can you listen to AM radio in an electric car

Am 20.03.2023 um 18:29:10 Uhr schrieb Jim gm4dhj ...:

> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car

It seems that there are electric cars that have AM bands, but not all
include it.

On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car

is that 'AM as in cockney for 'HAM' or do you mean
Amplitude Modulation ? :-)

On 20/03/2023 19:20, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 20.03.2023 um 18:29:10 Uhr schrieb Jim gm4dhj ...:
>
>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>
> It seems that there are electric cars that have AM bands, but not all
> include it.
>
I have no idea if my 2009 non electric car has it.
I simply have no use for it whatsoever

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On 20/03/2023 20:00, Andrew wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>
> is that 'AM as in cockney for 'HAM' or do you mean
> Amplitude Modulation ? :-)
What he means is long/medium wave. And maybe short wave commercial
broadcasts. In the US that's 'AM'

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On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:

> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car

I can't listen to it anywhere...

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On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>
>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>
> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>
>

Why not?

Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> Am 20.03.2023 um 18:29:10 Uhr schrieb Jim gm4dhj ...:
>
> > can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>
> It seems that there are electric cars that have AM bands, but not all
> include it.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/03/the-2024-ford-mustang-is-the-next-car-to-lose-am-radio/

On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>
>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>
>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>
>>
>
> Why not?

Crap audio quality!

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On 20/03/2023 20:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 19:20, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 20.03.2023 um 18:29:10 Uhr schrieb Jim gm4dhj ...:
>>
>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>
>> It seems that there are electric cars that have AM bands, but not all
>> include it.
>>
> I have no idea if my 2009 non electric car has it.
> I simply have no use for it whatsoever
>
> Incapable of anything approaching reasonable music reproduction,
but plenty of atmosphere ...reproduction isn't everything

On 20/03/2023 22:29, Theo wrote:
> Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
>> Am 20.03.2023 um 18:29:10 Uhr schrieb Jim gm4dhj ...:
>>
>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>
>> It seems that there are electric cars that have AM bands, but not all
>> include it.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/03/the-2024-ford-mustang-is-the-next-car-to-lose-am-radio/
>
anybody who buys an electric mustang is a twat anyway...who cares

On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>
>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>
>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Why not?
>
> Crap audio quality!
>
>
well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all
there is to listen to....DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave

Interesting subject.
I'd have thought most these days were dab and fm and sometimes even
internet. Most cars can be surprised of course as its relatively easy for
electric cars, but if you get stuck in some built up area in a car with AM
and want to listen to anything, the noise from the general area makes it
almost impossible. I know this having been a passenger many times.

Brian

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> Am 20.03.2023 um 18:29:10 Uhr schrieb Jim gm4dhj ...:
>
>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>
> It seems that there are electric cars that have AM bands, but not all
> include it.
>

On 3/21/2023 2:24 AM, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
> On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>>
>>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>> Crap audio quality!
>>
>>
> well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all there is to listen to....DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave

The major car companies, have extensive product test,
including emissions and susceptibility testing.

The band from 35MHz and up, is covered by a different standards
doc, than 150KHz to 35Mhz. The lower band spec is "advisory".

They can't afford for the computers in the car to crash,
due to the computers receiving emissions from the electric
motors and the 150kW inverter drive for those motors.

And so the car companies are on your side, when it comes
to emissions. They want the emissions to go away, just
like you do.

And at least one car company executive, admitted "we're not
a BEV company yet, and there are areas we need to improve".
So even if the car you test drive today, fails your AM radio
test, it might pass five years from now. The thing is, there
are several motor types, and in some cars with multiple motors,
the motors are not even the same type (one motor can be for
highway, the other motor more for city driving).

The car industry had gone through bad eras before, such as
when CDI came out for ignition. And when they were using
the wrong kind of wires for the wire to the spark plugs.
Today, even the spark plugs on ICE have been redesigned, for a
better ignition effect (but likely, with no change to emissions).

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/can-transient-plasma-ignition-save-the-internal-combustion-engine

Paul

On 21/03/2023 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Interesting subject.
> I'd have thought most these days were dab and fm and sometimes even
> internet. Most cars can be surprised of course as its relatively easy for
> electric cars, but if you get stuck in some built up area in a car with AM
> and want to listen to anything, the noise from the general area makes it
> almost impossible. I know this having been a passenger many times.
>
> Brian
>
try coming to Scotland without AM

On 21/03/2023 09:13, Paul wrote:
> On 3/21/2023 2:24 AM, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>> On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>>>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> Crap audio quality!
>>>
>>>
>> well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all
>> there is to listen to....DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave
>
> The major car companies, have extensive product test,
> including emissions and susceptibility testing.
>
> The band from 35MHz and up, is covered by a different standards
> doc, than 150KHz to 35Mhz. The lower band spec is "advisory".
>
> They can't afford for the computers in the car to crash,
> due to the computers receiving emissions from the electric
> motors and the 150kW inverter drive for those motors.
>
> And so the car companies are on your side, when it comes
> to emissions. They want the emissions to go away, just
> like you do.
>
> And at least one car company executive, admitted "we're not
> a BEV company yet, and there are areas we need to improve".
> So even if the car you test drive today, fails your AM radio
> test, it might pass five years from now. The thing is, there
> are several motor types, and in some cars with multiple motors,
> the motors are not even the same type (one motor can be for
> highway, the other motor more for city driving).
>
> The car industry had gone through bad eras before, such as
> when CDI came out for ignition. And when they were using
> the wrong kind of wires for the wire to the spark plugs.
> Today, even the spark plugs on ICE have been redesigned, for a
> better ignition effect (but likely, with no change to emissions).
>
> https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/can-transient-plasma-ignition-save-the-internal-combustion-engine
>
>
>    Paul
what a load of mince

On 21/03/2023 06:24, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
> On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>>
>>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>> Crap audio quality!
>>
>>
> well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all
> there is to listen to....DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave

Do CDs / Digital media files not work at that latitude?

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On 21/03/2023 10:42, John Rumm wrote:
> On 21/03/2023 06:24, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>> On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>>>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> Crap audio quality!
>>>
>>>
>> well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all
>> there is to listen to....DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave
>
> Do CDs / Digital media files not work at that latitude?
>
>
not as a radio

In article <tvbspk$1sa4$1@dont-email.me>, jim.gm4dhj
<kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On 21/03/2023 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
> > Interesting subject. I'd have thought most these days were dab and fm
> > and sometimes even internet. Most cars can be surprised of course as
> > its relatively easy for electric cars, but if you get stuck in some
> > built up area in a car with AM and want to listen to anything, the
> > noise from the general area makes it almost impossible. I know this
> > having been a passenger many times.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> try coming to Scotland without AM

easy as far north as Perth - done it.

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AM goes further which is why the yanks still use it
because of the distances involved

Andrew

On 21/03/2023 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Interesting subject.
> I'd have thought most these days were dab and fm and sometimes even
> internet. Most cars can be surprised of course as its relatively easy for
> electric cars, but if you get stuck in some built up area in a car with AM
> and want to listen to anything, the noise from the general area makes it
> almost impossible. I know this having been a passenger many times.
>
> Brian
>

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:24:05 +1100, jim.gm4dhj <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>>
>>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not?
>> Crap audio quality!
>>
> well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all
> there is to listen to....

Your problem, as always.

> DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave

AM isnt long wave.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:18:44 +1100, jim.gm4dhj <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> On 21/03/2023 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> Interesting subject.
>> I'd have thought most these days were dab and fm and sometimes even
>> internet. Most cars can be surprised of course as its relatively easy
>> for
>> electric cars, but if you get stuck in some built up area in a car with
>> AM
>> and want to listen to anything, the noise from the general area makes
>> it
>> almost impossible. I know this having been a passenger many times.
>> Brian
>>
> try coming to Scotland without AM

Just like Botswana.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:42:04 +1100, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:

> On 21/03/2023 06:24, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
>> On 21/03/2023 01:19, John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 20/03/2023 21:33, GB wrote:
>>>> On 20/03/2023 20:49, John Rumm wrote:
>>>>> On 20/03/2023 18:29, Jim gm4dhj ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can you listen to AM radio in an electric car
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't listen to it anywhere...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> Crap audio quality!
>>>
>>>
>> well try driving in some parts of the near of Scotland and it is all
>> there is to listen to....DAB goes first then FM ......we need long wave
>
> Do CDs / Digital media files not work at that latitude?

He's too stupid to work out how to use them.

He keeps looking for the pickup arm for the CD player.

Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
> AM goes further which is why the yanks still use it
> because of the distances involved
>

Last rental car I had in the US (about 10 years ago now) had satellite
radio.

Tim

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On 3/21/2023 10:58 AM, Andrew wrote:
> AM goes further which is why the yanks still use it
> because of the distances involved
>
> Andrew

They still have some of those stations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_50_kW_AM_radio_stations_in_the_United_States

And you might be able to find those on Internet Radio as well,
if you wanted to figure out what genre the station is.

Paul

>
> On 21/03/2023 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> Interesting subject.
>>   I'd have thought most these days were dab and fm and sometimes even
>> internet. Most cars can be surprised of course as its relatively easy for
>> electric cars, but if you get stuck in some built up area in a car with AM
>> and want to listen to anything, the noise from  the general area makes it
>> almost impossible. I know this having been a passenger many times.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>