We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
shredding.
All confidential.
Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
Far too many to feed into a fire.

Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
company who come to your door.

Has anyone successfully tackled this?

Cheers

Dave R

On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
Bonfire, old rubbish bin with holes in, hydrochloric acid, soak in a
bleach solution,

On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?

I needed to get shot of a bunch of paper recently, and got a local
shredding firm to come and pick it up. They took away two wheelie bins
worth. They can also leave bags for you to fill at your leisure if you
want.

This was the lot I used:

https://thamessecurityshredding.com/

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On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
??? farmer here disposed of 40 cut tree brances in 4 large fires :-)

> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>

Power tools. feed em into a blender? under a ride on mower? angle grinder?
So many tools so little time

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“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

― Leo Tolstoy

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 13:55:35 +0000, nothanks wrote:

> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>> shredding.
>> All confidential.
>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>
>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>> company who come to your door.
>>
>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave R
> Bonfire, old rubbish bin with holes in, hydrochloric acid, soak in a
> bleach solution,

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How many of these have you done recently?

Cheers

Dave R

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On 15/03/2023 14:54, David wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 13:55:35 +0000, nothanks wrote:
>
>> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>>> shredding.
>>> All confidential.
>>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>>
>>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>>> company who come to your door.
>>>
>>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave R
>> Bonfire, old rubbish bin with holes in, hydrochloric acid, soak in a
>> bleach solution,
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>
> How many of these have you done recently?
all. not necessarily for paper though.

I think Id hire a mini digger and bury them,.

>
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave R
>
>
>

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foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:03:35 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 15/03/2023 14:54, David wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 13:55:35 +0000, nothanks wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>>>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>>>> shredding.
>>>> All confidential.
>>>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>>>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>>>
>>>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>>>> company who come to your door.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave R
>>> Bonfire, old rubbish bin with holes in, hydrochloric acid, soak in a
>>> bleach solution,
>>
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>>
>> How many of these have you done recently?
> all. not necessarily for paper though.
>
> I think Id hire a mini digger and bury them,.

(1) I think the size of your garden and mine are probably different.

(2) That leaves me the problems of what to do with the soil.

(3) Don't archaeologist dig up the remains of documents decades/centuries
later?

Seriously, though, these papers require secure destruction and individual
A4 sheets are notoriously difficult to burn in bulk.

Cheers

Dave R

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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 13:50:48 +0000, A Nonymouse <red.pug@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>shredding.
>All confidential.
>Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
>Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>company who come to your door.
>
>Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>
>Cheers

If you are working, could you take them to work and filter them into
the office's confidential waste? If you ask first, they probably
won't mind. Or maybe someone else could to do this.

On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?

I had a lot of confidential waste to clear out when I was throwing away
out-of-date financial records etc. I used an office shredder and had to
accept that every few shredder-binfuls of waste I'd have to stop for a
few hours to let the shredder cool down so the thermal cutout cut back
in. Tedious.

What was worse was having the local tip go apeshit when I poured a
bin-bag of shreddings into the waste paper skip. Apparently the
industrial shredder that they use for shredding paper prior to pulping
can't cope with paper that is already shredded. Ah diddums, poor ickle
shredder :-(

So I took the remaining shreddings home and kept the bag until we moved
into a new house where they could be added to a compost bin.

On 15/03/2023 15:10, David wrote:

> Seriously, though, these papers require secure destruction and individual
> A4 sheets are notoriously difficult to burn in bulk.

If buried, they would rot pretty quickly. You only need the pages to
stick together, etc. Unless these are state secrets, it's not a big
problem. Who's going to go to enormous lengths to read your old bank
statements, after all?

On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R

Just chuck out a few dozen pages per week, sealed inside
old food containers in your normal rubbish. This will
either go to landfill or more likely to an incinerator
anyway. Manually tear off any names or numbers if you are
paranoid.

Unless you have been up to something, no-one is going to
sift through your general rubbish, whereas blue-bins full
of paper/card/plastic/tins will have their contents sent
along a conveyor for manual sorting.

On 15/03/2023 15:35, NY wrote:
> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>> shredding.
>> All confidential.
>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>
>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>> company who come to your door.
>>
>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>
> I had a lot of confidential waste to clear out when I was throwing away
> out-of-date financial records etc. I used an office shredder and had to
> accept that every few shredder-binfuls of waste I'd have to stop for a
> few hours to let the shredder cool down so the thermal cutout cut back
> in. Tedious.
>
> What was worse was having the local tip go apeshit when I poured a
> bin-bag of shreddings into the waste paper skip. Apparently the
> industrial shredder that they use for shredding paper prior to pulping
> can't cope with paper that is already shredded. Ah diddums, poor ickle
> shredder :-(

That's also the case for blue-bins for household recycling. Shredded
paper is not allowed simply because of the mess it makes on their
own manual conveyor sorting lines. Also it gets wrapped around the drums
that power the driving belts.

On 15/03/2023 14:54, David wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 13:55:35 +0000, nothanks wrote:
>
>> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>>> shredding.
>>> All confidential.
>>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>>
>>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>>> company who come to your door.
>>>
>>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave R
>> Bonfire, old rubbish bin with holes in, hydrochloric acid, soak in a
>> bleach solution,
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>
> How many of these have you done recently?
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave R
>
>
>
That's a slightly odd response to someone who spent time trying to help
you. I use the first 2 regularly, bleach solution a long time ago
(worked moderately well, but slow), a chemist pal told me to try HCL but
I didn't need to.

On 15 Mar 2023 at 13:50:48 GMT, "A Nonymouse" <red.pug@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?

There's an outfit in Deal which will give you bags for £5 each. You can put up
to 17kg of paper, old CD/DVD, into the bag and take it back to them for secure
shredding.

I expect there are others elsewhere.

--
Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.

Terry Pratchett

On 15/03/2023 15:10, David wrote:
>
> Seriously, though, these papers require secure destruction and individual
> A4 sheets are notoriously difficult to burn in bulk.
>
What I've done, is take a number of pages, roll them up together, then
flatten a bit, and twist them. A big stack of them will burn
surprisingly well that way. Do it on a still day, or use a metal bin
with air holes.
Takes time, but it's secure.

On 15-Mar-23 14:38, John Rumm wrote:
> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>> shredding.
>> All confidential.
>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>
>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>> company who come to your door.
>>
>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>
> I needed to get shot of a bunch of paper recently, and got a local
> shredding firm to come and pick it up. They took away two wheelie bins
> worth. They can also leave bags for you to fill at your leisure if you
> want.
>
> This was the lot I used:
>
> https://thamessecurityshredding.com/

"This stuff is so confidential we _have_ to destroy it. Above all, it
must not end up in the wrong hands."

"Give it to these people, they say we can trust them."

--
Sam Plusnet

On 15-Mar-23 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>

Decades ago, our security officer had an arrangement with a local
hospital.

Every now and then, he would go over there and personally feed the stuff
into their furnace.

Modern furnaces might be more fussy about their diet, but if they use it
to destroy medical waste, a few bits of paper shouldn't be a problem.

--
Sam Plusnet

Andrew wrote:

>That's also the case for blue-bins for household recycling. Shredded
>paper is not allowed simply because of the mess it makes on their
>own manual conveyor sorting lines. Also it gets wrapped around the drums
>that power the driving belts.

We are permitted to put shredded paper in our recycling bins.

When I visited our local sorting facility, we saw the trommel
screen which removed all small "contamination" which then went
straight to landfill. This would clearly pass any crosscut paper
shreddings.

I queried this, and they said that I was correct, but they
felt that it was psychologically better to encourage recycling.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

On 15/03/2023 19:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 15-Mar-23 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>> shredding.
>> All confidential.
>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>
>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>> company who come to your door.
>>
>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>
>
> Decades ago, our security officer had an arrangement with a local hospital.
>
> Every now and then, he would go over there and personally feed the stuff
> into their furnace.
>
> Modern furnaces might be more fussy about their diet, but if they use it
> to destroy medical waste, a few bits of paper shouldn't be a problem.
>
Printed paper will burn and produce reasonable heat, but it makes a lot
of ash.

Glossy mags simply wont.

I wonder whether the sort of serious shredders used for tree waste would
work.

Oh. Apparently they will.

Lots of instructions on line., You can buyta simple shredder for £150 or
so, or hire up to 40hp ones

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and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

On 15/03/2023 20:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 15/03/2023 19:09, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 15-Mar-23 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>>> shredding.
>>> All confidential.
>>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>>
>>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>>> company who come to your door.
>>>
>>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>>
>>
>> Decades ago, our security officer had an arrangement with a local
>> hospital.
>>
>> Every now and then, he would go over there and personally feed the
>> stuff into their furnace.
>>
>> Modern furnaces might be more fussy about their diet, but if they use
>> it to destroy medical waste, a few bits of paper shouldn't be a problem.
>>
> Printed paper will burn and produce reasonable heat, but it makes a lot
> of ash.
>
> Glossy mags simply wont.
>
> I wonder whether the sort of serious shredders used for tree waste would
> work.
>
> Oh. Apparently they will.
>
> Lots of instructions on line., You can buyta simple shredder for £150 or
> so, or hire up to 40hp ones
>
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ui66MPjpxI

Shredder porn

I thi9nk this is my top recommendation. Face mask, safety gogs and
gloves and a 13bhpo shredder. Make compost

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higher education positively fortifies it."

- Stephen Vizinczey

On 15/03/2023 14:54, David wrote:
> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>
> How many of these have you done recently?
>

Big bonfire in a grotty old Chiminea. Burnt about 4x A4 printer paper
boxes (2500 sheets?) of old credit card bills, bank statements and such
going back over 20 years last week. It took a few hours. Cost nothing
but time and matches. It was nice to sit on a cold and sunny day in the
garden with the Memsahib chatting and drinking tea whilst we stoked the
flames.

On Wednesday, 15 March 2023 at 13:53:17 UTC, A Nonymouse wrote:
> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
> shredding.
> All confidential.
> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>
> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
> company who come to your door.
>
> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>
> Cheers

Rexel sell a shredder that takes a large number (maybe 80?) of A4 sheets in one go & slowly shreds them. Not especially a recommendation but an option.
Feeding a handful into a crosscut shredder each day is sometimes acceptable.
Making papercrete consumes lots fast. A 2 speed mains drill with paint mixing blade is about the minimum equipment, some folk have also found a pressure washer works.
Or burn them.

On 15/03/2023 19:04, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 15-Mar-23 14:38, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 15/03/2023 13:50, A Nonymouse wrote:
>>> We have a couple of boxes of A4 plus lots of little bits which need
>>> shredding.
>>> All confidential.
>>> Far too many to do through an average office shredder.
>>> Far too many to feed into a fire.
>>>
>>> Options seem to be short term hire of a shredder or use a shredding
>>> company who come to your door.
>>>
>>> Has anyone successfully tackled this?
>>
>> I needed to get shot of a bunch of paper recently, and got a local
>> shredding firm to come and pick it up. They took away two wheelie bins
>> worth. They can also leave bags for you to fill at your leisure if you
>> want.
>>
>> This was the lot I used:
>>
>> https://thamessecurityshredding.com/
>
> "This stuff is so confidential we _have_ to destroy it.  Above all, it
> must not end up in the wrong hands."
>
> "Give it to these people, they say we can trust them."

Not entirely sure what point you are making... which company is your
better recommendation? (than this one that has been trading for 40 years)

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mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 15/03/2023 14:54, David wrote:
> > Yeah, yeah, yeah.
> >
> > How many of these have you done recently?
> >
>
> Big bonfire in a grotty old Chiminea. Burnt about 4x A4 printer paper
> boxes (2500 sheets?) of old credit card bills, bank statements and such
> going back over 20 years last week. It took a few hours. Cost nothing
> but time and matches. It was nice to sit on a cold and sunny day in the
> garden with the Memsahib chatting and drinking tea whilst we stoked the
> flames.
>
What (useful) information will be gained from old credit card and bank
statements? If you have ever paid anyone by cheque almost all the
same information will be 'out there' somewhere.

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·

On 15/03/2023 15:44, Andrew wrote:

> That's also the case for blue-bins for household recycling. Shredded
> paper is not allowed simply because of the mess it makes on their
> own manual conveyor sorting lines. Also it gets wrapped around the drums
> that power the driving belts.
>

Yesterday I got the council tax demand letter (up 5.27% on last year)

It came with a glossy booklet that informed me that I COULD put shredded
paper in my blue paper recycling box.

http://www.admac.myzen.co.uk/picture/recycle.png

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