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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 01:05 UTC

Really great.
For me.

I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was given
to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from PMG, where
he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of projects and I
just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works. HFE - 77.
Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I'm about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

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Trevor Wilson wrote:
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>
> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
> found:
>
> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>
> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

...... Phil

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 05:12 UTC

On 6/07/2021 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> Really great.
> For me.
>
> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
> found:
>
> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>
> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was given
> to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from PMG, where
> he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of projects and I
> just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works. HFE - 77.
> Leakage 1.8ma.
>
> Anyway, I'm about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
> weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.
>
> I did find some honkin' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
> computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
> medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth something.
>
> https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q
>
> https://imgur.com/ol35ojz
>
> https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA
>
> The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
> make a good subwoofer motor.

**More treasures:

* An RF Wattmeter. Can anyone make use of it? No use to me. Yours for
the cost of freight.

https://imgur.com/J7LXpqK

*John Fluke Model 301E Voltage calibrator. No idea what I will do with
that thing.

https://imgur.com/zoS6O8Y

http://bee.mif.pg.gda.pl/ciasteczkowypotwor/Fluke/Fluke_1967_Instrument_Catalogue.pdf

*My stash of magnet wire. Plenty of value in the 50kgs of copper, but
it's worth much more for someone who can use it.

https://imgur.com/mlEsJPP

Mostly very fine gauge stuff.

More to come, including:

* A fully valved function generator (sine, triangle and square wave).
Big sucker. Never been used.

* A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.

Except for the 2N301, if anyone is interested in anything, let me know.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 06:17 UTC

On 6/07/2021 1:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> ================
>>
>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>> found:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>
>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
> Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>
> One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.
>
>

**I found some OC28 transistors (mounted on a heat sink), some AD149
transistors and some those ancient, Pommy, black painted glass
transistors (OC71, et al).

Loving the lockdown.

FWIW: My first car (a 1959, FC Holden) was fitted with an Astor (Diamond
Dot) transistor car radio. I can't recall what the output transistor was
(prolly an AD149), but that thing had the sweetest AM radio I've ever
had in a car. Excellent sound quality and good range too. Sold the car
for $50.00. Shoulda kept it. Prolly worth North of 50 Grand today.

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On 6/07/2021 2:17 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 6/07/2021 1:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>>> found:
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>>
>>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> ** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
>> operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
>>      Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>>
>>      One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.
>>
>>
>
> **I found some OC28 transistors (mounted on a heat sink), some AD149
> transistors and some those ancient, Pommy, black painted glass
> transistors (OC71, et al).
>
> Loving the lockdown.
>
> FWIW: My first car (a 1959, FC Holden) was fitted with an Astor (Diamond
> Dot) transistor car radio. I can't recall what the output transistor was
> (prolly an AD149), but that thing had the sweetest AM radio I've ever
> had in a car. Excellent sound quality and good range too. Sold the car
> for $50.00. Shoulda kept it. Prolly worth North of 50 Grand today.

Yup. join the club !!

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 by: Computer Nerd Kev - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:36 UTC

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
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> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.

I'd be interested in that if postage is possible.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:42 UTC

On 6/07/2021 7:36 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
>> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
>> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.
>
> I'd be interested in that if postage is possible.
>

**Sure. It's not a freebie though. Way too useful for someone mucking
about with valve stuff. It's also a big, heavy sucker. 500mm X 500mm X
350mm and weighs in at around 30kgs+. I can freight it. It's a twin,
250VDC (as I recall) power supply. One supply is on the fritz and I
doubt schematics are available, but since the two supplies are
identical, trouble-shooting should not present a massive problem. I'll
get some photos up in a few days.

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 by: Chris Jones - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:01 UTC

On 06/07/2021 19:36, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
>> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
>> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.
>
> I'd be interested in that if postage is possible.
>

I have a single HV supply, valve, with filament supplies, that I'd be
willing to sell to someone who'd use it.

Here are some photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/37778900@N06/albums/72157719515048627

It is nicely built, though purists won't like the modern electrolytics
that I put in it when the old ones failed (after I took the photos).

I don't think I am willing to post it - couriers would almost certainly
drop it and destroy it. It is in Canberra, so perhaps someone patient
could exchange contact details with me now, and buy it later on when
you'd be allowed to and find it convenient to collect it.

I think I'd want more than the scrap metal value for it and a good
explanation of what you want it for, because in the past I've given nice
stuff away and found out afterwards that it was sold for scrap metal
which wasn't my wish.

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On 06/07/2021 15:12, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 6/07/2021 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> Really great.
>> For me.
>>
>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
>> I found:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>
>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
>> given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
>> PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
>> projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
>> HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
>> weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.
>>
>> I did find some honkin' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
>> computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
>> medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
>> something.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q
>>
>> https://imgur.com/ol35ojz
>>
>> https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA
>>
>> The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
>> make a good subwoofer motor.
>
> **More treasures:
>
> * An RF Wattmeter. Can anyone make use of it? No use to me. Yours for
> the cost of freight.
>
> https://imgur.com/J7LXpqK
>
>
> *John Fluke Model 301E Voltage calibrator. No idea what I will do with
> that thing.
>
> https://imgur.com/zoS6O8Y
>
>
> http://bee.mif.pg.gda.pl/ciasteczkowypotwor/Fluke/Fluke_1967_Instrument_Catalogue.pdf
>
>
> *My stash of magnet wire. Plenty of value in the 50kgs of copper, but
> it's worth much more for someone who can use it.
>
> https://imgur.com/mlEsJPP
>
> Mostly very fine gauge stuff.
>
> More to come, including:
>
> * A fully valved function generator (sine, triangle and square wave).
> Big sucker. Never been used.
>
> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.
>
> Except for the 2N301, if anyone is interested in anything, let me know.
>

I might be interested in some or all of the magnet wire, if it
complements what is in my existing hoard. If you happen to be able to
list the diameters / gauges and general insulation type (formvar /
solderable etc), that would help me decide.

By the way I too have some enormous AlNiCo magnets that are in (working)
galvanometers from old Texas Instruments chart recorders - (before
people started putting servo feedback on the mechanism to drive the
pens, so not really competitive with later chart recorders I think). The
magnets are about 15cm across IIRC and certainly very heavy. If someone
has an interesting use for these, let me know, as I haven't used them
after several decades.

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On 6/07/2021 2:17 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 6/07/2021 1:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>>> found:
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>>
>>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> ** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
>> operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
>>      Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>>
>>      One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.
>>
>>
>
> **I found some OC28 transistors (mounted on a heat sink), some AD149
> transistors and some those ancient, Pommy, black painted glass
> transistors (OC71, et al).
>
> Loving the lockdown.
>
> FWIW: My first car (a 1959, FC Holden) was fitted with an Astor (Diamond
> Dot) transistor car radio. I can't recall what the output transistor was
> (prolly an AD149), but that thing had the sweetest AM radio I've ever
> had in a car. Excellent sound quality and good range too. Sold the car
> for $50.00. Shoulda kept it. Prolly worth North of 50 Grand today.

Any Holden with a chrome bumper... hell even some of the the plastic
bumpered models are starting to slowly move in an upward trajectory.

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Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> On 6/07/2021 7:36 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
>>> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
>>> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.
>>
>> I'd be interested in that if postage is possible.
>>
>
> **Sure. It's not a freebie though. Way too useful for someone mucking
> about with valve stuff. It's also a big, heavy sucker. 500mm X 500mm X
> 350mm and weighs in at around 30kgs+. I can freight it.

Quite a beast, 30Kg is going to be over the limit of what Aus Post
will carry. If it's going to be a three-figure courier charge
to get it to me in rural Vic, before we even talk about what you
want for it, then I think I'll leave it. Thanks anyway.

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Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 06/07/2021 19:36, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
>>> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
>>> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.
>>
>> I'd be interested in that if postage is possible.
>>
>
> I have a single HV supply, valve, with filament supplies, that I'd be
> willing to sell to someone who'd use it.
>
> Here are some photos:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/37778900@N06/albums/72157719515048627
>
> It is nicely built, though purists won't like the modern electrolytics
> that I put in it when the old ones failed (after I took the photos).
>
> I don't think I am willing to post it - couriers would almost certainly
> drop it and destroy it. It is in Canberra, so perhaps someone patient
> could exchange contact details with me now, and buy it later on when
> you'd be allowed to and find it convenient to collect it.

Thanks, but I don't imagine myself around Canberra with the
capacity for picking up stuff like that short of a dedicated trip,
which would be a bit much.

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On 06/07/2021 23:30, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 06/07/2021 19:36, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * A twin valve, high Voltage, regulated power supply, with filament
>>>> supplies. One high Voltage supply is on the fritz. Used very
>>>> infrequently since I acquired it in the early 1970s.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in that if postage is possible.
>>>
>>
>> I have a single HV supply, valve, with filament supplies, that I'd be
>> willing to sell to someone who'd use it.
>>
>> Here are some photos:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/37778900@N06/albums/72157719515048627
>>
>> It is nicely built, though purists won't like the modern electrolytics
>> that I put in it when the old ones failed (after I took the photos).
>>
>> I don't think I am willing to post it - couriers would almost certainly
>> drop it and destroy it. It is in Canberra, so perhaps someone patient
>> could exchange contact details with me now, and buy it later on when
>> you'd be allowed to and find it convenient to collect it.
>
> Thanks, but I don't imagine myself around Canberra with the
> capacity for picking up stuff like that short of a dedicated trip,
> which would be a bit much.

If you're patient enough, it's possible I'll drive to Vic again one day,
but no idea when. Sometimes I've been known to go there for work though
usually I fly which would be no good. Remove the "spam" from my email
address on this posting if interested.

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:36 UTC

On 6/7/21 4:17 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 6/07/2021 1:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>>> found:
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>>
>>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> ** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
>> operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
>>      Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>>
>>      One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.
>>
>>
>
> **I found some OC28 transistors (mounted on a heat sink), some AD149
> transistors and some those ancient, Pommy, black painted glass
> transistors (OC71, et al).
>
> Loving the lockdown.
>
> FWIW: My first car (a 1959, FC Holden) was fitted with an Astor (Diamond
> Dot) transistor car radio. I can't recall what the output transistor was
> (prolly an AD149), but that thing had the sweetest AM radio I've ever
> had in a car. Excellent sound quality and good range too. Sold the car
> for $50.00. Shoulda kept it. Prolly worth North of 50 Grand today.

Probably not. You are making one huge assumption here. You imagine the
car would still be in reasonable nick. The reality is that you would
more likely; have worn it out: smashed it up: left it outside to
weather: ETC. Any number of ghastly fates would likely have befallen
that FC. FWIW, it takes quite some effort to keep and maintain a car in
good condition for some 60+ years. Most people would only bother with a
car that had some cachet *from new*, some rare factor, some novel
feature, that ensured it would appreciate in value over time. Sadly, the
venerable FC Holden had none of that.

That said, a former work colleague has a 60s Mustang that he's had
almost from new as well as a Sunbeam Alpine. The Mustang has been
restored once already, I watched his progress on it back in the 90s. The
Alpine, I'm told, is out in the weather and suffering from exposure.
Both those cars have some cachet.

A friend here bought one of the last Ford XR8s. There were 750 in the
last batch and each was individually numbered.

https://www.widelands.org/wlmedia/wlimages/20161115trainingsgebaeude-retouche.png

His is not even one of the rare ones as it is in common old Winter
White. I guess he's hoping it will appreciate as he isn't driving it -
he has an XR6 for a daily driver. The XR8 just sits taking up space in
his 2 car garage.

--

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 22:31 UTC

On 7/07/2021 12:36 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 6/7/21 4:17 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 6/07/2021 1:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> ================
>>>>
>>>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>>>> found:
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>>>
>>>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>>>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
>>> operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
>>>      Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>>>
>>>      One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **I found some OC28 transistors (mounted on a heat sink), some AD149
>> transistors and some those ancient, Pommy, black painted glass
>> transistors (OC71, et al).
>>
>> Loving the lockdown.
>>
>> FWIW: My first car (a 1959, FC Holden) was fitted with an Astor
>> (Diamond Dot) transistor car radio. I can't recall what the output
>> transistor was (prolly an AD149), but that thing had the sweetest AM
>> radio I've ever had in a car. Excellent sound quality and good range
>> too. Sold the car for $50.00. Shoulda kept it. Prolly worth North of
>> 50 Grand today.
>
> Probably not. You are making one huge assumption here.

**Correct. I plucked a figure out of the air, based on what other cars
can fetch. Clearly, the FC (wagon) is not as valuable as I assumed. I
know that my brother's 253 V8, VH Commodore is prolly worth around $20k.
'Cause I checked. And I was surprised.

You imagine the
> car would still be in reasonable nick. The reality is that you would
> more likely; have worn it out: smashed it up: left it outside to
> weather: ETC. Any number of ghastly fates would likely have befallen
> that FC.

**Yep. Which would be sad. It had no rust! In fact, when I was offered
$50.00 for it, I thought I would put into a demolition derby and have
some fun.

FWIW, it takes quite some effort to keep and maintain a car in
> good condition for some 60+ years. Most people would only bother with a
> car that had some cachet *from new*, some rare factor, some novel
> feature, that ensured it would appreciate in value over time. Sadly, the
> venerable FC Holden had none of that.

**True enough.

[Anecdote] One of my clients is a (recently retired) financial advisor.
He would typically visit me in a shitbox Merc SL450. Then, one day, he
piqued my interest, when he rolled up in an Aston Martin DB5 (British
Racing Green - of course). He bought it back in 1970 for bugger-all. It
was a bit tired, but in good nick overall. He spent $75k doing it up. I
checked the value on thing and told him:

"I betcha that DB5 has outperformed any investment you've ever made or
advised your clients to make."

He agreed.

He sold the Merc and his daily drive is a new Mustang. Urk.

>
> That said, a former work colleague has a 60s Mustang that he's had
> almost from new as well as a Sunbeam Alpine. The Mustang has been
> restored once already, I watched his progress on it back in the 90s. The
> Alpine, I'm told, is out in the weather and suffering from exposure.
> Both those cars have some cachet.

**Indeed. My mechanic drives a '67 Mustang.

>
> A friend here bought one of the last Ford XR8s. There were 750 in the
> last batch and each was individually numbered.
>
> https://www.widelands.org/wlmedia/wlimages/20161115trainingsgebaeude-retouche.png
>
>
> His is not even one of the rare ones as it is in common old Winter
> White. I guess he's hoping it will appreciate as he isn't driving it -
> he has an XR6 for a daily driver. The XR8 just sits taking up space in
> his 2 car garage.

**Hard to know which cars are going to appreciate.

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On 7/07/2021 8:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

> [Anecdote] One of my clients is a (recently retired) financial advisor.
> He would typically visit me in a shitbox Merc SL450. Then, one day, he
> piqued my interest, when he rolled up in an Aston Martin DB5 (British
> Racing Green - of course). He bought it back in 1970 for bugger-all. It
> was a bit tired, but in good nick overall. He spent $75k doing it up. I
> checked the value on thing and told him:
>
> "I betcha that DB5 has outperformed any investment you've ever made or
> advised your clients to make."
>
> He agreed.

The drummer from Pink Floyd bought a Ferrari 250GTO for 25K ponds with
some of his earnings from "Dark side of the moon". Probably worth 1000
times that now.

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keithr0 wrote on 7/7/21 4:38 pm:
> On 7/07/2021 8:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> [Anecdote] One of my clients is a (recently retired) financial
>> advisor. He would typically visit me in a shitbox Merc SL450. Then,
>> one day, he piqued my interest, when he rolled up in an Aston Martin
>> DB5 (British Racing Green - of course). He bought it back in 1970 for
>> bugger-all. It was a bit tired, but in good nick overall. He spent
>> $75k doing it up. I checked the value on thing and told him:
>>
>> "I betcha that DB5 has outperformed any investment you've ever made or
>> advised your clients to make."
>>
>> He agreed.
>
> The drummer from Pink Floyd bought a Ferrari 250GTO for 25K ponds with
> some of his earnings from "Dark side of the moon". Probably worth 1000
> times that now.

Yes, "Dark side of the Moon" was/is a great album!! ;-P
--
Daniel

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 by: Sylvia Else - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 01:31 UTC

On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> Really great.
> For me.
>
> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
> found:
>
> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>
> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was given
> to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from PMG, where
> he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of projects and I
> just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works. HFE - 77.
> Leakage 1.8ma.
>
> Anyway, I'm about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
> weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.
>
> I did find some honkin' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
> computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
> medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth something.
>
> https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q
>
> https://imgur.com/ol35ojz
>
> https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA
>
> The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
> make a good subwoofer motor.

Rate things are going, and with the gov'ment unwilling to impose greater
restrictions, we'll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

I'll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
after I get my second AZ jab in August.

One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

Sylvia.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 02:34 UTC

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> Really great.
>> For me.
>>
>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
>> I found:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>
>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
>> given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
>> PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
>> projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
>> HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
>> weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.
>>
>> I did find some honkin' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
>> computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
>> medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
>> something.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q
>>
>> https://imgur.com/ol35ojz
>>
>> https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA
>>
>> The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
>> make a good subwoofer motor.
>
> Rate things are going, and with the gov'ment unwilling to impose greater
> restrictions, we'll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

**They're idiots. Shoulda locked down a week earlier. The half-arsed
lockdown is just dumb.

>
> I'll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
> after I get my second AZ jab in August.

**Snap! Mine is due on the 11th Aug.

> One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
> show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

**I don't drink much anymore.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 02:45 UTC

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
>
> **I don't drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:18 UTC

On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>> **I don't drink much anymore.
>
> I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin' hearts took away my
> Xanax to protect my health.
>
> Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 12:26 UTC

On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>
>>> **I don't drink much anymore.
>>
>> I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin' hearts took away my
>> Xanax to protect my health.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> **Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

Might have to - said booze didn't show. The courier claimed "receiver
unavailable" which I think is code for "didn't want to get out of his
truck in the rain and dark."

Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn't happen, I'm
quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.

Sylvia.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:20 UTC

On 9/07/2021 10:26 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>
>>>> **I don't drink much anymore.
>>>
>>> I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin' hearts took away
>>> my Xanax to protect my health.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> **Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.
>
> Might have to - said booze didn't show. The courier claimed "receiver
> unavailable" which I think is code for "didn't want to get out of his
> truck in the rain and dark."
>
> Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn't happen, I'm
> quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.
>
> Sylvia.

**This guy is quite a good way to start:

https://www.headspace.com/meditation/meditation-for-beginners

MUCH cheaper and far less mystical than TM*. First few lessons are
free, but then you pay. Costs are, IMO, reasonable, but you may find
good results with your local Buddhist temple:

https://www.nantien.org.au/en/retreats

Personally, I prefer my meditation without the religious claptrap. That
said, the people at the Nantien temple are very nice, if not deluded
(like all religious people).

* Transcendental Meditation. HUGE rip-off.

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On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

>Trevor Wilson wrote:
>================
>>
>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>> found:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>
>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
> Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>
> One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can't
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn't understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he'd restored..
>
>
>..... Phil
>
>
>

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 18:50 UTC

On 12/07/2021 4:16 am, R Souls wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
> <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> I've been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
>>> found:
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh
>>>
>>> My very first power transistor (if you don't count the AC128 that came
>>> with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> ** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
>> Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.
>>
>> One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.
>
> I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can't
> remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
> 1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
> the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn't understand why
> it took half a minute to warm up.
>
> I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
> his 1959 Hillman Minx he'd restored..

**"Warm up"? Must have been a valve model. ALL SS ones are instant on.
Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I'm joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

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