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* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without it burstingStephen Packer
+* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without it bursting into flames.wessie
|+- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itStephen Packer
|`* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itsiwilson
| `- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itStephen Packer
+* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without it bursting into flames.Mark Olson
|`* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itChrisND @UKRM
| `* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itStephen Packer
|  +- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itsiwilson
|  `- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itChrisND @UKRM
+* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without it bursting into flames.Champ
|+* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itsiwilson
||`* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without it bursting into flames.Champ
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||    `- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itTurby
|`* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without it bursting into flames.Ace
| `* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itMike Fleming
|  +- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itAndy Burns
|  `- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itPaul Carmichael
+* Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itMike Fleming
|`- Suggestions for fixing duff Lithium Battery... without itChrisND @UKRM
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 by: Stephen Packer - Tue, 12 Apr 2022 07:41 UTC

On Saturday, 9 April 2022 at 21:13:15 UTC+1, siwilson wrote:
> On 07/04/2022 17:38, Stephen Packer wrote:

> > Apart from 'just buy another battery you tight cunt' (I've already done this
> > but it's not really the point anymore).
> I've just had a quick look at Makita prices. They seem to have gone up
> quite a lot. A 5Ah 18v battery is over 70 quid now :(

I paid 145 for a 6Ah 36v Bosch one so the pricing's quite similar (I did
have to search, a few places wanted over 200 quid).

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 by: Boots - Mon, 30 May 2022 03:26 UTC

On 12/04/2022 03:07 Ace penned these words:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>
> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no? I replaced the one in
> my ride-on mower a few years ago, having got through several more
> traditional lead-acid ones that died from lack of use/charging over
> several winters. The latest one holds charge for months and has lasted
> me about five years so far with minimal recharging required. It
> started fine a couple of weeks ago, having been unused since October.
>
>
Just got back after ~50 days, I'd disconnected the car and big bike battery
because they have clocks etc which would drain them over time. Reconnected they
both fired up first time, the little step-thru didn't bother nothing to drain
it, had to kick it over enthusiastically for 5 minutes or so but the battery was
fine, it has always been a sod to start if left > a week or so.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

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 by: Turby - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:28 UTC

On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>
> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?

Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was. Oh well.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

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 by: wessie - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:52 UTC

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:t7ahfa$901$1@dont-email.me:

> On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>>
>> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?
>
> Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
> ~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was. Oh
> well.
>
>

OE battery is a Yuasa or Exide AGM[1] (absorbed glass mat) which is a
sealed for life, valve reguataed, lead acid battery.

[1] YTX14BS or YTZ14S after 2009.

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 by: siwilson - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 15:24 UTC

On 02/06/2022 15:28, Turby wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>>
>> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?
>
> Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
> ~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was. Oh well.
>
>

Notes from a small island.

It's partially dismantled now and off to Oxford next week for its safety
recall work. Parts are on their way to fix the fuel gauge and then if I
can get the paperwork sorted with a bit of luck I may be able to have a
ride on it before the end of the year.

I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" - did you
know that?

--
/Simon

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 by: Turby - Thu, 2 Jun 2022 23:40 UTC

On 6/2/2022 8:24 AM, siwilson wrote:
> On 02/06/2022 15:28, Turby wrote:
>> On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>>>
>>> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?
>>
>> Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
>> ~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was. Oh
>> well.
>>
>>
>
> Notes from a small island.
>
> It's partially dismantled now and off to Oxford next week for its safety
> recall work. Parts are on their way to fix the fuel gauge and then if I
> can get the paperwork sorted with a bit of luck I may be able to have a
> ride on it before the end of the year.
>
> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" - did you
> know that?
>
No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much work I
had to put in getting my leg over.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

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 by: siwilson - Fri, 3 Jun 2022 08:54 UTC

On 03/06/2022 00:40, Turby wrote:
> On 6/2/2022 8:24 AM, siwilson wrote:
>> On 02/06/2022 15:28, Turby wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>>>>
>>>> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?
>>>
>>> Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
>>> ~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was. Oh
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Notes from a small island.
>>
>> It's partially dismantled now and off to Oxford next week for its
>> safety recall work. Parts are on their way to fix the fuel gauge and
>> then if I can get the paperwork sorted with a bit of luck I may be
>> able to have a ride on it before the end of the year.
>>
>> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" - did
>> you know that?
>>
> No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much work I
> had to put in getting my leg over.
>
>

Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work what
they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails, suspension maybe.

--
/Simon

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 by: wessie - Fri, 3 Jun 2022 09:43 UTC

siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
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>>> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" - did
>>> you know that?
>>>
>> No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much
>> work I had to put in getting my leg over.
>>
>>
>
>
> Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work what
> they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails, suspension
> maybe.
>

low seat just means the same seat pan with less foam

the BMW part embossed on the seat pan will be the same on each bike. The
actual finished seat part no. is on a sticker that has probably fallen
off by now.

Lowered suspension will be listed separately.

I have a lowered suspension S1000XR and the VIN decode says:

X0776 Driver's Seat Low [1]
X0499 Lowering

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/ is the place for technical queries - no
need to pay a sub to see the technical section but if you do subscribe,
you will see the "virtual pub" where Bonwick hangs out.

[1] no longer fitted as the previous owner fitted the posh �400 HP seat

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 by: Mark Olson - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 04:17 UTC

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:t7ahfa$901$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>>>
>>> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?
>>
>> Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
>> ~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was. Oh
>> well.
>>
>>
>
> OE battery is a Yuasa or Exide AGM[1] (absorbed glass mat) which is a
> sealed for life, valve reguataed, lead acid battery.
>
>
> [1] YTX14BS or YTZ14S after 2009.

Actually, the OEM (for my '07) is a YUASA GT14B4. The -BS batteries are
similar but "BS" suffix means "bottle supplied" according the friendly
parts guy at the Yamaha dealer, and this means you have to fill and seal
the dry charged battery yourself and give it an initial charge. I figure
the factory sealed ones might last longer...

I've just bought the OEM factory sealed unit from partzilla.com. $133.75
including tax & shipping.

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, Vespa Ciao

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 by: sweller - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 05:31 UTC

wessie wrote:

> > Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work
> > what they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails,
> > suspension maybe.
>
> low seat just means the same seat pan with less foam

You may know...

My 2003 BMW 1150GSA is lowered and a royal PITA to get on the
centrestand.

I'm guessing it's aftermarket and would be - probably - Touratech.
What do the kits consist of?

The PO had it from 18 months old and rode it from Alaska to Argentina
and did not penny pinch
on it.

It's dripping in Touratech parts, Wilbers shocks etc. The last service
at 171K was done by the main dealer.

Poor bloke had a stroke and couldn't ride it anymore so I had it off
him.

Anyway, question is - how do I unlower it and would those parts have
any value?

--
Simon

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 by: wessie - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 08:52 UTC

Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:t7embt$bu9$2@dont-email.me:

> wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>> Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:t7ahfa$901$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 4/11/2022 12:07 PM, Ace wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:39:40 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember what kind of battery my BMW-GS uses,
>>>>
>>>> I imagine it would be a gel lead-acid one, no?
>>>
>>> Stefan put a new one in. I just got home from a month+ of riding it
>>> ~3800 miles, and I never bothered to look to see what kind it was.
>>> Oh well.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OE battery is a Yuasa or Exide AGM[1] (absorbed glass mat) which is a
>> sealed for life, valve reguataed, lead acid battery.
>>
>>
>> [1] YTX14BS or YTZ14S after 2009.
>
> Actually, the OEM (for my '07) is a YUASA GT14B4. The -BS batteries
> are similar but "BS" suffix means "bottle supplied" according the
> friendly parts guy at the Yamaha dealer, and this means you have to
> fill and seal the dry charged battery yourself and give it an initial
> charge. I figure the factory sealed ones might last longer...
>
> I've just bought the OEM factory sealed unit from partzilla.com.
> $133.75 including tax & shipping.
>

we don't have any bottle supplied batteries at retail now as battery
acid is no longer retailed. I imagine they are still made but have to be
filled by the wholesaler.

I have not heard of any anecdotal evidence to support your hypothesis
about longevity.

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 by: wessie - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 09:06 UTC

"sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in news:jg0913F8jlmU1
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>
> Anyway, question is - how do I unlower it and would those parts have
> any value?
>

open a thread at UKGSer as I had a quick look and there seems to be a
number of bodg^^^^adjustments mentioned from shorter springs to shorter
shocks.

there's a separate section for the oilhead 1100/1150
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/7-850-1100-1150-Oilheads

you should be able to access that section and search the threads without
registering. See the "search forum" button above the list of threads. This
allows you to search just that section.

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 by: Boots - Sat, 4 Jun 2022 09:37 UTC

On 04/06/2022 16:52 wessie penned these words:
> Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in

>> I figure the factory sealed ones might last longer...
>>
>> I've just bought the OEM factory sealed unit from partzilla.com.
>> $133.75 including tax & shipping.
>>
>
>
> we don't have any bottle supplied batteries at retail now as battery
> acid is no longer retailed. I imagine they are still made but have to be
> filled by the wholesaler.
>
> I have not heard of any anecdotal evidence to support your hypothesis
> about longevity.

I bought a new battery last year online here, came with the separate bottle of
acid. Less nanny state I guess.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

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 by: siwilson - Sun, 5 Jun 2022 09:05 UTC

On 03/06/2022 10:43, wessie wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:jfu0hhFr9cjU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>
>>>> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" - did
>>>> you know that?
>>>>
>>> No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much
>>> work I had to put in getting my leg over.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work what
>> they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails, suspension
>> maybe.
>>
>
> low seat just means the same seat pan with less foam
>
> the BMW part embossed on the seat pan will be the same on each bike. The
> actual finished seat part no. is on a sticker that has probably fallen
> off by now.
>
> Lowered suspension will be listed separately.
>
> I have a lowered suspension S1000XR and the VIN decode says:
>
> X0776 Driver's Seat Low [1]
> X0499 Lowering
>
> https://www.ukgser.com/forums/ is the place for technical queries - no
> need to pay a sub to see the technical section but if you do subscribe,
> you will see the "virtual pub" where Bonwick hangs out.
>
>
> [1] no longer fitted as the previous owner fitted the posh Ł400 HP seat

Thanks, indeed it does seem to be just thinner seat foam for around 30mm
lower.

Further decoding of the VIN reveals it's got ESA suspension which I
suspects = expensive bills to replace or refurbish the shocks if
required. Am I right in thinking it just adjusts the preload, or does it
change the damping instead/also?

--
/Simon

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siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:jg39udFnu4gU1@mid.individual.net:

> On 03/06/2022 10:43, wessie wrote:
>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:jfu0hhFr9cjU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>
>>>>> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" -
>>>>> did you know that?
>>>>>
>>>> No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much
>>>> work I had to put in getting my leg over.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work
>>> what they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails,
>>> suspension maybe.
>>>
>>
>> low seat just means the same seat pan with less foam
>>
>> the BMW part embossed on the seat pan will be the same on each bike.
>> The actual finished seat part no. is on a sticker that has probably
>> fallen off by now.
>>
>> Lowered suspension will be listed separately.
>>
>> I have a lowered suspension S1000XR and the VIN decode says:
>>
>> X0776 Driver's Seat Low [1]
>> X0499 Lowering
>>
>> https://www.ukgser.com/forums/ is the place for technical queries -
>> no need to pay a sub to see the technical section but if you do
>> subscribe, you will see the "virtual pub" where Bonwick hangs out.
>>
>>
>> [1] no longer fitted as the previous owner fitted the posh Ł400 HP
>> seat
>
>
> Thanks, indeed it does seem to be just thinner seat foam for around
> 30mm lower.
>
> Further decoding of the VIN reveals it's got ESA suspension which I
> suspects = expensive bills to replace or refurbish the shocks if
> required. Am I right in thinking it just adjusts the preload, or does
> it change the damping instead/also?
>

What year is the bike? I can't remember how sophisticated the ESA system
was on earlier bikes.

I have ESA on my bikes, both 2016. I can adjust preload - the engine has
to be running but stationary. 3 settings indicated by little graphics of
a head and suitcase. 1 head, 1 head + luggage, 2 heads.
I can adjust damping whilst riding. The GS will have extra options but I
can choose a softer, foxed damping "road" mode or the "dynamic" mode
that adjusts the suspension on the fly. The GS will have an off road
mode.

As for repairs, there are a couple of companies that will refurbish the
ESA units. Again, UKGSer will provide details if needed. They seem quite
robust as I don't read about many failures.

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On 05/06/2022 10:24, wessie wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:jg39udFnu4gU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 03/06/2022 10:43, wessie wrote:
>>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:jfu0hhFr9cjU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" -
>>>>>> did you know that?
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much
>>>>> work I had to put in getting my leg over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work
>>>> what they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails,
>>>> suspension maybe.
>>>>
>>>
>>> low seat just means the same seat pan with less foam
>>>
>>> the BMW part embossed on the seat pan will be the same on each bike.
>>> The actual finished seat part no. is on a sticker that has probably
>>> fallen off by now.
>>>
>>> Lowered suspension will be listed separately.
>>>
>>> I have a lowered suspension S1000XR and the VIN decode says:
>>>
>>> X0776 Driver's Seat Low [1]
>>> X0499 Lowering
>>>
>>> https://www.ukgser.com/forums/ is the place for technical queries -
>>> no need to pay a sub to see the technical section but if you do
>>> subscribe, you will see the "virtual pub" where Bonwick hangs out.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] no longer fitted as the previous owner fitted the posh Ł400 HP
>>> seat
>>
>>
>> Thanks, indeed it does seem to be just thinner seat foam for around
>> 30mm lower.
>>
>> Further decoding of the VIN reveals it's got ESA suspension which I
>> suspects = expensive bills to replace or refurbish the shocks if
>> required. Am I right in thinking it just adjusts the preload, or does
>> it change the damping instead/also?
>>
>
> What year is the bike? I can't remember how sophisticated the ESA system
> was on earlier bikes.
>
> I have ESA on my bikes, both 2016. I can adjust preload - the engine has
> to be running but stationary. 3 settings indicated by little graphics of
> a head and suitcase. 1 head, 1 head + luggage, 2 heads.
>
> I can adjust damping whilst riding. The GS will have extra options but I
> can choose a softer, foxed damping "road" mode or the "dynamic" mode
> that adjusts the suspension on the fly. The GS will have an off road
> mode.
>
> As for repairs, there are a couple of companies that will refurbish the
> ESA units. Again, UKGSer will provide details if needed. They seem quite
> robust as I don't read about many failures.

2008

/Simon

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On Sunday, 5 June 2022 at 10:25:01 UTC+1, wessie wrote:
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> As for repairs, there are a couple of companies that will refurbish the
> ESA units. Again, UKGSer will provide details if needed. They seem quite
> robust as I don't read about many failures.

Didn't Ogden have a failure on his S1000?

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stephen...@gmail.com wrote:
> wessie wrote:
> > As for repairs, there are a couple of companies that will refurbish the
> > ESA units. Again, UKGSer will provide details if needed. They seem quite
> > robust as I don't read about many failures.
>
> Didn't Ogden have a failure on his S1000?

He did, about two days after the warranty expired.

No problems since it was replaced though. I've still got the faulty original, having intended to return it and still it. Surprise surprise, I never did.

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> 2008
>

I think that might be a similar vintage to the one Krusty bought so I am
guessing he has done some research and has most likely been doing his own
servicing. He might even have one of those 911 or Motoscan things to read &
reset diagnostics and service light.

I doubt he will be here for a while but he's posting on Fb

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 by: siwilson - Sun, 5 Jun 2022 12:40 UTC

On 05/06/2022 13:37, wessie wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:jg3dq7Foi0aU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>
>> 2008
>>
>
> I think that might be a similar vintage to the one Krusty bought so I am
> guessing he has done some research and has most likely been doing his own
> servicing. He might even have one of those 911 or Motoscan things to read &
> reset diagnostics and service light.
>
> I doubt he will be here for a while but he's posting on Fb
>

I'm sitting here looking at a Link LX and waiting for the adapter cable
to arrive ;)

--
/Simon

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 by: siwilson - Sun, 5 Jun 2022 14:31 UTC

On 05/06/2022 10:05, siwilson wrote:
> On 03/06/2022 10:43, wessie wrote:
>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:jfu0hhFr9cjU1@mid.individual.net:
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>>
>>>>> I found from its VIN that one of its options is "lowered seat" - did
>>>>> you know that?
>>>>>
>>>> No, not at all. I kinda doubt it, especially considering how much
>>>> work I had to put in getting my leg over.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fnaar. There are a bunch of other options that I'm trying to work what
>>> they mean. I don't know what lowering the seat entails, suspension
>>> maybe.
>>>
>>
>> low seat just means the same seat pan with less foam
>>
>> the BMW part embossed on the seat pan will be the same on each bike. The
>> actual finished seat part no. is on a sticker that has probably fallen
>> off by now.
>>
>> Lowered suspension will be listed separately.
>>
>> I have a lowered suspension S1000XR and the VIN decode says:
>>
>> X0776    Driver's Seat Low [1]
>> X0499    Lowering
>>
>> https://www.ukgser.com/forums/ is the place for technical queries - no
>> need to pay a sub to see the technical section but if you do subscribe,
>> you will see the "virtual pub" where Bonwick hangs out.
>>
>>
>> [1] no longer fitted as the previous owner fitted the posh Ł400 HP seat
>
>
> Thanks, indeed it does seem to be just thinner seat foam for around 30mm
> lower.
>
> Further decoding of the VIN reveals it's got ESA suspension which I
> suspects = expensive bills to replace or refurbish the shocks if
> required. Am I right in thinking it just adjusts the preload, or does it
> change the damping instead/also?
>

Ooh, and tyre pressure monitor. Fancy.

--
/Simon

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> Ooh, and tyre pressure monitor. Fancy.
>

do these work now? The sensors have a 3v CR2032 battery in them which might
be flat by now. They can be replaced but of course, they are potted in.
Youtube has bodging videos.

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 by: siwilson - Sun, 5 Jun 2022 16:13 UTC

On 05/06/2022 17:06, wessie wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:jg3t14Fr1asU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>>
>> Ooh, and tyre pressure monitor. Fancy.
>>
>
> do these work now? The sensors have a 3v CR2032 battery in them which might
> be flat by now. They can be replaced but of course, they are potted in.
> Youtube has bodging videos.

Dunno yet, I suspect they will need mew batteries, yes.

--
/Simon

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 by: wessie - Sun, 5 Jun 2022 17:28 UTC

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> On 05/06/2022 17:06, wessie wrote:
>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:jg3t14Fr1asU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>>
>>> Ooh, and tyre pressure monitor. Fancy.
>>>
>>
>> do these work now? The sensors have a 3v CR2032 battery in them which
>> might be flat by now. They can be replaced but of course, they are
>> potted in. Youtube has bodging videos.
>
> Dunno yet, I suspect they will need mew batteries, yes.
>

like the ABS & TCS, the sensors don't communicate with the ECU until your
moving. Perhaps, if you are lucky, as the bike spent most of its life
hibernating, the sensors will have gone into deep sleep mode. Turby wasn't
moaning about a warning light in France, just the fuel gauge.

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 by: siwilson - Sun, 5 Jun 2022 17:37 UTC

On 05/06/2022 18:28, wessie wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:jg431bFs0a8U1@mid.individual.net:
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>> On 05/06/2022 17:06, wessie wrote:
>>> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:jg3t14Fr1asU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ooh, and tyre pressure monitor. Fancy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> do these work now? The sensors have a 3v CR2032 battery in them which
>>> might be flat by now. They can be replaced but of course, they are
>>> potted in. Youtube has bodging videos.
>>
>> Dunno yet, I suspect they will need mew batteries, yes.
>>
>
> like the ABS & TCS, the sensors don't communicate with the ECU until your
> moving. Perhaps, if you are lucky, as the bike spent most of its life
> hibernating, the sensors will have gone into deep sleep mode. Turby wasn't
> moaning about a warning light in France, just the fuel gauge.

Fuel gauge fix is WIP too. I plan to convert it to a float from the
stupid strip.

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/Simon

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