that when any spectacular astronomical event is due to be
> >> visible from hereabouts, heavy clouds form. When the solar eclipse
> >> happened in 1999, we lived in a village right in the middle of the path
> >> of totality. The clouds rolled in several hours before the eclipse, and
> >> rolled out again several hours later. Yesterday there was a blood moon
> >> to be seen at dawn, and since I get up at 5 when on church duty, I was
> >> looking forward to seeing it. What I saw was a leaden sky. I have never
> >> seen the Perseids. Today we had a clear blue sky at sunrise.
> >> Steve
> >
> > We went to Szeged in Hungary to see the 1999 eclipse. The day began
> > cloudy but the hotelier said it was reported clearing from the west and
> > lake Balaton was already clear. Se we drove off in that direction (we had
> > brought the car) and it cleared up long before Balaton at a little
> > lakeside camp site near Soltvadkert (spelling) and we saw it perfectly.
> > The queues at the snack bars afterwards were ginirmous. My godfather in
> > Saarbrücken however had a thunderstorm so the skies were doubly dark.
> >
> We went on a coach trip to Luxembourg to see it. Total cloud cover so we
> never saw the sun. We did notice it getting darker and cooler and
> afterwards the strange phenomenon of the light slowly rolling towards us,
> not just all around us gradually growing brighter.

Your storm in Luxembourg must have been the same storm as my godfather's in Saarbrücken.

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 by: Vicky - Wed, 18 May 2022 21:46 UTC

On Wed, 18 May 2022 20:04:40 +0100, BrritSki
<rtilburyTAKEAWAY@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 18/05/2022 18:39, Chris wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 20:02:18, Nick Odell
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I hadn't known that Joni Mitchell had written it, I'd have guessed
>>>> it had been by Julie Felix. Felix appeared to be, IMO, "the acceptable
>>>> face of the American Folk movement" and always seemed to be on our
>>>> television singing other people's songs.
>>>>
>>> I don't (knowingly) know Ms. Felix.
>>>
>> “We’re going to the zoo” (and we can stay all day) was written and sung by
>> her.
>>
>She sang a version of it but it was written by Tom Paxton [kf] who I saw
>live in a small upstairs room in a pub in Coventry when I was still at
>school, so must have been 1964/5.

I usually see him when he is over giving concerts in the UK. Going to
the zoo is one of his songs for children and I had the tape of these
to play to my daughters and then the cd to play to grandchildren. I
tried to play guitar at various times over the years and had his
songbook. I have his first two LPs. His songs sort of echoed the time
of life I was at. Last time I think was one about his grandson. Years
ago he wrote one for each daughter.

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 by: Min - Thu, 19 May 2022 00:13 UTC

On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 18:39:02 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 20:02:18, Nick Odell
> > <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
> >> On Tue, 17 May 2022 19:27:01 +0100, steve hague
> >> <steveh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > []
> >>>> P. S. I've just remembered that the song title doesn't have "clouds" -
> >>>> and I _do_ have an mp3 (and yes, by NM).
> >>>
> >>> NM? JM shirly.
> >>
> >> According to https://secondhandsongs.com/performance/2558 there are
> >> 436 cover versions of Joni Mitchell's Both Sides Now and I'm guessing
> >> - not entirely without evidence - that John has the Nana Mouskouri
> >> version in mind.
> >
> > Correct; it suits he gentle style. (Not to say that it also doesn't suit
> > some of the other 435!) Or rather her gentle style suits it. IMO of
> > course.
> >
> > Unusually for Nana, I only have an English version ... (-: [Checking ....
> > I see she does have a French version.]
> >>
> >> If I hadn't known that Joni Mitchell had written it, I'd have guessed
> >> it had been by Julie Felix. Felix appeared to be, IMO, "the acceptable
> >> face of the American Folk movement" and always seemed to be on our
> >> television singing other people's songs.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >
> > I don't (knowingly) know Ms. Felix.
> >
> > Some people are good at singing others' songs - in the same way some are
> > better at writing lyrics to others' melodies. There are the obvious
> > pairings who did that from the start, like the Gershwins, and Rogers and
> > Hart/Hammerstein (and did Simon & Garfunkel mostly do that?), but there
> > are also cases where someone writes a melody which becomes known, and
> > then someone writes words that seem to fit it very well some time later;
> > lots of classical pieces (which in some cases make some people groan
> > when someone puts words to them), but sometimes others - Don Black comes
> > to mind as IMO a lyric writer whose words to other people's tunes work
> > better than those to his own tunes.
> >
> > I've come across some quite startling classical pieces that have been
> > "worded" - the Valse Minute by Richard Stilgoe and Barbra Streisand (not
> > both at once!), Mozart 40, Aranjuez, Brahms' lullaby (at least two
> > sets), Beethoven 9 (not his words). The one that I think I've seen more
> > purists wince at than any other is Saint-Saens' organ symphony (not
> > least because it is in one case sung to a pig, though that wasn't by
> > those who first put the words to it).
> >
> > The oddest I've come across to have words put to them are Chariots of
> > Fire, and the Luftwaffe March (a. k. a. Aces High) [Ron Goodwin]. That
> > last one had me puzzled for quite a while when I came across it sung, as
> > I knew the tune well but couldn't place it!
> “We’re going to the zoo” (and we can stay all day) was written and sung by
> her.
>
> Sincerely Chris
Sorry, Chris - that was/is written by Tom Paxton.
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Min

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 by: Min - Thu, 19 May 2022 00:14 UTC

On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 22:46:38 UTC+1, Vicky wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 20:04:40 +0100, BrritSki
> <rtilbury...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 18/05/2022 18:39, Chris wrote:
> >> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 20:02:18, Nick Odell
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If I hadn't known that Joni Mitchell had written it, I'd have guessed
> >>>> it had been by Julie Felix. Felix appeared to be, IMO, "the acceptable
> >>>> face of the American Folk movement" and always seemed to be on our
> >>>> television singing other people's songs.
> >>>>
> >>> I don't (knowingly) know Ms. Felix.
> >>>
> >> “We’re going to the zoo” (and we can stay all day) was written and sung by
> >> her.
> >>
> >She sang a version of it but it was written by Tom Paxton [kf] who I saw
> >live in a small upstairs room in a pub in Coventry when I was still at
> >school, so must have been 1964/5.
> I usually see him when he is over giving concerts in the UK. Going to
> the zoo is one of his songs for children and I had the tape of these
> to play to my daughters and then the cd to play to grandchildren. I
> tried to play guitar at various times over the years and had his
> songbook. I have his first two LPs. His songs sort of echoed the time
> of life I was at. Last time I think was one about his grandson. Years
> ago he wrote one for each daughter.
One of my absolute favourites - I have seen him in this country and the US
and have a CD signed by him <kf>.
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Min

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Thu, 19 May 2022 05:25 UTC

On 18/05/2022 20:04, BrritSki wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 18:39, Chris wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 20:02:18, Nick Odell
>>>>
>>>> If I hadn't known that Joni Mitchell had written it, I'd have guessed
>>>> it had been by Julie Felix. Felix appeared to be, IMO, "the acceptable
>>>> face of the American Folk movement" and always seemed to be on our
>>>> television singing other people's songs.
>>>>
>>> I don't (knowingly) know Ms. Felix.
>>>
>> “We’re going to the zoo” (and we can stay all day) was written and
>> sung by
>> her.
>>
> She sang a version of it but it was written by Tom Paxton

For which I have never forgiven Julie Felix. God, what a boring,
annoying record! (Which, of course, I shall now have as an earworm for
the foreseeable...)

Tom Paxton, of course, can do whatever he likes and still command my
affection and respect.

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Thu, 19 May 2022 05:27 UTC

On 18/05/2022 18:56, Kate B wrote:
> On 17/05/2022 22:51, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>
>> I've come across some quite startling classical pieces that have been
>> "worded" - the Valse Minute by Richard Stilgoe and Barbra Streisand
>> (not both at once!), Mozart 40, Aranjuez, Brahms' lullaby (at least
>> two sets), Beethoven 9 (not his words). The one that I think I've seen
>> more purists wince at than any other is Saint-Saens' organ symphony
>> (not least because it is in one case sung to a pig, though that wasn't
>> by those who first put the words to it).
>
> The best of all is the Mozart Horn Concerto
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHWnFJ4_61U

Agreed. A pure gem.

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Thu, 19 May 2022 06:36 UTC

On 18/05/2022 09:57, steve hague wrote:

> I first heard JM on a juke box in a pub. It was her single "Woodstock",
> so that dates it pretty closely. We bought all her albums as soon as
> they were released untill the middle of her jazz period, at which point
> we decided she'd lost her gift for melody, and her lyrics weren't
> getting any better either. She was a great song writer for a number of
> years.

I did the same, but the jazz lost me. She did make some fine albums
later, though. Night Ride Home and Turbulent Indigo are up there, I think.

I agree about her songwriting. At her greatest she's almost unmatched, I
think. Blue is one of the very finest albums ever made, IMO.

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 by: Linda Fox - Thu, 19 May 2022 07:41 UTC

Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 20:02:18, Nick Odell
>> <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 19:27:01 +0100, steve hague
>>> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>> []
>>>>> P. S. I've just remembered that the song title doesn't have "clouds" -
>>>>> and I _do_ have an mp3 (and yes, by NM).
>>>>
>>>> NM? JM shirly.
>>>
>>> According to https://secondhandsongs.com/performance/2558 there are
>>> 436 cover versions of Joni Mitchell's Both Sides Now and I'm guessing
>>> - not entirely without evidence - that John has the Nana Mouskouri
>>> version in mind.
>>
>> Correct; it suits he gentle style. (Not to say that it also doesn't suit
>> some of the other 435!) Or rather her gentle style suits it. IMO of
>> course.
>>
>> Unusually for Nana, I only have an English version ... (-: [Checking ...
>> I see she does have a French version.]
>>>
>>> If I hadn't known that Joni Mitchell had written it, I'd have guessed
>>> it had been by Julie Felix. Felix appeared to be, IMO, "the acceptable
>>> face of the American Folk movement" and always seemed to be on our
>>> television singing other people's songs.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>> I don't (knowingly) know Ms. Felix.
>>
>> Some people are good at singing others' songs - in the same way some are
>> better at writing lyrics to others' melodies. There are the obvious
>> pairings who did that from the start, like the Gershwins, and Rogers and
>> Hart/Hammerstein (and did Simon & Garfunkel mostly do that?), but there
>> are also cases where someone writes a melody which becomes known, and
>> then someone writes words that seem to fit it very well some time later;
>> lots of classical pieces (which in some cases make some people groan
>> when someone puts words to them), but sometimes others - Don Black comes
>> to mind as IMO a lyric writer whose words to other people's tunes work
>> better than those to his own tunes.
>>
>> I've come across some quite startling classical pieces that have been
>> "worded" - the Valse Minute by Richard Stilgoe and Barbra Streisand (not
>> both at once!), Mozart 40, Aranjuez, Brahms' lullaby (at least two
>> sets), Beethoven 9 (not his words). The one that I think I've seen more
>> purists wince at than any other is Saint-Saens' organ symphony (not
>> least because it is in one case sung to a pig, though that wasn't by
>> those who first put the words to it).
>>
>> The oddest I've come across to have words put to them are Chariots of
>> Fire, and the Luftwaffe March (a. k. a. Aces High) [Ron Goodwin]. That
>> last one had me puzzled for quite a while when I came across it sung, as
>> I knew the tune well but couldn't place it!
>
> “We’re going to the zoo” (and we can stay all day) was written and sung by
> her.
>
We used to substitute loo for zoo and incorporate another rhyming word.

Childhood? This was just last week!

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 by: Mike McMillan - Thu, 19 May 2022 08:03 UTC

Linda Fox <linda.ff@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 20:02:18, Nick Odell
>>> <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 19:27:01 +0100, steve hague
>>>> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> []
>>>>>> P. S. I've just remembered that the song title doesn't have "clouds" -
>>>>>> and I _do_ have an mp3 (and yes, by NM).
>>>>>
>>>>> NM? JM shirly.
>>>>
>>>> According to https://secondhandsongs.com/performance/2558 there are
>>>> 436 cover versions of Joni Mitchell's Both Sides Now and I'm guessing
>>>> - not entirely without evidence - that John has the Nana Mouskouri
>>>> version in mind.
>>>
>>> Correct; it suits he gentle style. (Not to say that it also doesn't suit
>>> some of the other 435!) Or rather her gentle style suits it. IMO of
>>> course.
>>>
>>> Unusually for Nana, I only have an English version ... (-: [Checking ...
>>> I see she does have a French version.]
>>>>
>>>> If I hadn't known that Joni Mitchell had written it, I'd have guessed
>>>> it had been by Julie Felix. Felix appeared to be, IMO, "the acceptable
>>>> face of the American Folk movement" and always seemed to be on our
>>>> television singing other people's songs.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>
>>> I don't (knowingly) know Ms. Felix.
>>>
>>> Some people are good at singing others' songs - in the same way some are
>>> better at writing lyrics to others' melodies. There are the obvious
>>> pairings who did that from the start, like the Gershwins, and Rogers and
>>> Hart/Hammerstein (and did Simon & Garfunkel mostly do that?), but there
>>> are also cases where someone writes a melody which becomes known, and
>>> then someone writes words that seem to fit it very well some time later;
>>> lots of classical pieces (which in some cases make some people groan
>>> when someone puts words to them), but sometimes others - Don Black comes
>>> to mind as IMO a lyric writer whose words to other people's tunes work
>>> better than those to his own tunes.
>>>
>>> I've come across some quite startling classical pieces that have been
>>> "worded" - the Valse Minute by Richard Stilgoe and Barbra Streisand (not
>>> both at once!), Mozart 40, Aranjuez, Brahms' lullaby (at least two
>>> sets), Beethoven 9 (not his words). The one that I think I've seen more
>>> purists wince at than any other is Saint-Saens' organ symphony (not
>>> least because it is in one case sung to a pig, though that wasn't by
>>> those who first put the words to it).
>>>
>>> The oddest I've come across to have words put to them are Chariots of
>>> Fire, and the Luftwaffe March (a. k. a. Aces High) [Ron Goodwin]. That
>>> last one had me puzzled for quite a while when I came across it sung, as
>>> I knew the tune well but couldn't place it!
>>
>> “We’re going to the zoo” (and we can stay all day) was written and sung by
>> her.
>>
> We used to substitute loo for zoo and incorporate another rhyming word.
>
> Childhood? This was just last week!
>

And returns next week too! ;-)))

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On Wed, 18 May 2022 19:43:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 18:56:44, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>On 17/05/2022 22:51, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>
>>> I've come across some quite startling classical pieces that have been
>>>"worded" - the Valse Minute by Richard Stilgoe and Barbra Streisand
>>>(not both at once!), Mozart 40, Aranjuez, Brahms' lullaby (at least
>>>two sets), Beethoven 9 (not his words). The one that I think I've
>>>seen more purists wince at than any other is Saint-Saens' organ
>>>symphony (not least because it is in one case sung to a pig, though
>>>that wasn't by those who first put the words to it).
>>
>>The best of all is the Mozart Horn Concerto
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHWnFJ4_61U
>>
>>
>That 0 "Ill Wind" - is indeed the classic such. To get into the hall of
>fame, they have to fit so well that you can't hear the tune without
>hearing the words. The one that comes closest IMO is indeed the
>above-mentioned Richard Stilgoe Minute Waltz; I can't hear it without
>hearing his words. Unfortunately I can't find it on YouTube; the single
>I have has it as the B side to Lilian Thompson; if I ever start
>uploading to YT, that'll be one of them. He does Chopin's life story -
>it starts "Chopin was born in Valazovy Vary" (or something like that)
>and ends "no-one can expect to be become bronzed and healthy -
>just/by lying/on/the Sands."
I can't find his Walz but did find this on you tube :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqJPfoetuss

RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.

I used to listen to his radio programmes and one was from the Boat
Show and he sung a song called Trying to Catch the Wind. I had that
show recorded on a cassette and SOME daughter recorded over it. This
was many years ago and I was never able to find the song anywhere and
eventually a few years ago wrote to Richard Stilgoe's website and
asked if there was a recording of the programme.

It had good jokes on it like 'Miscalculation of dates, Marina Birth'
:). He wrote back very kindly and sent me a link to download the show
and it had the song onit. Actually his secretary sent it. I was able
to keep the link and listen and then I got a new computer a year or so
ago and fancied hearing it but it was lost and I wrote to the
secretary and he wrote back, again very kindly, and they sent me the
link again.

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 by: steve hague - Thu, 19 May 2022 09:01 UTC

On 19/05/2022 07:36, Sid Nuncius wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 09:57, steve hague wrote:
>
>> I first heard JM on a juke box in a pub. It was her single
>> "Woodstock", so that dates it pretty closely. We bought all her albums
>> as soon as they were released untill the middle of her jazz period, at
>> which point we decided she'd lost her gift for melody, and her lyrics
>> weren't getting any better either. She was a great song writer for a
>> number of years.
>
> I did the same, but the jazz lost me.  She did make some fine albums
> later, though.  Night Ride Home and Turbulent Indigo are up there, I think.
>
> I agree about her songwriting. At her greatest she's almost unmatched, I
> think.  Blue is one of the very finest albums ever made, IMO.
>
Blue was her masterpiece I think. Ladies of the Canyon was superb too,
and her double live album "Miles of Isles" got plenty of turntable time
here. We don't have that album now, and if we did it would be of no use.
We don't have a turntable. Which album was "Cactus Tree" on?

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 19 May 2022 09:44 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:46:40 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 May 2022 19:43:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 18:56:44, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>On 17/05/2022 22:51, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've come across some quite startling classical pieces that have been
>>>>"worded" - the Valse Minute by Richard Stilgoe and Barbra Streisand
>>>>(not both at once!), Mozart 40, Aranjuez, Brahms' lullaby (at least
>>>>two sets), Beethoven 9 (not his words). The one that I think I've
>>>>seen more purists wince at than any other is Saint-Saens' organ
>>>>symphony (not least because it is in one case sung to a pig, though
>>>>that wasn't by those who first put the words to it).
>>>
>>>The best of all is the Mozart Horn Concerto
>>>
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHWnFJ4_61U
>>>
>>>
>>That 0 "Ill Wind" - is indeed the classic such. To get into the hall of
>>fame, they have to fit so well that you can't hear the tune without
>>hearing the words. The one that comes closest IMO is indeed the
>>above-mentioned Richard Stilgoe Minute Waltz; I can't hear it without
>>hearing his words. Unfortunately I can't find it on YouTube; the single
>>I have has it as the B side to Lilian Thompson; if I ever start
>>uploading to YT, that'll be one of them. He does Chopin's life story -
>>it starts "Chopin was born in Valazovy Vary" (or something like that)
>>and ends "no-one can expect to be become bronzed and healthy -
>>just/by lying/on/the Sands."
>I can't find his Walz but did find this on you tube :)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqJPfoetuss
>
>RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
>
>I used to listen to his radio programmes and one was from the Boat
>Show and he sung a song called Trying to Catch the Wind. I had that
>show recorded on a cassette and SOME daughter recorded over it. This
>was many years ago and I was never able to find the song anywhere and
>eventually a few years ago wrote to Richard Stilgoe's website and
>asked if there was a recording of the programme.
>
> It had good jokes on it like 'Miscalculation of dates, Marina Birth'
>:). He wrote back very kindly and sent me a link to download the show
>and it had the song onit. Actually his secretary sent it. I was able
>to keep the link and listen and then I got a new computer a year or so
>ago and fancied hearing it but it was lost and I wrote to the
>secretary and he wrote back, again very kindly, and they sent me the
>link again.

I was going to insert my "Richard Stilgoe? I don't think he's still
composing" joke at this point. Then I discovered that he still is.
Composing, that is.

Nick

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Thu, 19 May 2022 10:40 UTC

On 19/05/2022 09:46, Vicky wrote:
> RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.

Sadly, the correct verb is "was".

--
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Wrexham, UK

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 by: Vicky - Thu, 19 May 2022 10:48 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 11:40:19 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 19/05/2022 09:46, Vicky wrote:
>> RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
>
>Sadly, the correct verb is "was".

Oh dear. I can't find a record of this in google or Alexa.

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Thu, 19 May 2022 11:04 UTC

On 19/05/2022 11:48, Vicky wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 11:40:19 +0100, Jenny M Benson
> <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 19/05/2022 09:46, Vicky wrote:
>>> RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
>> Sadly, the correct verb is "was".
> Oh dear. I can't find a record of this in google or Alexa.

Sorry - my forgettery in full play again. It was Peter Skellern who died.

I have fond memories of Umrat Bob Archer & I seeing Richard & Peter
perform in Bury St Edmunds some years ago.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 19 May 2022 11:12 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 at 07:36:26, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 18/05/2022 09:57, steve hague wrote:
[]
>>albums as soon as they were released untill the middle of her jazz
[]
>I did the same, but the jazz lost me. She did make some fine albums
[]
Jazz, like opera (soprano at least), is - well, I was going to say an
acquired taste, but at 62 I don't think I'm ever going to acquire it
(them). I don't deny the skill of those able to improvise - it just
doesn't appeal to me. A lot of singers/performers I really like, except
for their jazz period - Judith Durham for example. (I do like what's
sometimes said to be its predecessor, ragtime.) As for soprano opera, I
really wish I _did_ like it, as many of its proponents seem to be really
nice people - dame Kiri, for example, and Lesley Garrett (who comes
closest to what I can enjoy; I like some of her work with the
Schmutzdorfers). It's just a _sound_ I find unpleasant at its most
forceful [which seems to be where it's supposed to be at its best].
(Male opera I like if it's a good tune, though it's the tune rather than
specifically the sound I enjoy - though a good Nessun Dorma or similar I
can enjoy with everyone else.)

But we're all different (cue from Life of Brian, "we're all
individuals!" shouted in unison): I'm pleased other people _can_ enjoy
these forms; on the whole, I like anyone enjoying something, as long as
it's not hurting anyone else.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 at 10:44:52, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:46:40 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 May 2022 19:43:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 18:56:44, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
[]
>>>>The best of all is the Mozart Horn Concerto
>>>>
>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHWnFJ4_61U
>>>>
>>>>
>>>That 0 "Ill Wind" - is indeed the classic such. To get into the hall of
>>>fame, they have to fit so well that you can't hear the tune without
>>>hearing the words. The one that comes closest IMO is indeed the
>>>above-mentioned Richard Stilgoe Minute Waltz; I can't hear it without
[]
>>I can't find his Walz but did find this on you tube :)
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqJPfoetuss

Thanks for that; they definitely captured the Stilgoe/Skellern feel.

You might enjoy a full concert of theirs I found, "Rambling On...":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Vc0lOV6Iw - worth going back to and
watching in bits, they're a real delight. I had been looking for where
they jump-start a second-hand piano from a good one - I'd thought a full
concert must include it, but no. (It's on their "Who Plays Wins" album,
but of course that's audio only, and you really need to see what they're
doing.) I did see it on TV, so it must exist in some vault somewhere
(sudden thought - I hope it wasn't in the era when the BBC, in
particular, re-used videotape).
>>
>>RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.

That doesn't surprise me at all; he always seemed like he would be.
[]
>>eventually a few years ago wrote to Richard Stilgoe's website and
>>asked if there was a recording of the programme.

Some people in showbiz _are_ nice like that; I treasured for a long time
(I fear I don't know where it is now) a letter I had back from Fritz
Spiegl about - I think it was - the Radio 4 UK theme; and someone
associated with the Huddersfield Choral Society actually sent me a DVD
of the concert I'd remembered from their 150th anniversary that included
a medley of commercials ("Cook, Cook, Cookability, that's the beauty of
gas", and "hands that do dishes can be soft as your face" have a whole
different feel when arranged for and delivered by such a group!) that I
hadn't been able to find anywhere. (Feeling of age: they'll be
celebrating their 200th soon! [I do hope they repeat - or update - that
part.])
[]
>I was going to insert my "Richard Stilgoe? I don't think he's still
>composing" joke at this point. Then I discovered that he still is.
>Composing, that is.
>
>Nick

I was sad to hear - if I understand other posts in this thread correctly
- that he's joined those other composers in the Monty Python track. I
hadn't known either.
--
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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 19 May 2022 11:37 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 at 12:04:43, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 19/05/2022 11:48, Vicky wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 11:40:19 +0100, Jenny M Benson
>> <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/05/2022 09:46, Vicky wrote:
>>>> RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
>>> Sadly, the correct verb is "was".
>> Oh dear. I can't find a record of this in google or Alexa.
>
>Sorry - my forgettery in full play again. It was Peter Skellern who died.
>
>I have fond memories of Umrat Bob Archer & I seeing Richard & Peter
>perform in Bury St Edmunds some years ago.
>
Oh, wonderful! Ignore the end of my last (the long rambling one, as mine
tend to be) post.

Not wonderful that Peter Skellern is dead, of course.
(I gathered from some of the comments to some of the YouTube clips I
found that PS was a Rev..)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 19 May 2022 12:47 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:34:01 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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<snip>
>I was sad to hear - if I understand other posts in this thread correctly
>- that he's joined those other composers in the Monty Python track. I
>hadn't known either.

You've lost me there, John.

I was going to use the well-worn "Still composing? No. He's been
decomposing for years" gag but thought I ought to check. It seems he's
alive and well and still.. ...composing.

Nick

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 by: Jim Easterbrook - Thu, 19 May 2022 12:50 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:37:14 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

> Not wonderful that Peter Skellern is dead, of course.
> (I gathered from some of the comments to some of the YouTube clips I
> found that PS was a Rev..)

He became ordained later on in life, after his pop career was over.

KF by proxy: other half was one of Skellern's backing singers on You're a
Lady, which is how she came to be on TOTP. This has caused her to burst
into song in both a Belgian supermarket and a French hotel breakfast room
when YaL was played as background music.
--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 19 May 2022 14:20 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 at 13:47:55, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:34:01 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
><snip>
>>I was sad to hear - if I understand other posts in this thread correctly
>>- that he's joined those other composers in the Monty Python track. I
>>hadn't known either.
>
>You've lost me there, John.
>
>I was going to use the well-worn "Still composing? No. He's been
>decomposing for years" gag but thought I ought to check. It seems he's

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQOaK8Mv6E - warning, the usual Python
tastelessness - actually making the above joke, but rather well (and
with a moderately memorable tune, or at least chorus).

>alive and well and still.. ...composing.
>
>Nick

(As others have said, whicheverrat said it first got it wrong - it's the
Rev. Skellern who is no longer with us.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder...

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 by: Penny - Thu, 19 May 2022 14:25 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:46:40 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
in the dust...

>RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.

He is, indeed. I saw him several times when he was touring with
Peter Skellern, and I have some CDs.

>I used to listen to his radio programmes and one was from the Boat
>Show and he sung a song called Trying to Catch the Wind. I had that
>show recorded on a cassette and SOME daughter recorded over it. This
>was many years ago and I was never able to find the song anywhere and
>eventually a few years ago wrote to Richard Stilgoe's website and
>asked if there was a recording of the programme.

I don't think I heard those. There was a series called 'Stilgoes Around',
and I did find the episode list
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009sn7r/episodes/guide>
but none is available now. Even though you can click through to
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ty334>

Maybe 4Extra will broadcast them again one day...

> It had good jokes on it like 'Miscalculation of dates, Marina Birth'
>:). He wrote back very kindly and sent me a link to download the show
>and it had the song onit. Actually his secretary sent it. I was able
>to keep the link and listen and then I got a new computer a year or so
>ago and fancied hearing it but it was lost and I wrote to the
>secretary and he wrote back, again very kindly, and they sent me the
>link again.

Do you still have it?
This page
<https://www.comedy.co.uk/radio/stilgoes_around/shop/7098/complete-series/>
suggests you can get them all from Audible if you sign up for a free trial.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 19 May 2022 14:42 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 at 15:25:49, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote
(my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:46:40 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
>in the dust...
>
>>RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
[]
>I don't think I heard those. There was a series called 'Stilgoes Around',
>and I did find the episode list
><https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009sn7r/episodes/guide>
>but none is available now. Even though you can click through to
><https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ty334>
>
>Maybe 4Extra will broadcast them again one day...

I have a couple of episodes - my filenames are "Christie's [cello; Henry
Moore moth]" and "Health Farm [house of (credit) cards; Henry Moore
moth]", which I could send (would have to reduce the quality to email -
I've probably got them at too high a quality for just speech anyway), or
just "cello" on its own. (The filenames suggest they include some of the
same sketches.) They feature Brian's best friend, or some do.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder...

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 19 May 2022 15:41 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 15:25:49 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:46:40 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
>in the dust...
>
>>RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
>
>He is, indeed. I saw him several times when he was touring with
>Peter Skellern, and I have some CDs.
>
>>I used to listen to his radio programmes and one was from the Boat
>>Show and he sung a song called Trying to Catch the Wind. I had that
>>show recorded on a cassette and SOME daughter recorded over it. This
>>was many years ago and I was never able to find the song anywhere and
>>eventually a few years ago wrote to Richard Stilgoe's website and
>>asked if there was a recording of the programme.
>
>I don't think I heard those. There was a series called 'Stilgoes Around',
>and I did find the episode list
><https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009sn7r/episodes/guide>
>but none is available now. Even though you can click through to
><https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ty334>
>
>Maybe 4Extra will broadcast them again one day...
>
>> It had good jokes on it like 'Miscalculation of dates, Marina Birth'
>>:). He wrote back very kindly and sent me a link to download the show
>>and it had the song onit. Actually his secretary sent it. I was able
>>to keep the link and listen and then I got a new computer a year or so
>>ago and fancied hearing it but it was lost and I wrote to the
>>secretary and he wrote back, again very kindly, and they sent me the
>>link again.
>
>Do you still have it?
>This page
><https://www.comedy.co.uk/radio/stilgoes_around/shop/7098/complete-series/>
>suggests you can get them all from Audible if you sign up for a free trial.

There are three episodes here:

<https://www.radioechoes.com/?page=series&genre=OTR-Comedy&series=Stilgoes%20Around>

I tested one at random and it seemed to work.

Nick

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 by: Vicky - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:00 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 15:25:49 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:46:40 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
>in the dust...
>
>>RIchard Stiligoe is officially a lovely person.
>
>He is, indeed. I saw him several times when he was touring with
>Peter Skellern, and I have some CDs.
>
>>I used to listen to his radio programmes and one was from the Boat
>>Show and he sung a song called Trying to Catch the Wind. I had that
>>show recorded on a cassette and SOME daughter recorded over it. This
>>was many years ago and I was never able to find the song anywhere and
>>eventually a few years ago wrote to Richard Stilgoe's website and
>>asked if there was a recording of the programme.
>
>I don't think I heard those. There was a series called 'Stilgoes Around',
>and I did find the episode list
><https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009sn7r/episodes/guide>
>but none is available now. Even though you can click through to
><https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ty334>
>
>Maybe 4Extra will broadcast them again one day...
>
>> It had good jokes on it like 'Miscalculation of dates, Marina Birth'
>>:). He wrote back very kindly and sent me a link to download the show
>>and it had the song onit. Actually his secretary sent it. I was able
>>to keep the link and listen and then I got a new computer a year or so
>>ago and fancied hearing it but it was lost and I wrote to the
>>secretary and he wrote back, again very kindly, and they sent me the
>>link again.
>
>Do you still have it?
>This page
><https://www.comedy.co.uk/radio/stilgoes_around/shop/7098/complete-series/>
>suggests you can get them all from Audible if you sign up for a free trial.
My link no longer works, maybe because they are on sale?

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