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 by: jim.gm4dhj - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 05:33 UTC

anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
many stories the building had but what a great idea!

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 by: Jim gm4dhj ... - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 07:27 UTC

On 01/03/2023 05:33, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
> many stories the building had but what a great idea!
https://theverybesttop10.com/fire-safety-escape-chutes/

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 08:24 UTC

jim.gm4dhj <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote

> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....

Yep, there are some somewhere, forget where.

> just been listening to Jean Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was
> describing his first day at school and how his school building had a
> chute fire escape...he didn't say how many stories the building had but
> what a great idea!

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 by: Brian Gaff - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 08:32 UTC

I'm not so sure about that. For a start you have to deploy one, and any
people coming along behind you are likely to kick you in the head. I've seen
this kind of thing in aircraft evacuations

The material needs to be non flammable and somewhat insulate
Brian
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"jim.gm4dhj" <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school and
> how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how many
> stories the building had but what a great idea!

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 by: Brian Gaff - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 08:34 UTC

Singapore had some, but that was years ago.
Brian

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> jim.gm4dhj <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>
>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....
>
> Yep, there are some somewhere, forget where.
>
>> just been listening to Jean Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was
>> describing his first day at school and how his school building had a
>> chute fire escape...he didn't say how many stories the building had but
>> what a great idea!

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 08:40 UTC

On 01/03/2023 05:33, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
> many stories the building had but what a great idea!

Possibly you don't see them as in the real world they may pose more of a
risk for injury especially during practice fire drills.

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 by: Colin Bignell - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 08:46 UTC

On 01/03/2023 08:32, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I'm not so sure about that. For a start you have to deploy one,

Most were fixed chutes and often like a helter skelter

> and any
> people coming along behind you are likely to kick you in the head.

More likely in the backside.

I've seen
> this kind of thing in aircraft evacuations
>
> The material needs to be non flammable and somewhat insulate

Steel seems to have been favourite.

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 by: jon - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 09:35 UTC

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:33:18 +0000, jim.gm4dhj wrote:

> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
> many stories the building had but what a great idea!

Unfortunately they require regular maintenance, which is something
designers and builder no longer incorporate in the specification nowadays.

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 by: Jim gm4dhj ... - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 12:14 UTC

On 01/03/2023 09:35, jon wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:33:18 +0000, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>
>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
>> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
>> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
>> many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>
> Unfortunately they require regular maintenance, which is something
> designers and builder no longer incorporate in the specification nowadays.
wot you talkin' about buildings last forever

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 17:41 UTC

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 20:35:45 +1100, jon <jon@nospam.cn> wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:33:18 +0000, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>
>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
>> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
>> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
>> many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>
> Unfortunately they require regular maintenance,

So do fire doors, sprinkler systems, fire alarms, exit signs etc etc etc.

> which is something
> designers and builder no longer incorporate in the specification
> nowadays.

Wrong.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 19:49 UTC

On 01-Mar-23 9:35, jon wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:33:18 +0000, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>
>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
>> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
>> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
>> many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>
> Unfortunately they require regular maintenance, which is something
> designers and builder no longer incorporate in the specification nowadays.

Interesting to see one on a 40-story building though.

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From: mills37....@gmail.com (Roger Mills)
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Subject: Re: chute fire escapes
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 by: Roger Mills - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:23 UTC

On 01/03/2023 07:27, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
> On 01/03/2023 05:33, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to
>> Jean Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at
>> school and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't
>> say how many stories the building had but what a great idea!
> https://theverybesttop10.com/fire-safety-escape-chutes/

I can't quite see from the photo what happens when you get to the
bottom. Looks like it either chucks you off about 8 foot above the deck,
or smashes you into a brick wall. Not sure I fancy either option!
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From: rbw...@outlook.com (Robin)
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 by: Robin - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 22:02 UTC

On 01/03/2023 20:23, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 01/03/2023 07:27, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>> On 01/03/2023 05:33, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to
>>> Jean Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at
>>> school and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he
>>> didn't say how many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>> https://theverybesttop10.com/fire-safety-escape-chutes/
>
> I can't quite see from the photo what happens when you get to the
> bottom. Looks like it either chucks you off about 8 foot above the deck,
> or smashes you into a brick wall. Not sure I fancy either option!

I think when in use it'll have continued down but the building is now
the Maritime Museum at Albert Dock in Liverpool and they'd not want
people trying to climb up.

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From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
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 by: Paul - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 22:19 UTC

On 3/1/2023 3:23 PM, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 01/03/2023 07:27, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>> On 01/03/2023 05:33, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>> https://theverybesttop10.com/fire-safety-escape-chutes/
>
> I can't quite see from the photo what happens when you get to the bottom.
> Looks like it either chucks you off about 8 foot above the deck, or smashes
> you into a brick wall. Not sure I fancy either option!

Some fire escapes have a fold-down section for the last number of feet.

When you decommission a fire escape, you carefully block the top,
as well as removing the fold-down section at the end. That's why
some of the pictures look a bit silly.

On a metal slide, you can use your shoes as a brake, and if
your shoes melts, nobody cares. Whereas other slide types, such
as the netting type, there's a real danger of getting abrasive
skin burns.

In an emergency, external fire escapes are never a good idea.
Sure, it's better than dying, but on the way down, you're
not exactly congratulating the designers on a job well done.
Usually these things have been left to decay, and just
about anything could happen to you. On the stair type
fire escape, the handrails can be broken, and so on.
They can also be shaky (some of the supports rusted through).

They don't receive nearly the amount of inspection that a
roller-coaster receives. (Roller coasters are inspected daily.)

Paul

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 by: Paul - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 22:34 UTC

On 3/1/2023 2:49 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 01-Mar-23 9:35, jon wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:33:18 +0000, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>>
>>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to Jean
>>> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
>>> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
>>> many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>>
>> Unfortunately they require regular maintenance, which is something
>> designers and builder no longer incorporate in the specification nowadays.
>
> Interesting to see one on a 40-story building though.
>

Not a chute, but they got'em.

https://www.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/78937c/this_fire_escape_is_a_40_storey_spiral_staircase/

Notice there's no handrail next to the central tube, for the "fraidy-cats" :-)

Paul

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 by: jim.gm4dhj - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 06:31 UTC

On 01/03/2023 22:34, Paul wrote:
> On 3/1/2023 2:49 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 01-Mar-23 9:35, jon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:33:18 +0000, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>>>
>>>> anybody seen one anywhere in the world ?.....just been listening to
>>>> Jean
>>>> Sheperd on insomnia rado....he was describing his first day at school
>>>> and how his school building had a chute fire escape...he didn't say how
>>>> many stories the building had but what a great idea!
>>>
>>> Unfortunately they require regular maintenance, which is something
>>> designers and builder no longer incorporate in the specification
>>> nowadays.
>>
>> Interesting to see one on a 40-story building though.
>>
>
> Not a chute, but they got'em.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/78937c/this_fire_escape_is_a_40_storey_spiral_staircase/
>
> Notice there's no handrail next to the central tube, for the
> "fraidy-cats" :-)
>
>    Paul
my god!

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 by: alan_m - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 10:41 UTC

On 01/03/2023 22:19, Paul wrote:

>
> On a metal slide, you can use your shoes as a brake, and if
> your shoes melts, nobody cares. Whereas other slide types, such
> as the netting type, there's a real danger of getting abrasive
> skin burns.

In a real emergency you if one person brakes and the person behind
doesn't it can result in someone's feet hitting the spine of the person
in front.

You may care a bit if your shoes melt during a routine fire escape drill.
Regular drills can be effective in flagging up problem. Where I used to
work they discovered on evacuating a building some people could be
trapped outside the building in a virtual cul-de-sac as no-one had a key
to a security gate.

I wonder how many of those slides were designed with the obese in mind,
especially that internal one down the existing stairs with the 180
degree bend at the end of each section. Just look a the number of
Youtube videos showing adults injuring themselves going down slides in
children's playgrounds :)

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 by: Rob Morley - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 18:22 UTC

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 08:32:28 -0000
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not so sure about that. For a start you have to deploy one, and
> any people coming along behind you are likely to kick you in the
> head. I've seen this kind of thing in aircraft evacuations

One of our houses at school had a rope fire escape, like a steep
Breeches buoy with some sort of automatic brake - I forget the details.

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