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Re: Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?

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Subject: Re: Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?
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by: Animal - Fri, 17 Feb 2023 18:03 UTC

On Friday, 17 February 2023 at 16:02:41 UTC, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-02-16 15:33, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:51:08 -0000, Carlos E. R.
> > <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-02-13 20:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:28:57 -0000, Carlos E.R.
> >>> <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> On 2023-02-11 16:45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 15:34:17 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
> >>>>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11/02/2023 12:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2023-02-11 12:31, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 11:16:07 -0000, The Natural Philosopher
> >>>>>>>> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/02/2023 10:45, SteveW wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/02/2023 09:34, Brian Gaff wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Earth and neutral are the same thing. Only two wires enter my
> >>>>>>>> house
> >>>>>>>> from the substation.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Depends on the country.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is not so even if 'only two wires enter the house'.
> >>>>>> Conventionally any metal pipes entering it provide the earth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wrong. My earth joins the neutral in the meter box.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not here.
> >>>>
> >>>> The neutral is grounded (to rods inserted in the mud) at the
> >>>> substation,
> >>>> and at the homes we have to insert a different rod for earth, in our
> >>>> mud, and is never joined to neutral.
> >>>
> >>> "Have to"? You don't have to do anything. You have a perfectly good
> >>> ground in the wire, why make your own less effective one?
> >>
> >> Here you do that, and the electricity company refuses to provide you
> >> with electricity.
> >
> > Do they regularly inspect your house? Nobody is allowed access to a UK
> > house without a warrant.
>
> Well, you have to pay a certified electrician to write for you a
> certificate of the installation, and you have to give that to the
> electricity company before you get the contract.
>
> It is up to you. If you do not invite the "inspector" to come and see,
> he will not sign the certificate and you don't get the electricity.
>
> In some countries, the process is repeated periodically. No invitation,
> contract voided, you have no electricity.
>
> >
> >> And someone gave you a perfect explanation of why that is dangerous as
> >> hell.
> >
> > I have seen no such explanation. 0V is 0V.
>
>
> Yes, sure.
> You did not read it, nor reason it.
> Something about the connection to ground being faulty at the station,
> and suddenly the chassis of your stove giving you a shock.

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