I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
about it, no other particular requirements.

I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
but not with spindle lock.

Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?

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On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> about it, no other particular requirements.
>
> I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> but not with spindle lock.
>
> Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?

Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.

On 12/02/2023 16:59, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> about it, no other particular requirements.
>
> I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> but not with spindle lock.
>
> Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?

I was about to suggest a Makita like mine (HP330D)[1] - but it looks
like they don't make it any more - all the current stuff has gone for a
more traditional lump style battery even in 10.8V

Bosch still do one:

https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-gsr-12v-30-professional-cordless-brushless-drill-driver-inc-2x-2-0ah-batts-06019g9070

[1]

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/0/04/DrawerRunnerFittingAndSpacing.jpg

(a few used ones on eBay at mid range money)

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On 12/02/2023 18:34, Animal wrote:

>
> Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.

Don't most(all) of the have a auto spindle lock or else how would you be
able to tighten or remove a drill bit from a keyless chuck?

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Animal <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> > brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> > anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> > 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> > about it, no other particular requirements.
> >
> > I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> > sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> > impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> > but not with spindle lock.
> >
> > Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
>
> Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.

That's 20v though isn't it, with a big lump at the end of the handle.

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On 12/02/2023 16:59, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> about it, no other particular requirements.
>
> I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> but not with spindle lock.
>
> Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
>
Search for Metabo Powermaxx

John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
> On 12/02/2023 16:59, Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> > brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> > anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> > 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> > about it, no other particular requirements.
> >
> > I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> > sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> > impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> > but not with spindle lock.
> >
> > Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
>
> I was about to suggest a Makita like mine (HP330D)[1] - but it looks
> like they don't make it any more - all the current stuff has gone for a
> more traditional lump style battery even in 10.8V
>
> Bosch still do one:
>
> https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-gsr-12v-30-professional-cordless-brushless-drill-driver-inc-2x-2-0ah-batts-06019g9070
>
>
> [1]
>
> http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/images/0/04/DrawerRunnerFittingAndSpacing.jpg
>
> (a few used ones on eBay at mid range money)
>
Yes, it's odd isn't it, all those nice neat, compact ones without a
'lump' seem to have disappeared.

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alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12/02/2023 18:34, Animal wrote:
>
> >
> > Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
>
> Don't most(all) of the have a auto spindle lock or else how would you be
> able to tighten or remove a drill bit from a keyless chuck?
>
No, they mostly have a keyless chuck with two parts where you have to
use two hands to turn in opposite directions to tighten a bit. So if
it says 'keyless chuck' it means that two-handed sort.

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On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 19:59:54 UTC, alan_m wrote:
> On 12/02/2023 18:34, Animal wrote:
>
> >
> > Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
> Don't most(all) of the have a auto spindle lock or else how would you be
> able to tighten or remove a drill bit from a keyless chuck?

no. set to the lowest gear setting & yank the chuck quickly. Motor inertia is enough.

On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 20:03:06 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> Animal <tabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> > > I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> > > brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> > > anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> > > 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> > > about it, no other particular requirements.
> > >
> > > I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> > > sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> > > impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> > > but not with spindle lock.
> > >
> > > Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
> >
> > Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
> That's 20v though isn't it, with a big lump at the end of the handle.

No. Aldi have 2 ranges, the active energy & the cheaper all in for £25.. The latter is 12v lithium.

I've often wondered why drill makers do not do an option where you can have
a battery on the end of a cable, so you can still be away from a mains
supply but the drill itself is smaller and lighter and the battery can sit
on the ground or be on a belt.
Brian

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"Animal" <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> about it, no other particular requirements.
>
> I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around �70 for drill and
> impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around �30
> but not with spindle lock.
>
> Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?

Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, �20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.

Yes I was just thinking that, though having said that a chuck with a locking
key is not that bad once you make up a system of not losing them grin.

Brian

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> On 12/02/2023 18:34, Animal wrote:
>
>>
>> Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, �20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
>
> Don't most(all) of the have a auto spindle lock or else how would you be
> able to tighten or remove a drill bit from a keyless chuck?
>
>
>
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This query begs the question, what is the form of the failure of the old
device?
Is it the motor itself, or something electronic, or perhaps the gears and
any other part, like percussion generator or something.
Brian

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> On 12/02/2023 16:59, Chris Green wrote:
>> I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
>> brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
>> anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
>> 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
>> about it, no other particular requirements.
>>
>> I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
>> sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around �70 for drill and
>> impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around �30
>> but not with spindle lock.
>>
>> Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
>>
> Search for Metabo Powermaxx

John Rumm wrote:

> I was about to suggest a Makita like mine (HP330D)[1] - but it looks
> like they don't make it any more - all the current stuff has gone for a
> more traditional lump style battery even in 10.8V

Yes, I bought a couple of makita drill/drivers using the round 3-cell
CXT battery when they were clearing them out.

They're not so powerful as LXT, but handy to keep e.g. countersink and
screwdriver one in each, save keep swapping bits.

In article <tsd274$247q2$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've often wondered why drill makers do not do an option where you can
> have a battery on the end of a cable, so you can still be away from a
> mains supply but the drill itself is smaller and lighter and the battery
> can sit on the ground or be on a belt. Brian

At low voltage the current could be quite high, meaning thick cables. An
alternative is a battery inverter and a mains drill. Ryobe sell them.

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Animal <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 19:59:54 UTC, alan_m wrote:
> > On 12/02/2023 18:34, Animal wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
> > Don't most(all) of the have a auto spindle lock or else how would you be
> > able to tighten or remove a drill bit from a keyless chuck?
>
> no. set to the lowest gear setting & yank the chuck quickly. Motor inertia is enough.

OP here, yes, that sort of works but it's not ideal and is difficult
to get larger drill sizes sufficiently tight.

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Animal <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 20:03:06 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> > Animal <tabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> > > > I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> > > > brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> > > > anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> > > > 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> > > > about it, no other particular requirements.
> > > >
> > > > I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> > > > sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> > > > impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> > > > but not with spindle lock.
> > > >
> > > > Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
> > >
> > > Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
> > That's 20v though isn't it, with a big lump at the end of the handle.
>
> No. Aldi have 2 ranges, the active energy & the cheaper all in for £25. The latter is 12v lithium.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-12v-li-ion-cordless-drill/p/015458278413000

No longer available.

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On 13/02/2023 10:08, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I've often wondered why drill makers do not do an option where you can have
> a battery on the end of a cable, so you can still be away from a mains
> supply but the drill itself is smaller and lighter and the battery can sit
> on the ground or be on a belt.

Take that to the next level - a whole battery backpack:

https://makitauk.com/product/pdc1200a02

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On Monday, 13 February 2023 at 13:18:06 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> Animal <tabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 20:03:06 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> > > Animal <tabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, 12 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
> > > > > I'm looking to replace my long serving 10.8v Titan (i.e. Screwfix own
> > > > > brand I think) drill and I'm having a really hard time finding
> > > > > anything. I want either 10.8v or 12v so there's no bulky battery
> > > > > 'lump' at the end of the handle and I want a spindle lock. That's
> > > > > about it, no other particular requirements.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can find a few horribly expensive ones but nothing at all at the
> > > > > sort of price level that my Titan one cost (around £70 for drill and
> > > > > impact driver pair). I can find loads of really cheap ones around £30
> > > > > but not with spindle lock.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there nothing 'mid-range' with what I want?
> > > >
> > > > Aldi ferrex has spindle lock, £20. Only one battery & 3hr charge though.
> > > That's 20v though isn't it, with a big lump at the end of the handle.
> >
> > No. Aldi have 2 ranges, the active energy & the cheaper all in for £25. The latter is 12v lithium.
> https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-12v-li-ion-cordless-drill/p/015458278413000
>
> No longer available.

Yeah, they get cheap cordlesses in every so often. They often vary from batch to batch. I mostly avoid aldi power tools now, so many failures.

On 13/02/2023 13:09, Chris Green wrote:
> Animal<tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote:
>> no. set to the lowest gear setting & yank the chuck quickly. Motor inertia is enough.
> OP here, yes, that sort of works but it's not ideal and is difficult
> to get larger drill sizes sufficiently tight.

The speed control on mine is good enough that I grip the chuck, then
gently squeeze the trigger. It's reversible so I can get bits out as
well as in ;)

Andy