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* mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?bilsch01
+- Re: mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?Chris Hogg
+- Re: mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?Martin Brown
`* Re: mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?Bob Hobden
 `* Re: mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?Derek
  `* Re: mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?Martin Brown
   `- Re: mixing old coffee grounds in garden soil?Stewart Robert Hinsley

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 by: bilsch01 - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 05:09 UTC

Some people say mixing old coffee grounds into garden soil makes it
better for growing plants. Is this actually a good organic enhancement
for the garden soil?

TIA Bill S.

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 by: Chris Hogg - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 06:27 UTC

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 22:09:04 -0700, bilsch01 <nobody@always.com>
wrote:

>Some people say mixing old coffee grounds into garden soil makes it
>better for growing plants. Is this actually a good organic enhancement
>for the garden soil?
>
>TIA Bill S.

I always scatter my used coffee grounds on the soil, simply on the
basis that they will eventually rot down over time (unspecified) and
contribute to the organic content of the soil, which must be a good
thing (mustn't it?). Some say it deters slugs. I have no opinion.

Plenty of stuff here, both pro and con by the look of it. I've not
read any of it. https://tinyurl.com/yeapd4rf

--
Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall, very mild, sheltered
from the West, but open to the North and East.

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From: '''newsp...@nonad.co.uk (Martin Brown)
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 by: Martin Brown - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:04 UTC

On 29/04/2021 06:09, bilsch01 wrote:
> Some people say mixing old coffee grounds into garden soil makes it
> better for growing plants. Is this actually a good organic enhancement
> for the garden soil?

It is marginally effective at keeping slugs off softer plants and rots
down to organic fines with time. Caffeine is moderately toxic to slugs
and snails and the texture is not to their liking either.

Unless you have a serious coffee habit or access to the backdoor of a
coffee shop it would be a very expensive soil improver.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

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 by: Bob Hobden - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:29 UTC

On 28 Apr 2021 22:09, bilsch01 wrote:
> Some people say mixing old coffee grounds into garden soil makes it
> better for growing plants. Is this actually a good organic enhancement
> for the garden soil?
>

Always pour the grounds around my more tender (slug wise) plants and it
does appear to have some effect in keeping them off.

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Bob Hobden

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 by: Derek - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:38 UTC

>> Some people say mixing old coffee grounds into garden soil makes it
>> better for growing plants.

Should be used with great care, Coffee plants exclude a substances
that inhibits seedling growth, this is their way of making sure their
seedlings have a better chance of survival
James Wong of GQT did a number of experiments a few years ago and
proved that coffee grounds are not good for the soil

A few handfuls mixed in with the compost heap will not be a problem,
but a sack full for the local coffee shop would be

Last week's GQT had this as its second question,

As for it stops slugs, plenty of videos showing that it does not stop
them, easy to see why, slugs travel on the mucus they produce, so
nothing stops them accept a water barrier, (and even then they may go
under it)

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From: '''newsp...@nonad.co.uk (Martin Brown)
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 by: Martin Brown - Sun, 2 May 2021 10:03 UTC

On 30/04/2021 21:38, Derek wrote:
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>>> Some people say mixing old coffee grounds into garden soil makes it
>>> better for growing plants.
>
> Should be used with great care, Coffee plants exclude a substances
> that inhibits seedling growth, this is their way of making sure their
> seedlings have a better chance of survival
> James Wong of GQT did a number of experiments a few years ago and
> proved that coffee grounds are not good for the soil

That seems a bit OTT.

Inhibiting unwanted seedlings could be a benefit from using coffee
grounds like that. Foxglove, poppy and annual weed seedlings are too
plentiful as it is - a bit of inhibiting is not a problem.

The only common UK plant I can think of that seriously causes problems
is walnut which really does have a potent anti competition compound in
its roots called juglone.
>
> A few handfuls mixed in with the compost heap will not be a problem,
> but a sack full for the local coffee shop would be
>
> Last week's GQT had this as its second question,
>
> As for it stops slugs, plenty of videos showing that it does not stop
> them, easy to see why, slugs travel on the mucus they produce, so
> nothing stops them accept a water barrier, (and even then they may go
> under it)

Although there are it is still better than nothing and relatively
harmless to everything else.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

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 by: Stewart Robert Hinsl - Sun, 2 May 2021 22:19 UTC

On 02/05/2021 11:03, Martin Brown wrote:
> The only common UK plant I can think of that seriously causes problems
> is walnut which really does have a potent anti competition compound in
> its roots called juglone.

Garlic mustard is reportedly a problem in the US because of its chemical
warfare against other plants (or rather against symbiotic fungi);
presumably European ecosystem have adapted to cope. (In the US garlic
mustard can take over forest floors; here, in my experience, it is a
plant of woodland edges, including hedgerows.)

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