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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 13:49 UTC

Decent sentence.

A man who stabbed a cyclist and left him with life-threatening injuries has been jailed.

The victim was cycling along Third Avenue, Harlow, having left the town centre on July 22, 2019, when he came across a group of men arguing with another man.

Liam Lincoln, the attacker, turned to the cyclist after the other man ran away and stabbed the victim in the stomach unprovoked.

Lincoln and the two men he was with ran off, leaving the victim bleeding.

Later on a passer-by found the victim and flagged down a passing ambulance.

Police searched Lincoln’s home the following day but could not find him, but eventually CCTV traced him staying at an address with the same group.

The 23-year-old, of Red Willow, Harlow, later presented himself to Harlow Police Station and was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.

He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020.

On Friday this year (April 22) he received a total of seven years and nine months in prison.

Investigating officer Detective Constable Anne-Marie Hardingham said: “Liam Lincoln has never said why he attacked his victim, and he has not faced up to what he did that day.

“He left a man so badly injured he needed weeks in hospital to recover.

“Hopefully, the victim can put this behind him now that Liam Lincoln is rightly behind bars.”

https://www.eppingforestguardian.co.uk/news/20089082.harlow-man-jailed-stabbing-cyclist/

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 by: Spike - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 13:57 UTC

On 23/04/2022 13:49, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Decent sentence.

Yes, we need such sentences imposed on cyclists who kill, rather than 18
months in a soft 'young offenders institute', or a £2000 fine.

> <https://www.eppingforestguardian.co.uk/news/20089082.harlow-man-jailed-stabbing-cyclist/>

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On Friday this year (April 22) he received a total of seven years and nine months in prison. ENDS

Not bad for a non fatal attack - more like this please.
Especially for dangerous drivers.

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> QUOTE:

> On Friday this year (April 22) he received a total of seven years and nine months in prison.
> END

> Not bad for a non fatal attack - more like this please.
Especially for dangerous cyclists..

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 14:10 UTC

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QUOTE: “Hopefully, the victim can put this behind him now that Liam Lincoln is rightly behind bars.” ENDS

Unlike the families of cyclists slaughtered by idiot drivers to the tune of one death every 3 days.
Most get away scot free.

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 by: Spike - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 14:14 UTC

On 23/04/2022 14:10, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> QUOTE: “Hopefully, the victim can put this behind him now that Liam Lincoln is rightly behind bars.” ENDS

> Unlike the families of cyclists slaughtered by idiot drivers to the tune of one death every 3 days.
> Most get away scot free.

Cite?

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CCTV again - do they never learn?

QUOTE: Police searched Lincoln’s home the following day but could not find him, but eventually CCTV traced him staying at an address with the same group. ENDS

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> QUOTE: “Hopefully, the victim can put this behind him now that Liam Lincoln is rightly behind bars.” ENDS
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> Unlike the families of cyclists slaughtered by idiot drivers to the tune of one death every 3 days.
> Most get away scot free.

Why *shouldn't* the families "get away scot free" [sic]?

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QUOTE: “Liam Lincoln has never said why he attacked his victim, and he has not faced up to what he did that day. ENDS

JAIL IS OBVIOUSLY THE BEST PLACE FOR THIS NUTTER THEN.

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 by: JNugent - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 14:35 UTC

On 23/04/2022 03:23 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> QUOTE: “Liam Lincoln has never said why he attacked his victim, and he has not faced up to what he did that day. ENDS
>
> JAIL IS OBVIOUSLY THE BEST PLACE FOR THIS NUTTER THEN.

Surely it might have been a case of mistaken identity and he thought it
was a different person on the bike?

You wouldn't expect him to say so if it were the reason for the attack.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 14:36 UTC

QUOTE: The 23-year-old, of Red Willow, Harlow, later presented himself to Harlow Police Station and was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.

He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020. ENDS

WHY DID HE HAND HIMSELF IN THEN?

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 by: JNugent - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 16:17 UTC

On 23/04/2022 03:36 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> QUOTE: The 23-year-old, of Red Willow, Harlow, later presented himself to Harlow Police Station and was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.
>
> He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020. ENDS
>
> WHY DID HE HAND HIMSELF IN THEN?

Have you asked him?

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QUOTE: Lincoln and the two men he was with ran off, leaving the victim bleeding. ENDS

Why weren't these "two men" charged with being accomplices?
Something smells fishy.

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 by: JNugent - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 19:22 UTC

On 23/04/2022 07:11 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> QUOTE: Lincoln and the two men he was with ran off, leaving the victim bleeding. ENDS
>
> Why weren't these "two men" charged with being accomplices?

The usual reason for not charging a citizen with a criminal offence is
that there isn't any, or perhaps enough, evidence that he has committed one.

> Something smells fishy.

How close are you to Grimsby?

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QUOTE: On Friday this year (April 22) he received a total of seven years and nine months in prison. ENDS

Out in 2030 then - net zero year with no ICE cars for sale.
He'll need a bike when he gets out - oh the irony.

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 by: JNugent - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 19:37 UTC

On 23/04/2022 08:30 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> QUOTE: On Friday this year (April 22) he received a total of seven years and nine months in prison. ENDS
>
> Out in 2030 then - net zero year with no ICE cars for sale...

....except for the hundreds of thousands of secondhand vehicles which
will be available.

> He'll need a bike when he gets out - oh the irony.

There can be little doubt of it: you are quite round the twist.

Have you formulated your new idea for the circus fairy-trike which can
be used to ferry dead bodies yet? That would remove the need for
"private ambulances" to get in the way. Not that anyone sane objects to
undertakers getting on with their work. But you do.

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>
> He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020.

Silly fool - with a tame judge he would have got a far more lenient term if he had pleaded guilty from the very start.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:57 UTC

On 23/04/2022 14:36, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> QUOTE: The 23-year-old, of Red Willow, Harlow, later presented himself to Harlow Police Station and was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.

> He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020. ENDS

> WHY DID HE HAND HIMSELF IN THEN?

CYCLISTS DONT HAND THEMSELVES IN WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE

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 by: Spike - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:58 UTC

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> QUOTE: Lincoln and the two men he was with ran off, leaving the victim bleeding. ENDS

> Why weren't these "two men" charged with being accomplices?
> Something smells fishy.

Phone the OIC of the case and ask them, you moron.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:59 UTC

On 23/04/2022 19:43, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020.

> Silly fool - with a tame judge he would have got a far more lenient term if he had pleaded guilty from the very start.

Your confidence in the law is matched only by your knowledge of it.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 10:27 UTC

On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 2:49:34 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Decent sentence.

>
> “He left a man so badly injured he needed weeks in hospital to recover.

Not too bad if you are on full pay like I was in 2013. :-)

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 10:47 UTC

On 24/04/2022 09:57 am, Spike wrote:

> On 23/04/2022 14:36, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> QUOTE: The 23-year-old, of Red Willow, Harlow, later presented himself to Harlow Police Station and was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.

>> He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020. ENDS

>> WHY DID HE HAND HIMSELF IN THEN?

> CYCLISTS DONT HAND THEMSELVES IN WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE

I think the reports are that the person convicted of the stabbing did in
fact hand himself in and did admit the crime (of causing GBH to a
passing cyclist who had stopped).

I still say that the most likely underlying reason is that he mistook
the cyclist for a different cyclist, but cannot admit to that.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 10:48 UTC

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 11:27:45 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 2:49:34 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Decent sentence.
> >
> > “He left a man so badly injured he needed weeks in hospital to recover.
> Not too bad if you are on full pay like I was in 2013. :-)

For a whole year as well!

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 11:02 UTC

On 24/04/2022 11:48 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 11:27:45 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Talking to hmself...

>> On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 2:49:34 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Talking to himself...

>>> Decent sentence.
>
>>> “He left a man so badly injured he needed weeks in hospital to recover.

>> Not too bad if you are on full pay like I was in 2013. :-)

> For a whole year as well!

Almost worth jumping off a bridge?

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 by: Spike - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 11:02 UTC

On 24/04/2022 10:47, JNugent wrote:
> On 24/04/2022 09:57 am, Spike wrote:
>> On 23/04/2022 14:36, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> QUOTE: The 23-year-old, of Red Willow, Harlow, later presented himself to Harlow Police Station and was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.

>>> He pleaded not guilty at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court on August 19, 2020. ENDS

>>> WHY DID HE HAND HIMSELF IN THEN?

>> CYCLISTS DONT HAND THEMSELVES IN WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE

> I think the reports are that the person convicted of the stabbing did in
> fact hand himself in and did admit the crime (of causing GBH to a
> passing cyclist who had stopped).

> I still say that the most likely underlying reason is that he mistook
> the cyclist for a different cyclist, but cannot admit to that.

He might have taken legal advice, and found that this course of action
had the least worst outcome for him.

--
Spike

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