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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:35 UTC

UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

A FARMER who was involved in a bust-up with a cyclist has been fined £1,000 at Jedburgh Sheriff Court.

Michael Dagg, 58, from Kelso, pleaded guilty to a charge of careless driving and threatening or abusive behaviour on the B6461 Ednam to Eccles road on September 3.

Fiona Hamilton, prosecuting, said the potato supplier was driving a lorry at around 6.25pm and came up behind a bicycle being ridden by Jason Holland.

The lorry pulled out to overtake but was confronted with a red Mercedes coming in the opposite direction which had to take evasive action.

Dagg then continued to sound his horn at the cyclist and flashing his hazard lights and then shouted abuse at him.

Defence lawyer Mat Patrick said his client was "appalled" to be in court for the first time at 58 years old.

Sheriff Peter Paterson said Dagg had "made a misjudgement" when overtaking.

He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.

Dagg was also fined £400 for threatening or abusive behaviour with a £40 Victim Surcharge also imposed.

https://www.bordertelegraph.com/news/20080447.kelso-farmer-involved-bust-up-cyclist-borders-road/

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 by: Spike - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 14:24 UTC

On 20/04/2022 13:35, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

IT COULD BE WORSE

HE COULD BE A NUTTER TOSSER CYCLIST

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

> Dagg then continued to sound his horn at the cyclist and flashing his hazard lights and then shouted abuse at him.

Idiot driver - what on earth would putting your hazard lights on when in motion do?
Or shouting abuse? Utter nutter.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 08:12 UTC

On 20/04/2022 15:41, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>> Dagg then continued to sound his horn at the cyclist and flashing his hazard lights and then shouted abuse at him.

> Idiot driver - what on earth would putting your hazard lights on when in motion do?
> Or shouting abuse? Utter nutter.

Like was shown in the cyclist's video in the recent court case, he could
have just waved a V-sign.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:58 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>
> He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.
>
> Dagg was also fined £400 for threatening or abusive behaviour with a £40 Victim Surcharge also imposed.

What was "careless" about shouting abuse? It was deliberate.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:13 UTC

On 21/04/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>> He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.

>> Dagg was also fined £400 for threatening or abusive behaviour with a £40 Victim Surcharge also imposed.

> What was "careless" about shouting abuse? It was deliberate.

The words 'also fined' dictate that the 'careless' fine was separate
from the 'abusive behaviour' fine, no matter how you might wish it
otherwise.

UTTER TOSSER READER AGAIN

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:14 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.
>
> A FARMER who was involved in a bust-up with a cyclist has been fined £1,000 at Jedburgh Sheriff Court.

He won't be beeping his horn and shouting abuse at cyclists in a hurry again with that fine.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:18 UTC

On 21/04/2022 10:14, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>> A FARMER who was involved in a bust-up with a cyclist has been fined £1,000 at Jedburgh Sheriff Court.

> He won't be beeping his horn and shouting abuse at cyclists in a hurry again with that fine.

And, as a Swedish DOCTOR might have said, "We can't point to a single
person that fines have saved".

--
Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:21 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>
> He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.

A couple of speeding charges and a mobile phone rap and he'll be banned.

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Subject: Re: Kelso farmer involved in bust-up with cyclist on Borders road
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:25:33 +0000
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 by: Spike - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:25 UTC

On 21/04/2022 10:21, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>> He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.

> A couple of speeding charges and a mobile phone rap and he'll be banned.

Please point to a single person that banning has saved.

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Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:27 UTC

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:21:02 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.
>
> >
> > He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.
> A couple of speeding charges and a mobile phone rap and he'll be banned.

Unless he gets one of those useless judges that allows him to rack up >12 points.

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From: Aero.Sp...@mail.invalid (Spike)
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Subject: Re: Kelso farmer involved in bust-up with cyclist on Borders road
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:32:37 +0000
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 by: Spike - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:32 UTC

On 21/04/2022 10:27, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:21:02 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>>> He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.
>> A couple of speeding charges and a mobile phone rap and he'll be banned.

> Unless he gets one of those useless judges that allows him to rack up >12 points.

Unfortunately no-one can point to anyone that was saved by such an action.

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From: jennings...@fastmail.fm (JNugent)
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Subject: Re: Kelso farmer involved in bust-up with cyclist on Borders road
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 by: JNugent - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 12:31 UTC

On 21/04/2022 11:25 am, Spike wrote:
> On 21/04/2022 10:21, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.
>
>>> He fined him £600 for careless driving and imposed five penalty points on his licence.
>
>> A couple of speeding charges and a mobile phone rap and he'll be banned.
>
> Please point to a single person that banning has saved.

Indeed.

All that disqualification does is turn the driver into a filly-qualified
fairy-cyclist. And as a class, they are frequently caught "driving"
motor vehicles, but without a licence and without insurance.

No change there.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 13:46 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.
> Michael Dagg, 58, from Kelso, pleaded guilty to a charge threatening or abusive behaviour on the B6461 Ednam to Eccles road on September 3.

Why are these drivers so angry that they have to verbally abuse innocent members of the public that are complete strangers to them? Weird or what?

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 by: Spike - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:49 UTC

On 21/04/2022 13:46, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>> Michael Dagg, 58, from Kelso, pleaded guilty to a charge threatening or abusive behaviour on the B6461 Ednam to Eccles road on September 3.

> Why are these drivers so angry that they have to verbally abuse innocent members of the public that are complete strangers to them? Weird or what?

Like the angry cyclist that V-signed a complete stranger in a Land Rover
that gave him as much room as he could? That sort of angry, you mean?
Weird or what?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:01 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:35:12 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> UTTER TOSSER DRIVER AGAIN.

>
> Dagg then continued flash his hazard lights.

What on earth for? Does he imagine that the cyclist had eyes in the back of his head or something?
Barking mad.

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