On Monday, 27 February 2023 at 21:16:28 UTC, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on 27 Feb 2023 16:35:48 GMT, Tim+
> <tim.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 02:23:20 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
> >>>
> >>> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
> >>> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
> >>>
> >>> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
> >>> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
> >>> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
> >>> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
> >>> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
> >>> burns out.
> >>>
> >>
> >> They should make lamps and fuses more easily replaceable.
> >> Platter replacement is too exxpensive - should be made
> >> available retail, where ovens are sold.
> >>
> >> Microswitches in the door will last longer if the microwave
> >> is paused or stopped before opening the door. Too many people
> >> use a door pull to terminate cooking.
> >
> >Well after 35 years the switches are still working well in mine despite
> >years of abuse.
> I'm just one guy but I've never had problem with the switches either.
> >Are bulbs really that hard to replace in modern machine once you’ve whipped
> >the cover off or are folk too feart to peek under the cover these days?
> >
> >Tim
> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
> standard light bulb?

Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1 screw-down lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb goes, then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.

On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:

>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>> standard light bulb?
>
> Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1 screw-down
> lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb goes,
> then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.

I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient - especially if the
microwave has a conventional oven built in.

Quite surprised to see an LED lamp in a combi microwave recently. Wonder how
long that'll last . . .

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 18:31:49 +1100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:
>
>>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20
>>> dollars.
>>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>>> standard light bulb?
>>
>> Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1
>> screw-down
>> lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb
>> goes,
>> then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.

> I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient

My microwave doesnt get that hot.

> - especially if the
> microwave has a conventional oven built in.

Nothing special needed for conventional non microwave ovens.

> Quite surprised to see an LED lamp in a combi microwave recently. Wonder
> how
> long that'll last . . .

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:31:53 UTC, RJH wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:
>
> >> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
> >> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
> >> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
> >> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
> >> standard light bulb?
> >
> > Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1 screw-down
> > lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb goes,
> > then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.
> I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient - especially if the
> microwave has a conventional oven built in.

combis do use oven type bulbs, but ordinary non-hot ones work ok IME - but I'm not recommending anyone do so.

> Quite surprised to see an LED lamp in a combi microwave recently. Wonder how
> long that'll last . . .

If it's somewhat cooled & underrun it should be ok. If not, it'll soon be dark emitting.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 08:30:42 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 18:31:49 +1100, RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:
> >
> >>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20
> >>> dollars.
> >>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
> >>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
> >>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
> >>> standard light bulb?
> >>
> >> Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1
> >> screw-down
> >> lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb
> >> goes,
> >> then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.
>
> > I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient
> My microwave doesnt get that hot.
> > - especially if the
> > microwave has a conventional oven built in.
> Nothing special needed for conventional non microwave ovens.

amazing, he's actually right

On 2 Mar 2023 at 02:32:36 GMT, Animal wrote:

> On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:31:53 UTC, RJH wrote:
>> On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:
>>
>>>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>>>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>>>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>>>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>>>> standard light bulb?
>>>
>>> Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1 screw-down
>>> lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb goes,
>>> then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.
>> I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient - especially if the
>> microwave has a conventional oven built in.
>
> combis do use oven type bulbs, but ordinary non-hot ones work ok IME - but I'm
> not recommending anyone do so.
>
>> Quite surprised to see an LED lamp in a combi microwave recently. Wonder how
>> long that'll last . . .
>
> If it's somewhat cooled & underrun it should be ok. If not, it'll soon be dark
> emitting.

Can't see any way it could avoid the heat of the oven (200C). I'd qualify by
saying I assumed it was an LED - it didn't get warm, and had a very cool-white
light.
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

On 02/03/2023 08:04, RJH wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2023 at 02:32:36 GMT, Animal wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:31:53 UTC, RJH wrote:
>>> On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>>>>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>>>>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>>>>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>>>>> standard light bulb?
>>>>
>>>> Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1 screw-down
>>>> lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb goes,
>>>> then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.
>>> I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient - especially if the
>>> microwave has a conventional oven built in.
>>
>> combis do use oven type bulbs, but ordinary non-hot ones work ok IME - but I'm
>> not recommending anyone do so.
>>
>>> Quite surprised to see an LED lamp in a combi microwave recently. Wonder how
>>> long that'll last . . .
>>
>> If it's somewhat cooled & underrun it should be ok. If not, it'll soon be dark
>> emitting.
>
> Can't see any way it could avoid the heat of the oven (200C). I'd qualify by
> saying I assumed it was an LED - it didn't get warm, and had a very cool-white
> light.

Well there is fan cooling for the magnetron, and silicon can handle
150°C without too much problems other than reduced lifetime.

Unlike a normal oven, the light is generally to one side, where the
cooling is better

--
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the
urge to rule it.”
– H. L. Mencken

On Thursday, 2 March 2023 at 08:04:32 UTC, RJH wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2023 at 02:32:36 GMT, Animal wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 07:31:53 UTC, RJH wrote:
> >> On 27 Feb 2023 at 22:32:07 GMT, Animal wrote:
> >>
> >>>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
> >>>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
> >>>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
> >>>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
> >>>> standard light bulb?
> >>>
> >>> Many can take standard bulbs. Why don't sharps? I guess an all in 1 screw-down
> >>> lamp with push-on contacts saves 10p parts & 10p labour. Until the bulb goes,
> >>> then they can charge you. Win win, but not for you.
> >> I'd have thought they'd need to be heat resilient - especially if the
> >> microwave has a conventional oven built in.
> >
> > combis do use oven type bulbs, but ordinary non-hot ones work ok IME - but I'm
> > not recommending anyone do so.
> >
> >> Quite surprised to see an LED lamp in a combi microwave recently. Wonder how
> >> long that'll last . . .
> >
> > If it's somewhat cooled & underrun it should be ok. If not, it'll soon be dark
> > emitting.
> Can't see any way it could avoid the heat of the oven (200C).

then you're disqualified.