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* Gun Laws?John J
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+* Re: Gun Laws?Brian Gaff
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 by: John J - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 04:20 UTC

This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.

Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.

Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh

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 by: jim.gm4dhj - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:55 UTC

On 14/02/2023 04:20, John J wrote:
> This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
> Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>
> Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>
> Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
> https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh
haha

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 by: Brian - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:59 UTC

John J <johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote:
> This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
> Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed
> Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>
> Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>
> Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
> https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh
>

It could happen to anyone. At least, anyone who has a loaded, sub machine
gun, lying around.
That is, if you ignore details like gun laws, not to mention, fully
automatic gun laws, in this country.

Then, sentencing is generally far too lenient. The police officer recently
done for multiple rapes only got 20 years.

Couzens got 30.

Despite conditions, they will almost certainly serve far less- there will
be appeals etc.

At least one of the animals who murdered Jamie Bulger 30 years ago is free.
Jamie would be about 32 now. The animals who murdered him spent about 8
years inside for the murder. One has remained free, the other one keeps
getting into trouble. They were treated like victims.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 08:52 UTC

On 14/02/2023 07:59, Brian wrote:
> The animals who murdered him spent about 8
> years inside for the murder. One has remained free, the other one keeps
> getting into trouble. They were treated like victims.

That is the problem with the morality of the Left, which is derived from
the Faux Marxist interpretation of strict determinism. Everybody is what
they are because they cant help it, its just what capitalists/the
world/their reactionary parents did to them. So no one is in fact guilty
of anything. The Blair Defence, "I believed I was doing the right thing,
how can I have guilt?"

Irrespective of the plethora of moral compasses for sale by the bleeding
heart liberals, one asks oneself how long a society based on these
principles would in fact last.

--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

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 by: Brian Gaff - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:19 UTC

Was it a cheap knock off Machine gun maybe made in China?

There is little to say other than if you play with lethal weapons or those
who do its at your own risk. Its hardly a hunting rifle is it?
Brian

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"John J" <johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
> Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed
> Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>
> Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>
> Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
> https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh

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 by: Colin Bignell - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:48 UTC

On 14/02/2023 09:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Was it a cheap knock off Machine gun maybe made in China?

It was probably not of the best quality, as the suppressor fell off in
the middle of the shooting.

> There is little to say other than if you play with lethal weapons or those
> who do its at your own risk. Its hardly a hunting rifle is it?
> Brian
>

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 by: GB - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 11:29 UTC

On 14/02/2023 08:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 14/02/2023 07:59, Brian wrote:
>> The animals who murdered him spent about 8
>> years inside for the murder. One has remained free, the other one keeps
>> getting into trouble.  They were treated like victims.
>
> That is the problem with the morality of the Left, which is derived from
> the Faux Marxist interpretation of strict determinism. Everybody is what
> they are because they cant help it, its just what capitalists/the
> world/their reactionary parents did to them. So no one is in fact guilty
> of anything. The Blair Defence, "I believed I was doing the right thing,
> how can I have guilt?"

The two killers were 10 years old. In the majority of countries around
the world, they would not have been considered criminally responsible.

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 by: jim.gm4dhj - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:05 UTC

On 14/02/2023 04:20, John J wrote:
> This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
> Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>
> Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>
> Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
> https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh
black as usual

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 by: GB - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:16 UTC

On 14/02/2023 15:05, jim.gm4dhj wrote:

> black as usual

You are obsessed, as usual. :)

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 by: jim.gm4dhj - Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:49 UTC

On 14/02/2023 15:16, GB wrote:
> On 14/02/2023 15:05, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>
>> black as usual
>
> You are obsessed, as usual. :)
>
>
and correct

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Subject: Re: Gun Laws?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:24:47 +0000
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 by: Cursitor Doom - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:24 UTC

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:20:30 -0800 (PST), John J
<johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote:

>This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
>Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>
>Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>
>Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
>https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh

I get "page not found" so I'd imagine the Standard's been leaned on to
pull the story so as not to generate public concern. :-/

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From: fre...@spam.uk (Fredxx)
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Subject: Re: Gun Laws?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:45:38 +0000
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 by: Fredxx - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:45 UTC

On 15/02/2023 00:24, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:20:30 -0800 (PST), John J
> <johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
>> Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>>
>> Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>>
>> Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
>> https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh
>
> I get "page not found" so I'd imagine the Standard's been leaned on to
> pull the story so as not to generate public concern. :-/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mohamed-muhyidin-shooting-harlington-heathrow-sentenced-b1059808.html

I have no idea why the OP didn't copy the complete URL.

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Subject: Re: Gun Laws?
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 by: Paul - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 04:50 UTC

On 2/14/2023 10:45 PM, Fredxx wrote:
> On 15/02/2023 00:24, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:20:30 -0800 (PST), John J
>> <johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This came up in my feed - Thoughts anyone?
>>> Chiragh Chiragh, 39, has been found guilty of manslaughter of Mohamed Muhyidin when his submachine gun accidentally went off.
>>>
>>> Chiragh dumped his body by the roadside in west London.
>>>
>>> Isleworth Crown Court jailed for him for 20 years.
>>> https://standard.co.uk/news/crime/moh
>>
>> I get "page not found" so I'd imagine the Standard's been leaned on to
>> pull the story so as not to generate public concern. :-/
>
> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mohamed-muhyidin-shooting-harlington-heathrow-sentenced-b1059808.html
>
> I have no idea why the OP didn't copy the complete URL.

That's a wipe-copy of the visible part in the URL bar,
instead of <ctrl>-a <ctrl>-c method :-)

Paul

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