Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?

I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 10:59:33 +0000, Simon Ferrol
<simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:

>Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
>I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
>ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
>neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

The strongest ammonia solution is called 880 ammonia, so-named because
that's the density of the highest strength solution that ammonia will
form in water (35%). Specialist chemical laboratory suppliers sell it,
for example Fisher Scientific https://tinyurl.com/2jtktb2k . But it's
nasty stuff, not for the amateur to splash around on their doorsteps,
for example, see the hazard list on the Fisher advert.

Have you actually tried 'household ammonia' that you're so disparaging
about, or even household bleach?

--
Chris

On 18/02/2023 10:59, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

I have found that ordinary bleach stops dogs from shitting, I used the
thick stuff. It wasn't a double-blind trial, and of course, rain will
wash it away.

--
Cheers
Clive

Simon Ferrol wrote:

> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?

Ammonia above 10% w/w is reportable by the supplier, my houshold stuff
says it's 9.5%

<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/supplying-explosives-precursors/supplying-explosives-precursors-and-poison#poisons-1>

> I need it to take the stench off my neighbour's dogs shitting and
> pissing at my doorsteps.

Isn't Jeyes fluid traditional?

On 18/02/2023 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
>
> Simon Ferrol wrote:
>
>> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
> Ammonia above 10% w/w is reportable by the supplier, my houshold stuff
> says it's 9.5%
>
> <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/supplying-explosives-precursors/supplying-explosives-precursors-and-poison#poisons-1>
>
>> I need it to take the stench off my neighbour's dogs shitting and
>> pissing at my doorsteps.
>
> Isn't Jeyes fluid traditional?

Anything with a strong smell, to over-ride the scent of the last dog to
be there, will work.

--
Colin Bignell

On 18/02/2023 11:25, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 10:59:33 +0000, Simon Ferrol
> <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>>
>> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
>> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
>> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.
>
> The strongest ammonia solution is called 880 ammonia, so-named because
> that's the density of the highest strength solution that ammonia will
> form in water (35%). Specialist chemical laboratory suppliers sell it,
> for example Fisher Scientific https://tinyurl.com/2jtktb2k . But it's
> nasty stuff, not for the amateur to splash around on their doorsteps,
> for example, see the hazard list on the Fisher advert.
>
> Have you actually tried 'household ammonia' that you're so disparaging
> about, or even household bleach?
>
+1 for bleach to get rid of Urine smells. if the thing the urine is on
can take it.
Brickwork is fine. Grass and lawn not so much.

--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

On 18/02/2023 12:36, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 18/02/2023 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>> Simon Ferrol wrote:
>>
>>> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>>
>> Ammonia above 10% w/w is reportable by the supplier, my houshold stuff
>> says it's 9.5%
>>
>> <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/supplying-explosives-precursors/supplying-explosives-precursors-and-poison#poisons-1>
>>
>>> I need it to take the stench off my neighbour's dogs shitting and
>>> pissing at my doorsteps.
>>
>> Isn't Jeyes fluid traditional?
>
> Anything with a strong smell, to over-ride the scent of the last dog to
> be there, will work.
>
>
But bleach will degrade organic compounds and destroy the smell not just
override it

As indeed will febreze, but you need a lot of it for a pile of Urine

--
In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone
gets full Marx.

Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

We had a ‘dog problem’ in a flowerbed in our front garden. After I cleared
away 43 piles of dog crap, I covered the area thickly with chopped onions,
garlic granules, and pepper. You could smell this 100 yards away. So could
the dogs…who never crapped there again.

Whatever you choose to do, go in hard in order the break the psychological
link in the dog brain between the need to pee or crap, and your doorstep,
in one go.

Choose a period of forecasted dry weather, so your biowarfare won’t get
washed away too soon.

--
Spike

On 18 Feb 2023 at 10:59:33 GMT, "Simon Ferrol" <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com>
wrote:

> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

If you piss on your doostep yourself, that will keep the bodgers away. Not
sure about dogs.

--
Britain sitting behind the protectionist wall of the Customs Union is doing absolutely nothing for the oppressed coffee bean growers of the developing world. How ironic then that the cappuccino-swilling hordes of Hove voted in large numbers to keep some of the world's poorest people and traders locked out of our markets.

Tom Bewick - Labour councillor in Brighton and Hove

Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
>> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>>
>> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
>> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
>> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.
>
> We had a ‘dog problem’ in a flowerbed in our front garden.

We’ll really, you had a ‘dog owner problem’. Someone local must have either
knowingly let their dog crap in your garden or just let their dog roam.
Glad you’re sorted though.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 11:57:24 UTC, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 18/02/2023 10:59, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> > Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
> >
> > I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> > ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> > neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.
>
> I have found that ordinary bleach stops dogs from shitting, I used the
> thick stuff. It wasn't a double-blind trial, and of course, rain will
> wash it away.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Clive
I liked the story of a guy who lived alongside a "passage" through a terrace of houses. Dogs used to piss on the corners at each end and this caused a stink. He cured the situation with a floor pad of wire netting and wire netting strips tacked to the wall. Wires run inside via a convenient window from each to an induction coil with a battery and momentary switch. Whenever he spotted a dog marking the spot through the window he would click the switch. He reckoned no dog came back for a second blast of electricity up the todger.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 10:59:33 +0000, Simon Ferrol wrote:

> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

Ammonia is a gas - might disperse a bit and could kill you.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On Saturday, 18 February 2023 at 11:57:24 UTC, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 18/02/2023 10:59, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> > Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
> >
> > I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> > ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> > neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.
>
> I have found that ordinary bleach stops dogs from shitting, I used the
> thick stuff. It wasn't a double-blind trial, and of course, rain will
> wash it away.

and ammonia soon evaporates away

On 18/02/2023 13:54, Spike wrote:

> We had a ‘dog problem’ in a flowerbed in our front garden.

More likely to be the neighbourhood cats. Down my road I'm one of the
few who still has flower beds in front of my house -it has become the
local cat toilet!
> Whatever you choose to do, go in hard in order the break the psychological
> link in the dog brain between the need to pee or crap, and your doorstep,
> in one go.

Around my way anything close to the doorstep is likely to be the urban
fox. That has a smell all of its own - but only noticeable if you step
in it and transfer it indoors.

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 20:51:03 +0000, alan_m wrote:

> Around my way anything close to the doorstep is likely to be the urban
> fox. That has a smell all of its own - but only noticeable if you step
> in it and transfer it indoors.

Indeed. For a while I thought the turdlets I round on the decking (for
level access for SWMBO) at the front of our house was dogs on a long lead.

A fall of snow and some googling footprint images showed it was foxes.

On 18/02/2023 10:59, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> I need it to take the stench off my neighbour's dogs shitting and
> pissing at my doorsteps.

Similar problem here, but my own dog habitually doing it by my garden
gate. I read a suggestion of mustard, or vinegar. I tried it a week ago
and so far, it seems to be dissuading the habit.

On 18/02/2023 12:31, Andy Burns wrote:
> Isn't Jeyes fluid traditional?

I tried that - completely ineffective.

In message <tsstua$a3dr$16@dont-email.me>, Jethro_uk
<jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> writes
>On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 20:51:03 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> Around my way anything close to the doorstep is likely to be the urban
>> fox. That has a smell all of its own - but only noticeable if you step
>> in it and transfer it indoors.
>
>Indeed. For a while I thought the turdlets I round on the decking (for
>level access for SWMBO) at the front of our house was dogs on a long lead.
>
>A fall of snow and some googling footprint images showed it was foxes.

Fox poo has pointed ends.

--
Tim Lamb

On 19/02/2023 11:56, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tsstua$a3dr$16@dont-email.me>, Jethro_uk
> <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> writes
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 20:51:03 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>>
>>> Around my way anything close to the doorstep is likely to be the urban
>>> fox. That has a smell all of its own - but only noticeable if you step
>>> in it and transfer it indoors.
>>
>> Indeed. For a while I thought the turdlets I round on the decking (for
>> level access for SWMBO) at the front of our house was dogs on a long
>> lead.
>>
>> A fall of snow and some googling footprint images showed it was foxes.
>
> Fox poo has pointed ends.
>

Depends on what it's been eating. It not unusual to find running fox shit.

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:35 +1100, Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> In message <tsstua$a3dr$16@dont-email.me>, Jethro_uk
> <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> writes
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 20:51:03 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>>
>>> Around my way anything close to the doorstep is likely to be the urban
>>> fox. That has a smell all of its own - but only noticeable if you step
>>> in it and transfer it indoors.
>>
>> Indeed. For a while I thought the turdlets I round on the decking (for
>> level access for SWMBO) at the front of our house was dogs on a long
>> lead.
>>
>> A fall of snow and some googling footprint images showed it was foxes.
>
> Fox poo has pointed ends.

Wonder why ? Is it very tight areholes or the structure of the turds.

On 18/02/2023 10:59, Simon Ferrol wrote:
> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>
> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off my
> neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.

Pure ammonia is a gas. Try RSPCA's "Wee-Away"

--
Reentrant

I take it you're a dog "lover"?

It's not just about the smell.

Reentrant:
> On 18/02/2023 10:59, Simon Ferrol wrote:
>> Where do you buy ammonia on the high street? Is it even legal to buy it?
>>
>> I mean pure ammonia, not the "household ammonia" which is very diluted
>> ammonia with all sorts of perfumes. I need it to take the stench off
>> my neighbour's dogs shitting and pissing at my doorsteps.
>
>
> Pure ammonia is a gas. Try RSPCA's "Wee-Away"
>
>

On 19/02/2023 11:24, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> Similar problem here, but my own dog habitually doing it by my garden
> gate. I read a suggestion of mustard, or vinegar. I tried it a week ago
> and so far, it seems to be dissuading the habit.

and still working :-)