On 04/04/2022 11:12, soup wrote:
> On 03/04/2022 20:01, Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
>> Do the British have the same set up where green means go and red means
>> stop?
> Yes we do, but we have a third light between these two states
> (amber/yellow). It means the lights are about to change .
>
> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
> before the lights go red.
>
> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .

There is of course the 'flashing amber' at pedestrain crossings - which
means you 'may proceed if there is no one (left) on the crossing'.

Previously (briefly - about a year?) there was a situation where "White
'X' means go!" on such crossings.
My father proclaimed it 'Bloody stupid" and "Why not just use green?"
And so it came to pass...

Chris

On 04/04/2022 13:47, Tone wrote:
> On 04/04/2022 13:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:12:16 +0100
>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
>>> before the lights go red.
>>>
>>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
>>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
>>
>> Green: Accelerate (it might change)
>> Amber: Accelerate hard (it will change)
>> Amber/Red: Cruise (you might get green)
>> Red: Accelerate (pay particular attention to steering)
>>
>
> For York cyclists -
>
> Red Ignore
> Red & Amber Ignore
> Green Ignore
> Amber Ignore

Shurely that should be:
> Red Ignore
> Red & Amber Ignore
> Green Irrelevant
> Amber Ignore
? Chris

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:47:26 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

>On 04/04/2022 13:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:12:16 +0100
>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
>>> before the lights go red.
>>>
>>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
>>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
>>
>> Green: Accelerate (it might change)
>> Amber: Accelerate hard (it will change)
>> Amber/Red: Cruise (you might get green)
>> Red: Accelerate (pay particular attention to steering)
>>
>
>For York cyclists -
>
>Red Ignore
>Red & Amber Ignore
>Green Ignore
>Amber Ignore
>
Sorry. I don't believe that.
How can they possibly see what the lights say when they are coming the
wrong way down that one-way street?

Nick

On 2022-04-04, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:47:26 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Red Ignore
>>Red & Amber Ignore
>>Green Ignore
>>Amber Ignore
>>
> Sorry. I don't believe that.
> How can they possibly see what the lights say when they are coming the
> wrong way down that one-way street?
>
> Nick

My personal hate is cyclists who have their earplugs in while cycling
along. Most modern cyclists are self-admiring pains. Older people sit on
their bikes in an upright stance, which, AFAIRemember the norm in the
Netherlands.

--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:50:00 +0100, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:

> On 04/04/2022 11:12, soup wrote:
>> On 03/04/2022 20:01, Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>
>>> Do the British have the same set up where green means go and red means
>>> stop?
>> Yes we do, but we have a third light between these two states
>> (amber/yellow). It means the lights are about to change .
>>
>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
>> before the lights go red.
>>
>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
>
> There is of course the 'flashing amber' at pedestrain crossings - which
> means you 'may proceed if there is no one (left) on the crossing'.
>
> Previously (briefly - about a year?) there was a situation where "White
> 'X' means go!" on such crossings.
> My father proclaimed it 'Bloody stupid" and "Why not just use green?"
> And so it came to pass...
>
> Chris

Never understood why you/me/we should wsit for the redlight to go out when
a) everybody has crossed and/or b)m the bstd who pressed the button and
crossed long before we got there.
--
Jim S

On 4 Apr 2022 16:29:08 GMT
maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

> My personal hate is cyclists who have their earplugs in while cycling
> along. Most modern cyclists are self-admiring pains.

A few days ago passed an adult cyclist dressed in lurid lycra on an
obviously very expensive bike - I had to wait and give them the whole lane
because they were wobbling horribly every time their head turned and
wavering across the lane anyway. Shortly afterwards I passed a child of
about 6 on a bicycle in normal clothes (apart from the helmet), I gave them
the lane as well but I could have passed safely without crossing the line.
The child was rock solid stable even while looking and while signalling
(something the adults in lycra *never* do IME) and following the left side
of the road at about a foot from the kerb with not the slightest weave.

The child was cycling properly as I was taught and tested on as a
child before I was allowed to cycle to school.

Bring back the cycling proficiency test.

> Older people sit on
> their bikes in an upright stance, which, AFAIRemember the norm in the
> Netherlands.

Traditional Dutch bikes pretty much force it.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 04-Apr-22 4:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is already named but I forgot what the name is and that's the
>> shortest interval of time is the time between when the light turns green
>> and the person in back of you honks.
>
> New York Second.
>
Bristol First?

--
Sam Plusnet

On 04/04/2022 19:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 04-Apr-22 4:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT)
>> Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is already named but I forgot what the name is and that's the
>>> shortest interval of time is the time between when the light turns green
>>> and the  person in back of you honks.
>>
>>     New YorkSecond.
>>
> Bristol First?

Bristols usually come in pairs.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 20:23:59 +0100
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 04/04/2022 19:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> > On 04-Apr-22 4:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT)
> >> Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is already named but I forgot what the name is and that's the
> >>> shortest interval of time is the time between when the light turns
> >>> green and the  person in back of you honks.
> >>
> >>     New YorkSecond.
> >>
> > Bristol First?
>
> Bristols usually come in pairs.

It's the fashion.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 15:38:20 +0100
Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:47:26 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
> >On 04/04/2022 13:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:12:16 +0100
> >> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
> >>> before the lights go red.
> >>>
> >>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
> >>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
> >>
> >> Green: Accelerate (it might change)
> >> Amber: Accelerate hard (it will change)
> >> Amber/Red: Cruise (you might get green)
> >> Red: Accelerate (pay particular attention to steering)
> >>
> >
> >For York cyclists -
> >
> >Red Ignore
> >Red & Amber Ignore
> >Green Ignore
> >Amber Ignore
> >
> Sorry. I don't believe that.
> How can they possibly see what the lights say when they are coming the
> wrong way down that one-way street?
>
> Nick

I feel I ought to speak up for sensible cyclists here, as I consider myself to be one. (Some) car drivers get incensed at cyclists because they are stuck in traffic whilst the cyclist gets there before them, so fell need to blanket condemn all cyclists with the minor offense of some, and not look at the danger they themselves pose to other road users. Enough?

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 22:16:35 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 15:38:20 +0100
>Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:47:26 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 04/04/2022 13:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:12:16 +0100
>> >> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
>> >>> before the lights go red.
>> >>>
>> >>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
>> >>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
>> >>
>> >> Green: Accelerate (it might change)
>> >> Amber: Accelerate hard (it will change)
>> >> Amber/Red: Cruise (you might get green)
>> >> Red: Accelerate (pay particular attention to steering)
>> >>
>> >
>> >For York cyclists -
>> >
>> >Red Ignore
>> >Red & Amber Ignore
>> >Green Ignore
>> >Amber Ignore
>> >
>> Sorry. I don't believe that.
>> How can they possibly see what the lights say when they are coming the
>> wrong way down that one-way street?
>>
>> Nick
>
>
>I feel I ought to speak up for sensible cyclists here, as I consider myself to be one. (Some) car drivers get incensed at cyclists because they are stuck in traffic whilst the cyclist gets there before them, so fell need to blanket condemn all cyclists with the minor offense of some, and not look at the danger they themselves pose to other road users. Enough?
I only get incensed at cyclists who seem to think that stop signs and
lights don't apply to them. I will give them room and pass them
carefully... but when one dares me not to hit him when he's doing
something illegal, I'm tempted.

On 04/04/2022 22:26, Bill Day wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 22:16:35 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 15:38:20 +0100
>> Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:47:26 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/04/2022 13:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:12:16 +0100
>>>>> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
>>>>>> before the lights go red.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
>>>>>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
>>>>>
>>>>> Green: Accelerate (it might change)
>>>>> Amber: Accelerate hard (it will change)
>>>>> Amber/Red: Cruise (you might get green)
>>>>> Red: Accelerate (pay particular attention to steering)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For York cyclists -
>>>>
>>>> Red Ignore
>>>> Red & Amber Ignore
>>>> Green Ignore
>>>> Amber Ignore
>>>>
>>> Sorry. I don't believe that.
>>> How can they possibly see what the lights say when they are coming the
>>> wrong way down that one-way street?
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>>
>> I feel I ought to speak up for sensible cyclists here, as I consider myself to be one. (Some) car drivers get incensed at cyclists because they are stuck in traffic whilst the cyclist gets there before them, so fell need to blanket condemn all cyclists with the minor offense of some, and not look at the danger they themselves pose to other road users. Enough?
> I only get incensed at cyclists who seem to think that stop signs and
> lights don't apply to them. I will give them room and pass them
> carefully... but when one dares me not to hit him when he's doing
> something illegal, I'm tempted.

There are good and bad in all walks, sorry cycles of society.

I have no problem at all with well behaved cyclists using their machine
to get from A-B.

But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
off canal towpaths.

Tone

Sam Plusnet said:
> On 04-Apr-22 4:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT)
>> Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is already named but I forgot what the name is and that's the
>>> shortest interval of time is the time between when the light turns green
>>> and the person in back of you honks.
>>
>> New York Second.
>>
> Bristol First?

Forfar Fifth, and Mornington Crescent !

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100
Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
> racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
> race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
> off canal towpaths.

This.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 2022-04-04, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
> On 04/04/2022 22:26, Bill Day wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 22:16:35 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
>> wrote:
>>
> to get from A-B.
>
> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
> racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
> race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
> off canal towpaths.

Local man of a very respectable family was in a midlife crises, and
wearing that tight plasticy outfit, would ride his cycle up and down the
street, pausing at the traffic lights to stretch. The police could not
persuaded him against, so someone filmed him at that and forced him to
look at it.

--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

On 5 Apr 2022 07:45:42 GMT
maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

> On 2022-04-04, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
> > On 04/04/2022 22:26, Bill Day wrote:
> >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 22:16:35 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> > to get from A-B.
> >
> > But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
> > racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
> > race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
> > off canal towpaths.
>
> Local man of a very respectable family was in a midlife crises, and
> wearing that tight plasticy outfit, would ride his cycle up and down the
> street, pausing at the traffic lights to stretch. The police could not
> persuaded him against, so someone filmed him at that and forced him to
> look at it.
>
I don't wear any of *that* , I'm a proper cyclist. (OK I need to replace the front mudguard).

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 05/04/2022 09:54, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:56:35 +0100
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100
>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
>>> racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
>>> race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
>>> off canal towpaths.
>>
>> This.
>>
> Oh dear. Today I shall hoon down a canal path, drink BEER then plod back. Luckily it's not used much. I do have a bell, amd will slow down if I have to. Ah well it was nice chatting to you all before this came up.
>

Much appreciate the 'will slow down if I have to' bit.

It's those who don't that deserve a ducking.

Much of the problem is that SUSTRANS have paid for the upgrading of many
towing paths into cycle tracks, and then the cyclists think it's all
theirs, and boaters, their kids and dogs, should get out of their way.

Tone

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 22:16:35 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 15:38:20 +0100
>Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:47:26 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 04/04/2022 13:25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:12:16 +0100
>> >> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> No Jenkins it does not mean "put your foot down" you might make it
>> >>> before the lights go red.
>> >>>
>> >>> If the light is showing red and amber it is about to change to green if
>> >>> it is amber on its own the lights are about to change to red .
>> >>
>> >> Green: Accelerate (it might change)
>> >> Amber: Accelerate hard (it will change)
>> >> Amber/Red: Cruise (you might get green)
>> >> Red: Accelerate (pay particular attention to steering)
>> >>
>> >
>> >For York cyclists -
>> >
>> >Red Ignore
>> >Red & Amber Ignore
>> >Green Ignore
>> >Amber Ignore
>> >
>> Sorry. I don't believe that.
>> How can they possibly see what the lights say when they are coming the
>> wrong way down that one-way street?
>>
>> Nick
>
>
>I feel I ought to speak up for sensible cyclists here, as I consider myself to be one. (Some) car drivers get incensed at cyclists because they are stuck in traffic whilst the cyclist gets there before them, so fell need to blanket condemn all cyclists with the minor offense of some, and not look at the danger they themselves pose to other road users. Enough?

I ought to apologise for my remarks. I'm afraid I'm one to go for the
cheap, stereotypical gag over journalistic accuracy when given half a
chance: consequences of spending too much time in a (different)
newsgroup where extra points are awarded for bad taste.

I was a cyclist until my knees gave out. I hope I was a good one but I
also hope that allows me to make cycling jokes at my own expense.

Nick

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 10:10:21 +0100
Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

> On 05/04/2022 09:54, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:56:35 +0100
> > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100
> >> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
> >>> racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
> >>> race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
> >>> off canal towpaths.
> >>
> >> This.
> >>
> > Oh dear. Today I shall hoon down a canal path, drink BEER then plod back. Luckily it's not used much. I do have a bell, amd will slow down if I have to. Ah well it was nice chatting to you all before this came up.
> >
>
> Much appreciate the 'will slow down if I have to' bit.
>
> It's those who don't that deserve a ducking.
>
> Much of the problem is that SUSTRANS have paid for the upgrading of many
> towing paths into cycle tracks, and then the cyclists think it's all
> theirs, and boaters, their kids and dogs, should get out of their way.
>
The one I use is barely maintained, a vigilant lookout for ruts & potholes is required.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Kerr-Mudd, John said:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:56:35 +0100 Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100 Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>
>> > But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines,
>> > for racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted
>> > to cycle race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths,
>> > and certainly off canal towpaths.
>>
>> This.
>>
> Oh dear. Today I shall hoon down a canal path, drink BEER then plod
> back. Luckily it's not used much. I do have a bell, amd will slow down
> if I have to. Ah well it was nice chatting to you all before this came
> up.

And we're told that it's "politics" that we shouldn't talk about because
it makes trouble ...

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Tone said:
> On 05/04/2022 09:54, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:56:35 +0100 Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100 Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines,
>>>> for racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted
>>>> to cycle race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths,
>>>> and certainly off canal towpaths.
>>>
>>> This.
>>>
>> Oh dear. Today I shall hoon down a canal path, drink BEER then plod
>> back. Luckily it's not used much. I do have a bell, amd will slow
>> down if I have to. Ah well it was nice chatting to you all before
>> this came up.
>>
>
> Much appreciate the 'will slow down if I have to' bit.
>
> It's those who don't that deserve a ducking.
>
> Much of the problem is that SUSTRANS have paid for the upgrading of
> many towing paths into cycle tracks, and then the cyclists think it's
> all theirs, and boaters, their kids and dogs, should get out of their
> way.

*shrug*

"_People_ who think everybody else should get out of their way", surely?
Not all cyclists are such people, not all such people are cyclists.
It's a separate category.

Personally, I am a pedestrian, a cyclist, a biker and a car-driver; all
at once, even when I'm sitting at a computer. Thus, I know that all of
those are Nice People.

I am not, nor have I ever been, a jogger. Therefore it must be Their Fault,
whatever it is.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 05/04/2022 11:24, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 10:10:21 +0100
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/04/2022 09:54, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:56:35 +0100
>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100
>>>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines, for
>>>>> racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted to cycle
>>>>> race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths, and certainly
>>>>> off canal towpaths.
>>>>
>>>> This.
>>>>
>>> Oh dear. Today I shall hoon down a canal path, drink BEER then plod back. Luckily it's not used much. I do have a bell, amd will slow down if I have to. Ah well it was nice chatting to you all before this came up.
>>>
>>
>> Much appreciate the 'will slow down if I have to' bit.
>>
>> It's those who don't that deserve a ducking.
>>
>> Much of the problem is that SUSTRANS have paid for the upgrading of many
>> towing paths into cycle tracks, and then the cyclists think it's all
>> theirs, and boaters, their kids and dogs, should get out of their way.
>>
> The one I use is barely maintained, a vigilant lookout for ruts & potholes is required.
>
>
'Barely Maintained' applies to the whole of the waterway system now ever
since a previous government decided that they weren't theirs to maintain
anymore.

Tone

On 05/04/2022 13:23, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Tone said:
>> On 05/04/2022 09:54, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:56:35 +0100 Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 23:57:00 +0100 Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But I firmly believe that those using them as exercise machines,
>>>>> for racing, posing and basically showing off should be restricted
>>>>> to cycle race-courses, off public roads, off pavements and paths,
>>>>> and certainly off canal towpaths.
>>>>
>>>> This.
>>>>
>>> Oh dear. Today I shall hoon down a canal path, drink BEER then plod
>>> back. Luckily it's not used much. I do have a bell, amd will slow
>>> down if I have to. Ah well it was nice chatting to you all before
>>> this came up.
>>>
>>
>> Much appreciate the 'will slow down if I have to' bit.
>>
>> It's those who don't that deserve a ducking.
>>
>> Much of the problem is that SUSTRANS have paid for the upgrading of
>> many towing paths into cycle tracks, and then the cyclists think it's
>> all theirs, and boaters, their kids and dogs, should get out of their
>> way.
>
> *shrug*
>
> "_People_ who think everybody else should get out of their way", surely?
> Not all cyclists are such people, not all such people are cyclists.
> It's a separate category.
>
> Personally, I am a pedestrian, a cyclist, a biker and a car-driver; all
> at once, even when I'm sitting at a computer. Thus, I know that all of
> those are Nice People.
>
> I am not, nor have I ever been, a jogger. Therefore it must be Their Fault,
> whatever it is.
>

I'm sure you are a 'will slow down if I have to' cyclist, pedestrian,
biker and car-driver Richard. I was too, but you could add PSV & HGV
driver to that too. Sadly now that is just car-driver due to bits not
jbexing.

It's the two-wheeled head-downers who don't slow down that are the
subject of the above (tongue-in-cheek) rant.

Tone

On 05/04/2022 16:53, Tone wrote:

>
> It's the two-wheeled head-downers who don't slow down that are the
> subject of the above (tongue-in-cheek) rant.

Like one of my scoolfellows, but you could add 'rash'. Head down,
pedalling like the clappers, he went head-first into a lamp post, and
that was the end of his career.

This was before the days of helmets (1950s), but even one of those might
not have saved him.

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Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in news:t2hs1d$mbf$1
@dont-email.me:

> On 05/04/2022 16:53, Tone wrote:
>
>>
>> It's the two-wheeled head-downers who don't slow down that are the
>> subject of the above (tongue-in-cheek) rant.
>
> Like one of my scoolfellows, but you could add 'rash'. Head down,
> pedalling like the clappers, he went head-first into a lamp post, and
> that was the end of his career.
>
> This was before the days of helmets (1950s), but even one of those might
> not have saved him.
Yup, BTDT. When I were 16-ish, I think. Cycling home from scouts one night,
head down, flat out, and suddenly I was in the miggle of the road with the
remains of my bike round my neck and no idea where I was or why. Seems I'd
taken a high-speed bite out of the boot of a parked car. Lost me two front
teef. Gave the prunts quite a shock when I turned up in an ambulance, but I
don't recall much else.

The toofs were lost and gone forever - I do recall some extremely
uncomfortable dental surgery so I wasn't too pleased when a couple of year
ago the dentist announced that he was going to have to remove the caps and
drill out the stumps. But dental surgery has clearly come a long way in the
last half-century - it was no problem at all.

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Peter
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