On 23/03/2022 12:44, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 10:50, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>>
>> Ah yes, the Wonderful World of Cabling Ambiguity!
>> (WWoCA?)
>>
>> ... where for generations we have had male sockets and female plugs!
>> (For those not in the know, if it has pins it is a plug and v.v. for
>> sockets. Similarly, if one body part goes inside another (!) it is
>> male into female - all perfectly logical until you see some fleabay
>> listings)
>
> Unless you make or sell XLR connectors, where a male has pins and can be
> a socket.
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mpr-hd/xlr-male-socket-3p-panel/dp/AV15762

FFS

> Or maybe it could be an ungendered plug.
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mdl1/neutrik-xlr-panel-plug-3-way/dp/CN07178

Not quite so bad :-)

> I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
> and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
> male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
> mounting.

Experzactly!

And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
> the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.

I never knew that - but judging by some of the responses to this
comment, maybe I need to not remember this?

Chris

ChrisND@privacy.net said:
> On 23/03/2022 12:44, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 23/03/2022 10:50, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>>>
>>> Ah yes, the Wonderful World of Cabling Ambiguity!
>>> (WWoCA?)
>>>
>>> ... where for generations we have had male sockets and female plugs!
>>> (For those not in the know, if it has pins it is a plug and v.v. for
>>> sockets. Similarly, if one body part goes inside another (!) it is
>>> male into female - all perfectly logical until you see some fleabay
>>> listings)
>>
>> Unless you make or sell XLR connectors, where a male has pins and can be
>> a socket.
>>
>> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mpr-hd/xlr-male-socket-3p-panel/dp/AV15762
>
> FFS
>
>> Or maybe it could be an ungendered plug.
>>
>> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mdl1/neutrik-xlr-panel-plug-3-way/dp/CN07178
>
> Not quite so bad :-)
>
>> I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
>> and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
>> male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
>> mounting.
>
> Experzactly!
>
> And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
>> the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.
>
> I never knew that - but judging by some of the responses to this
> comment, maybe I need to not remember this?

It depends on whether you need to use XLRs ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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On 23-Mar-22 12:44, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 10:50, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>>
>> Ah yes, the Wonderful World of Cabling Ambiguity!
>> (WWoCA?)
>>
>> ... where for generations we have had male sockets and female plugs!
>> (For those not in the know, if it has pins it is a plug and v.v. for
>> sockets. Similarly, if one body part goes inside another (!) it is
>> male into female - all perfectly logical until you see some fleabay
>> listings)
>
> Unless you make or sell XLR connectors, where a male has pins and can be
> a socket.
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mpr-hd/xlr-male-socket-3p-panel/dp/AV15762
>
>
> Or maybe it could be an ungendered plug.
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mdl1/neutrik-xlr-panel-plug-3-way/dp/CN07178
>
>
> I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
> and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
> male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
> mounting. And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
> the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.

Cal the bliddy thing a "Plocket" and have done with the whole sorry mess.

(I recall connectors which contained both 'pins' and 'sockets' within
the same connector body.)

--
Sam Plusnet

On 23/03/2022 12:51, John Williamson wrote:
> On 23/03/2022 12:44, Mike Fleming wrote:
>
>> I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
>> and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
>> male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
>> mounting. And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
>> the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.
>
> Que? The pins are on the microphone and the holes are on the amplifiers
> here, so the pins point against the signal flow in the same way as a
> mains plug works. (Except that phantom power goes the other way.)

What? The signal flows from your amp into the microphones? There's
novel. The microphone sitting on my desk has pins which definitely point
in the direction that the signal goes (ie. towards the amp).

> XLR pins are, however, inside a shrouded connector "plug", and the holes
> are set into an otherwise flush end of the "socket"

Correct. Unless it's a chassis bit with pins (output from an amp - pins
pointing outwards so it's output) like my examples.

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:

> And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that the pins point
> in the direction of the signal flow.
>
They don't in mains connected ones. we hfrd them at jbex before IEC ones
were common.

--
Braind

On 30/03/2022 00:08, Brian D wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that the pins point
>> in the direction of the signal flow.
>>
> They don't in mains connected ones. we hfrd them at jbex before IEC ones
> were common.

Seems an incredibly dangerous thing to do, especially as Bulgin
connectors were around before IEC.