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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:21 UTC

Bloody hell.

This video, uploaded to YouTube last night by cycling activist Mike van Erp – better known as CyclingMikey (or the bike riding Batman, as one motorist disparagingly referred to him) – highlights the real dangers inherent in trying to make the roads safe for those on two wheels.

The cyclist who captured the video, who then sent it on to Mike, had allegedly just filmed a motorist using his phone behind the wheel in the Forest Hill area of London in February.

As we can see from the terrifying footage, the driver took exception to this piece of helmet cam activism, chasing the cyclist in his car after what we assume is a passenger tried to initially catch him on foot.

The motorist even mounts the kerb at one point during the pursuit, as the cyclist desperately pleads for passers-by to call the police. The bike rider finally escaped by turning into a private drive and switching off his lights.
According to Mikey, who claimed he was assaulted himself by a phone driver in January, the Met Police told the cyclist they couldn’t identify the driver.

Mike has posted the video to Twitter and YouTube in an attempt to track down the driver, with some cyclists responding to the “shocking” footage by calling for a life ban for the motorist.

“Insane. That calls for prison time and a life ban from driving,” said one commenter.

“I recently got chased in a similar manner after calling out to a driver who was driving on the wrong side of the road. He did a U-turn and chased me, overtaking and brake-checking me twice while yelling abuse. It was all captured on front and rear cameras with the car and driver clearly identifiable.

https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-26-april-2022-292233#live-blog-item-33573

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:48 UTC

On 26/04/2022 01:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bloody hell.
>
> This video, uploaded to YouTube last night by fairy-cycling activist Mike van Erp – better known as CyclingMikey (or the fairy-bike riding Batman, as one motorist disparagingly referred to him) – highlights the real dangers inherent in trying to make the roads safe for those on two wheels.
>
> The fairy-cyclist who captured the video, who then sent it on to Mike, had allegedly just filmed a motorist using his phone behind the wheel in the Forest Hill area of London in February.
>
> As we can see from the terrifying footage, the driver took exception to this piece of helmet cam activism, chasing the fairy-cyclist in his car after what we assume is a passenger tried to initially catch him on foot.
>
> The motorist even mounts the kerb at one point during the pursuit, as the fairy-cyclist desperately pleads for passers-by to call the police. The fairy-bike rider finally escaped by turning into a private drive and switching off his lights.
> According to Mikey, who claimed he was assaulted himself by a phone driver in January, the Met Police told the fairy-cyclist they couldn’t identify the driver.
>
> Mike has posted the video to Twitter and YouTube in an attempt to track down the driver, with some fairy-cyclists responding to the “shocking” footage by calling for a life ban for the motorist.
>
> “Insane. That calls for prison time and a life ban from driving,” said one commenter [sic].
>
> “I recently got chased in a similar manner after calling out to a driver who was driving on the wrong side of the road. He did a U-turn and chased me, overtaking and brake-checking me twice while yelling abuse. It was all captured on front and rear cameras with the car and driver clearly identifiable.
>
> https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-26-april-2022-292233#live-blog-item-33573

Why was he surprised?

Why is ANYONE surprised?

Remember:

"As ye sow, so shall ye reap."

"As ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."
[Luke, 6:31]

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them.”
[Matthew 7:12]

"For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will
also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses,
neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
[Matthew 6:14-15]

And most apposite of all:

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
[Matthew 7:1-5]

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 15:42 UTC

This is why on any route I ride regularly I have a mental map of bail-out points where I can get somewhere a car can't follow. I resent having to have this but there are a lot of dangerous angry people out there in possession of one of the world's most dangerous weapons, a car.

SAD ANGRY LITTLE ENGLANDER GAMMONS.

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:16 UTC

On 26/04/2022 04:42 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is why on any route I ride regularly I have a mental map of bail-out points where I can get somewhere a car can't follow.

That can only be because you permanently plan on picking fights and
confrontations with whoever else happens to be using the road.

There is no other possible explanation for it.

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Peter Dunn
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I've been attacked, punched, had a hammer swung multiple times at my head, received so much abuse, all for stopping cars racing the wrong way up a local one-way road. It just seems more and more people these days do what they like, and resort to violence if anyone protests! I hope they find this guy, hopefully with you putting his picture out will help.

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:31 UTC

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> I've been attacked, punched, had a hammer swung multiple times at my head, received so much abuse, all for stopping cars racing the wrong way up a local one-way road.

> It just seems more and more people these days do what they like, and resort to violence if anyone protests!

You ARE talking of fairy-cyclists - yes?

> I hope they find this guy, hopefully with you putting his picture out will help.

Was that posted by a police officer in uniform?

[And come on... the bit about "the wrong way up a local one-way road" is
just *too* ironic!]

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:32 UTC

Printer Jam
Printer Jam
19 hours ago (edited)
Go to 0:42 and slow down to 0.25 speed, keep double tapping space to stop/start and you will see that the numberplate is SA59 XRT. Vauxhall Astra Design Auto first registered in Glasgow. -- Edit: As others have pointed out, it is easier to spot if you go to 0:43 and press . (full stop) to go frame by frame.

WELL DONE THAT MAN.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:46 UTC

On 26/04/2022 15:42, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is why on any route I ride regularly I have a mental map of bail-out points where I can get somewhere a car can't follow. I resent having to have this but there are a lot of dangerous angry people out there in possession of one of the world's most dangerous weapons, a car.

On any route I use I work out the bail-out points where I can get
somewhere where I can hopefully avoid trouble. I've used this technique
as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years, but there are a lot of
dangerous angry 'entitled' people out there in possession of one of the
world's most dangerous weapons, namely lack of anticipation. I have to
do it for them.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:50 UTC

On 26/04/2022 16:21, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Peter Dunn
> 2 hours ago
> I've been attacked, punched, had a hammer swung multiple times at my head, received so much abuse, all for stopping cars racing the wrong way up a local one-way road. It just seems more and more people these days do what they like, and resort to violence if anyone protests! I hope they find this guy, hopefully with you putting his picture out will help.

Of course, a cyclist accosted because they were cycling the wrong way
would never retaliate, not even by shouting "GET OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY,
I'M NOT STOPPING".

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jake
1 day ago
I had a similar experience recently, reg CW54 KCE. He drove up the path for about half a mile and then when he noticed i was filming he drove straight at me on the path and did several skidding u-turns to keep up with me changing directions. I then went into a shop and when i came out he was gone. Some chilling footage!

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On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 13:21:12 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Bloody hell.
>
> This video, uploaded to YouTube last night by cycling activist Mike van Erp – better known as CyclingMikey (or the bike riding Batman, as one motorist disparagingly referred to him) – highlights the real dangers inherent in trying to make the roads safe for those on two wheels.
>
> The cyclist who captured the video, who then sent it on to Mike, had allegedly just filmed a motorist using his phone behind the wheel in the Forest Hill area of London in February.
>
> As we can see from the terrifying footage, the driver took exception to this piece of helmet cam activism, chasing the cyclist in his car after what we assume is a passenger tried to initially catch him on foot.
>
> The motorist even mounts the kerb at one point during the pursuit, as the cyclist desperately pleads for passers-by to call the police. The bike rider finally escaped by turning into a private drive and switching off his lights.
> According to Mikey, who claimed he was assaulted himself by a phone driver in January, the Met Police told the cyclist they couldn’t identify the driver.
>
> Mike has posted the video to Twitter and YouTube in an attempt to track down the driver, with some cyclists responding to the “shocking” footage by calling for a life ban for the motorist.
>
> “Insane. That calls for prison time and a life ban from driving,” said one commenter.
>
> “I recently got chased in a similar manner after calling out to a driver who was driving on the wrong side of the road. He did a U-turn and chased me, overtaking and brake-checking me twice while yelling abuse. It was all captured on front and rear cameras with the car and driver clearly identifiable.
>
> https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-26-april-2022-292233#live-blog-item-33573

Innocent until proven guilty. This video shows nothing.

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On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,

So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:46 UTC

On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,

> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.

What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
age-group.

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On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
> >> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,
>
> > So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
> age-group.
>
>
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> Spike

Cite?

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On 27/04/2022 15:48, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

>>>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,

>>> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
>> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
>> age-group.

> Cite?

You're the one making accusations, so DYOR.

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Alex
Alex
1 day ago
When I was in the police, we were given a lot of kit to protect ourselves, stab vest, pava spray, baton, cuffs, radio and a lot of training in self defence and loads of bsckup. Even then I would be worried doing what you do without all my kit and off duty, one day you might cross an armed nutter like an on duty police officer did on a standard traffic stop who was attacked by a man with a machete, he is lucky to be alive, head slashed open and lost a lot of blood, his taser saved him. I think is great what you do, but please look after yourself, have an escape plan ready like narrow paths where cars can’t pursue you, make sure you can call 999 easily if you need assistance and are being chased, with clear locations for the call centre operator. Just have your plan mapped in your head and practice run it.

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 by: Mike Collins - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:10 UTC

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:00:09 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 15:48, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
> >>>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,
>
> >>> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
> >> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
> >> age-group.
> > Cite?
>
> You're the one making accusations, so DYOR.
>
>
> --
> Spike

So no evidence to support your claim.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:39 UTC

On 27/04/2022 16:10, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:00:09 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 27/04/2022 15:48, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

>>>>>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,

>>>>> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
>>>> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
>>>> age-group.

>>> Cite?

>> You're the one making accusations, so DYOR.

> So no evidence to support your claim.

So no evidence to support your accusation.

--
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 by: Mike Collins - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:43 UTC

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:39:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 16:10, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:00:09 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 27/04/2022 15:48, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
> >>>>>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,
>
> >>>>> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
> >>>> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
> >>>> age-group.
>
> >>> Cite?
>
> >> You're the one making accusations, so DYOR.
> > So no evidence to support your claim.
> So no evidence to support your accusation.
>
>
> --
> Spike

You said

"What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
age-group."

Please provide evidence to support this.

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Beasty70
Beasty70
1 day ago (edited)
Reg plate looks like it’s SA59 XOT i just looked up the reg on DVLA and I got a match its a vauxhuall in grey 2009 1.6litre petrol i am sure you will be able to give the police this comment of the reg plate and they can take it from there

change the resolution to 2k and youll see its XRT

SA59 XRT not XOT

They need help IDing the driver, not the car...

1 day ago
"The registered keeper of a vehicle has a legal obligation to provide details of who was driving at the time of an alleged motoring offence. Failing to provide drivers identity carries 6 penalty points on your licence and up to £1000 fine."

XRT are last 3 digits not X0T

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 by: Spike - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:49 UTC

On 27/04/2022 16:43, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:39:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 27/04/2022 16:10, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:00:09 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 27/04/2022 15:48, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

>>>>>>>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,

>>>>>>> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
>>>>>> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
>>>>>> age-group.

>>>>> Cite?

>>>> You're the one making accusations, so DYOR.
>>> So no evidence to support your claim.

>> So no evidence to support your accusation.

> You said

> "What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
> age-group."

> Please provide evidence to support this.

Before that, you said "So you admit you are too old to use a motor
vehicle safely".

Please provide evidence to support this.

--
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On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:49:09 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 16:43, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:39:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 27/04/2022 16:10, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 17:00:09 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 27/04/2022 15:48, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 16:46:53 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> On 27/04/2022 15:29, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 09:46:32 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> as a motorcycle rider for well over 60 years,
>
> >>>>>>> So you admit you are too old to use a motor vehicle safely.
> >>>>>> What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
> >>>>>> age-group.
>
> >>>>> Cite?
>
> >>>> You're the one making accusations, so DYOR.
> >>> So no evidence to support your claim.
>
> >> So no evidence to support your accusation.
> > You said
>
> > "What a pity it is then that stats show wrinkles as the safest driver
> > age-group."
>
> > Please provide evidence to support this.
> Before that, you said "So you admit you are too old to use a motor
> vehicle safely".
> Please provide evidence to support this.
> --
> Spike

So still no evidence to support your claim.

UK driving licences expire at the age of 70 so you are too old to drive by definition.

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ETr4d3
1 day ago
Criminal sentencing is too soft in the UK. My friend was a car theft victim few years ago, the thief had 74 previous convictions for car thefts. He claimed that he grew up without parents and had a hard life, bla bla bla and was let free.

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Subject: Re:_Cyclist_chased_by_kerb-mounting_phone_driver_in_
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 by: JNugent - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 23:29 UTC

On 27/04/2022 06:26 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

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> UK driving licences expire at the age of 70 so you are too old to drive by definition.

Hahahahahahahahah!

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 by: Spike - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:06 UTC

On 27/04/2022 23:29, JNugent wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 06:26 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> [ ... ]

>> UK driving licences expire at the age of 70 so you are too old to drive by definition.

> Hahahahahahahahah!

Quite so.

But he accused me of being an unsafe driver, not an unlicensed one -
he's shifted his ground now that was pointed out.

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