"asking for a friend"

Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?

For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
richards toaster).

Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
little less specific.

cheers all,
j

--
jeremy

In article <jbltjtFojnqU1@mid.individual.net>, jeremy says...
>
> "asking for a friend"
>
> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>
> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
> richards toaster).
>
> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
> little less specific.
>
> cheers all,
> j

Isn't this what google lens does?

On 12/04/2022 19:10, jeremy wrote:
> "asking for a friend"
>
> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>
> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
> richards toaster).
>
> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
> little less specific.
>
> cheers all,

mturk.com

--
/Simon

On 12/04/2022 19:41, siwilson wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 19:10, jeremy wrote:
>> "asking for a friend"
>>
>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can
>> recognise an
>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>
>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service
>> - that
>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't
>> a morphy
>> richards toaster).
>>
>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for
>> something a
>> little less specific.
>>
>> cheers all,
>
> mturk.com
>

Or, slightly more seriously, perhaps https://aws.amazon.com/rekognition/

--
/Simon

jeremy wrote:

> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?

nVidia Jetson nano?

search youtube for James Bruton making a robot "see" stuff ...

On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:44:01 BST, "siwilson" <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Or, slightly more seriously, perhaps https://aws.amazon.com/rekognition/

Thanks - that's just the kind of thing I was looking for - amazing
capabilities when you look into what it can do with e.g. video content
recognition.

--
jeremy

On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:20:33 BST, "petrolcan" <petrolcan@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <jbltjtFojnqU1@mid.individual.net>, jeremy says...
>>
>> "asking for a friend"
>>
>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>
>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
>> richards toaster).
>>
>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
>> little less specific.
>>
>> cheers all,
>> j
>
> Isn't this what google lens does?

Yes it was google lens (I think it used to be called goggles BICW) that I came
across first & wondered what else might exist out there. The Amazon
rekognition tool looks like it ticks the boxes.

thx

--
jeremy

On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:

> "asking for a friend"
>
> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>
> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
> richards toaster).
>
> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
> little less specific.
>

If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some contenders.

https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/

Fascinating stuff.

--
jeremy

On 4/13/2022 1:00 AM, jeremy wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "asking for a friend"
>>
>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>
>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
>> richards toaster).
>>
>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
>> little less specific.
>>
>
> If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some contenders.
>
> https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/
>
> Fascinating stuff.
>
Can any tell what's in a cardboard box?

--
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FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 13/04/2022 09:00, jeremy wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "asking for a friend"
>>
>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>
>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud service - that
>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't a morphy
>> richards toaster).
>>
>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
>> little less specific.
>>
>
> If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some contenders.
>
> https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/
>
> Fascinating stuff.

Interesting. I could do with something that can distinguish between
"cat" and "cat carrying item of local wildlife".

On 13/04/2022 16:13, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 13/04/2022 09:00, jeremy wrote:
>> On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "asking for a friend"
>>>
>>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can
>>> recognise an
>>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>>
>>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud
>>> service - that
>>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't
>>> a morphy
>>> richards toaster).
>>>
>>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for
>>> something a
>>> little less specific.
>>>
>>
>> If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some
>> contenders.
>>
>> https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/
>>
>> Fascinating stuff.
>
> Interesting. I could do with something that can distinguish between
> "cat" and "cat carrying item of local wildlife".

And then whether said item of local wildlife is mouse or moose?

Chris
PS. Or even whether cat is small fluffy kitten sized or lion sized
presumably? [1]

[1] I have no idea where you live obviously.

--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote in news:t36mu9$4f7$1@dont-email.me:

> On 4/13/2022 1:00 AM, jeremy wrote:
>> On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "asking for a friend"
>>>
>>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can
>>> recognise an object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta
>>> data about it?
>>>
>>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud
>>> service - that returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville"
>>> (assuming it isn't a morphy richards toaster).
>>>
>>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for
>>> something a little less specific.
>>>
>>
>> If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some
>> contenders.
>>
>> https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/
>>
>> Fascinating stuff.
>>
> Can any tell what's in a cardboard box?
>
>

assume a cat until there is other evidence

On 13/04/2022 16:13, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 13/04/2022 09:00, jeremy wrote:
>> On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "asking for a friend"
>>>
>>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can
>>> recognise an
>>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>>
>>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud
>>> service - that
>>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it isn't
>>> a morphy
>>> richards toaster).
>>>
>>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for
>>> something a
>>> little less specific.
>>>
>>
>> If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some
>> contenders.
>>
>> https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/
>>
>> Fascinating stuff.
>
> Interesting. I could do with something that can distinguish between
> "cat" and "cat carrying item of local wildlife".

There is this solution <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48825761>
but which seems to be a bit excessive from a computation point of view -
but hey that's modern "AI" for you.

I remember reading years ago of a bloke who did something similar but he
arranged the entrance to the catflap in such a way that the cat was lit
from one side and filmed from the other so that the cat was silhouetted
for the camera. This made the image recognition significantly easier as
a silhouette of a normal cat head versus one with mouse or bird hanging
out of its mouth looks significantly different and doesn't require much
computation to distinguish.

Needless to say, I can't find that article now. I do remember him saying
that it took a few weeks to setup, test and perfect. And once it was
working the cat took rather less time to learn to not bring dead things
back and it wasn't needed any more. :-)

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England
FJR1300AS

On 14/04/2022 00:01, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 13/04/2022 16:13, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 13/04/2022 09:00, jeremy wrote:
>>> On 12 Apr 2022 at 19:10:05 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "asking for a friend"
>>>>
>>>> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can
>>>> recognise an
>>>> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>>>>
>>>> For example take photo on phone - shuttle it off to some cloud
>>>> service - that
>>>> returns data such as "sandwich maker" + "breville" (assuming it
>>>> isn't a morphy
>>>> richards toaster).
>>>>
>>>> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for
>>>> something a
>>>> little less specific.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone's interested, I found this page which identifies some
>>> contenders.
>>>
>>> https://nordicapis.com/7-best-image-recognition-apis/
>>>
>>> Fascinating stuff.
>>
>> Interesting. I could do with something that can distinguish between
>> "cat" and "cat carrying item of local wildlife".
>
> There is this solution <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48825761>
> but which seems to be a bit excessive from a computation point of view -
> but hey that's modern "AI" for you.
>
> I remember reading years ago of a bloke who did something similar but he
> arranged the entrance to the catflap in such a way that the cat was lit
> from one side and filmed from the other so that the cat was silhouetted
> for the camera. This made the image recognition significantly easier as
> a silhouette of a normal cat head versus one with mouse or bird hanging
> out of its mouth looks significantly different and doesn't require much
> computation to distinguish.
>
> Needless to say, I can't find that article now. I do remember him saying
> that it took a few weeks to setup, test and perfect. And once it was
> working the cat took rather less time to learn to not bring dead things
> back and it wasn't needed any more. :-)

I remember reading that same article, and also trying to find it more
recently and hitting the BBC article. And another look around has just
brought me to https://github.com/maxkostka/catflap

This might be the old one:
https://web.archive.org/web/20060806160320/http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm

Despite the cat in question being only just larger than kitten-sized and
unlikely ever to grow into her ears, when I managed to imprison one of
her captures [1] she nearly managed to push me off in her desire to play
with it.

[1] I may have mentioned using plastic takeaway containers as useful
storage. They're also pretty effective at trapping wildlife, although
their translucency means that said wildlife is still visible to its captor.

Bruce Horrocks wrote:

> I remember reading years ago of a bloke who did something similar but he
> arranged the entrance to the catflap in such a way that the cat was lit from one
> side and filmed from the other so that the cat was silhouetted for the camera.
> This made the image recognition significantly easier as a silhouette of a normal
> cat head versus one with mouse or bird hanging out of its mouth looks
> significantly different and doesn't require much computation to distinguish.

I remember that one too, but can no longer find it, ISTR it had to distinguish
cats from raccoons ...

On 14/04/2022 08:33, Andy Burns wrote:
> Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>
>> I remember reading years ago of a bloke who did something similar but
>> he arranged the entrance to the catflap in such a way that the cat was
>> lit from one side and filmed from the other so that the cat was
>> silhouetted for the camera. This made the image recognition
>> significantly easier as a silhouette of a normal cat head versus one
>> with mouse or bird hanging out of its mouth looks significantly
>> different and doesn't require much computation to distinguish.
>
> I remember that one too, but can no longer find it, ISTR it had to
> distinguish cats from raccoons ...

Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

YTCYTC#1 wrote:

> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.

No pictures yet though</brightside>

jeremy wrote:
> "petrolcan" <petr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > jeremy says...
> >> Anyone come across or better still worked with software that can recognise an
> >> object to a greater or lesser degree and provide meta data about it?
>
> >> Am aware there are service for processing barcodes; looking for something a
> >> little less specific.
>
> > Isn't this what google lens does?
>
> Yes it was google lens (I think it used to be called goggles BICW) that I came
> across first & wondered what else might exist out there. The Amazon
> rekognition tool looks like it ticks the boxes.

"Dick, dick, not a dick, not a dick, dick, not a dick, dick, dick, not a dick, dick..."

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>YTCYTC#1 wrote:
>
>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
>
>No pictures yet though</brightside>

What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> YTCYTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
>> No pictures yet though</brightside>
>
> What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.

A___A
____ / o o \
/~____ ='= /
(______)__m_m_)

On 14/04/2022 10:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
> Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> YTCYTC#1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
>>> No pictures yet though</brightside>
>>
>> What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.
>
>          A___A
>    ____ / o o \
>  /~____   ='= /
> (______)__m_m_)
>
>
>
>
Go get 'im Fido!

.--~~,__
:-....,-------`~~'._.'
`-,,, ,_ ;'~U'
_,-' ,'`-__; '--.
(_/'~~ ''''(;

--
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"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On 14/04/2022 10:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>> Colin Irvine wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YTCYTC#1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
>>>> No pictures yet though</brightside>
>>>
>>> What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.
>>
>>          A___A
>>    ____ / o o \
>>  /~____   ='= /
>> (______)__m_m_)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Go get 'im Fido!
>
> .--~~,__
> :-....,-------`~~'._.'
> `-,,, ,_ ;'~U'
> _,-' ,'`-__; '--.
> (_/'~~ ''''(;

RAWR

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(Lots to choose from here: https://ascii.co.uk/art)

--
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On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:43:51 PM UTC+1, Mark Olson wrote:
> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 14/04/2022 10:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
> >> Colin Irvine wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> YTCYTC#1 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
> >>>> No pictures yet though</brightside>
> >>>
> >>> What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.
> >>
> >> A___A
> >> ____ / o o \
> >> /~____ ='= /
> >> (______)__m_m_)
> >>

Google groups doesn't parse these very well. Funny, our 4 aren't really mousers, until today when
DonutNonuts the fat ginger one presented a live one, and little Ziggy offered up a dead one, whilst
singing the song of her people for attention.

Dave Brown wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:43:51 PM UTC+1, Mark Olson wrote:
>> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 10:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>>> Colin Irvine wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> YTCYTC#1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
>>>>>> No pictures yet though</brightside>
>>>>> What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.
>>>> A___A
>>>> ____ / o o \
>>>> /~____ ='= /
>>>> (______)__m_m_)
>>>>
>
> Google groups doesn't parse these very well. Funny, our 4 aren't really mousers, until today when
> DonutNonuts the fat ginger one presented a live one, and little Ziggy offered up a dead one, whilst
> singing the song of her people for attention.

Possibly the worst so far was being woken in the night by Cat2 throwing
something around on the bed - 'something' turned out to be a rabbit's
head.

On 14/04/2022 13:07, Dave Brown wrote:
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:43:51 PM UTC+1, Mark Olson wrote:
>> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 10:42, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>>> Colin Irvine wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:09:22 +0100, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> YTCYTC#1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, UKRM sinks to discussions related to cats.
>>>>>> No pictures yet though</brightside>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean "yet". This is a text-only newsgroup, thank goodness.
>>>>
>>>> A___A
>>>> ____ / o o \
>>>> /~____ ='= /
>>>> (______)__m_m_)
>>>>
>
> Google groups doesn't parse these very well.

GG should only be used as a last resort.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/