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* What should an assault with a deadly cyclist merit?Spike
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Subject: What should an assault with a deadly cyclist merit?
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 14:52:08 +0000
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 by: Spike - Mon, 2 May 2022 14:52 UTC

An 80-year-old was beaten to the ground by a cyclist for walking on the
pavement.

<https://www.hampshirelive.news/news/hampshire-news/southampton-cyclist-kicks-pedestrian-80-7005781>

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Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.

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Subject: Re: What should an assault with a deadly cyclist merit?
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 by: Spike - Tue, 3 May 2022 17:20 UTC

On 03/05/2022 16:59, Mike Collins wrote:

> Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.

Not if the cyclist was the one (ab)using himself.

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 by: Mike Collins - Wed, 4 May 2022 03:28 UTC

On Tuesday, 3 May 2022 at 18:20:28 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 16:59, Mike Collins wrote:
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> > Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.
> Not if the cyclist was the one (ab)using himself.
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> Spike

That does not make any sense. You said 'Assault with a deadly cyclist' implying a cyclist (not a pedal cycle) was used by someone as a weapon. The innocent cyclist would be just as much a victim as the victim of the assault.

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 4 May 2022 07:46 UTC

On 03/05/2022 05:59 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.

<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gibberish>

HTH.

No charge.

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 4 May 2022 07:48 UTC

On 04/05/2022 04:28 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Tuesday, 3 May 2022 at 18:20:28 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 03/05/2022 16:59, Mike Collins wrote:

>>> Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.
>> Not if the cyclist was the one (ab)using himself.

> That does not make any sense. You said 'Assault with a deadly cyclist' implying a cyclist (not a pedal cycle) was used by someone as a weapon. The innocent cyclist would be just as much a victim as the victim of the assault.

What is an "innocent cyclist" [sic]?

That does not make any sense.

Very few fairy-cyclists ride their fairy-bikes lawfully (or even have
an intention of trying).

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Subject: Re: What should an assault with a deadly cyclist merit?
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 by: Spike - Wed, 4 May 2022 08:12 UTC

On 04/05/2022 03:28, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 May 2022 at 18:20:28 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 03/05/2022 16:59, Mike Collins wrote:

>>> Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.

>> Not if the cyclist was the one (ab)using himself.

> That does not make any sense.

Oh yes it does...

You said 'Assault with a deadly cyclist' implying a cyclist (not a pedal
cycle) was used by someone as a weapon. The innocent cyclist would be
just as much a victim as the victim of the assault.

Nice try. But larding in the words "used by someone" was a straw man
inserted by you as a rather transparent attempt to deflect the
discussion. It didn't work.

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Spike

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On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 08:46:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 05:59 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.
> <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gibberish>
>
> HTH.
>
> No charge.

"I'm not going to click on that link" JNugent(s).

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 4 May 2022 09:10 UTC

On 04/05/2022 09:43 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Wednesday, 4 May 2022 at 08:46:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 03/05/2022 05:59 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>
>>> Someone would have to use a cyclist as a deadly weapon. By definition the cyclist victim would be in no way criminally involved.

>> <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gibberish>
>> HTH.
>> No charge.

> "I'm not going to click on that link" JNugent(s).

It's a reputable dictionary website.

If you don't trust it though, fair enough.

The point, however, was already fairly transparent without the necessity
of clicking the link.

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