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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 4 May 2022 10:00 UTC

CYCLISTS are being encouraged to ride in the middle of the lane to make them more visible, in recent changes to the Highway Code which gives them more protection than ever.

The changes have left motorists unsure whether or not they’ll be fined if they pull out to overtake if they get stuck behind a cyclist.
The revamped Highway Code gives cyclists more protection than ever

Well in Scotland the law was made crystal clear and cops north of the border ever took to social media to get the warning across.
Can I be fined for overtaking a cyclist?

The answer is yes - but not if you stick to the rules.

Police Scotland revealed in a tweet that overtaking a cyclist with less than a car’s width is known as a close-pass. They advised that this is a careless driving offence.

The force added that drivers can face three points on their licence and a £100 fine.

They warned: “It’s not worth it, so make sure you give cycle space.”

Rule 163 of the Highway Code says: “As a guide, leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.”
in protest over £4 ticket'
Do cars have right of way over cyclists?

Under The Highway Code’s revamp for 2022, cyclists have now been given more power on the roads than ever before.

Drivers should not be cutting across cyclists, which are planning to travel ahead, when turning in or out of a junction or changing direction or lane.

Cyclists will also be given extra priority at roundabouts.

Drivers shouldn’t overtake them as they make their journey around, or get too close.

Cyclists must also be allowed to move across drivers paths as they go around the roundabout.
When should cyclists ride in the road?

In previous editions on The Highway Code, the ideal road position for cyclists was never mentioned.

Usually cyclists would ride close to the kerb on the left-hand side of their lane or on cycle lanes.

Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.

Rule 72 of The Highway Code says: Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations:

On quiet roads or streets - if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely.

“In slower-moving traffic - when the traffic around you starts to flow more freely move over to the left if you can do so safely so that faster vehicles behind you can overtake.

“At the approach to junctions or road narrowing where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/motors/8610483/fined-scotland-overtaking-cyclist-car/

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 by: Spike - Wed, 4 May 2022 10:16 UTC

On 04/05/2022 10:00, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.

> Rule 72 of The Highway Code says: Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations:

> On quiet roads or streets - if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely.

> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/motors/8610483/fined-scotland-overtaking-cyclist-car/>

....AT CERTAIN TIMES
....ON QUIETER (undefined) ROADS
....IN SLOWER (undefined) TRAFFIC
....MOVE TO THE LEFT TO ENABLE THEM TO OVERTAKE

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 4 May 2022 11:13 UTC

On 04/05/2022 11:00 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> FAIRY-CYCLISTS are being encouraged to ride in the middle of the lane to make them more visible, in recent changes to the Highway Code which gives them more protection than ever.
>
> The changes have left motorists unsure whether or not they’ll be fined if they pull out to overtake if they get stuck behind a fairy-cyclist.
> The revamped Highway Code gives fairy-cyclists more protection than ever
>
> Well in Scotland the law was made crystal clear and cops north of the border ever took to social media to get the warning across.

> Can I be fined for overtaking a fairy-cyclist?
>
> The answer is yes - but not if you stick to the rules.
>
> Police Scotland revealed in a tweet that overtaking a fairy-cyclist with less than a car’s width is known as a close-pass. They advised that this is a careless driving offence.

Are Scottish cars less than 1.5m wide?

GUIDANCE is NOT the LAW

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 by: Spike - Wed, 4 May 2022 12:01 UTC

On 04/05/2022 11:13, JNugent wrote:
> On 04/05/2022 11:00 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Police Scotland revealed in a tweet that overtaking a fairy-cyclist with less than a car’s width is known as a close-pass. They advised that this is a careless driving offence.

> Are Scottish cars less than 1.5m wide?

Methinks that like in the pandemic, the Police take 'guidance' as the
law, and it looks like Police Scotland are now doing it again.

They should wind their necks in.

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Spike

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On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
across.
> Can I be fined for overtaking a cyclist?
>
> The answer is yes - but not if you stick to the rules.

Sadly for the idiot drivers, most of them are unaware of the rules and will therefore get fined.

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 4 May 2022 13:38 UTC

On 04/05/2022 01:20 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can I be fined for overtaking a cyclist?
>
>> The answer is yes - but not if you stick to the rules.
>
> Sadly for the idiot drivers, most of them are unaware of the rules and will therefore get fined.

What "the rules"?

And on which Act, Section, sub-section and regulations are they based?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 4 May 2022 15:36 UTC

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

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> Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.
>
> Rule 72 of The Highway Code says: Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations:

> “At the approach to junctions or road narrowing where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you.”

In other words, make the mind up of the driver BEFORE they can make the unsafe overtake.
EMINENTLY SENSIBLE CYCLING.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 4 May 2022 17:32 UTC

On 04/05/2022 15:36, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.

>> Rule 72 of The Highway Code says: Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations:

>> “At the approach to junctions or road narrowing where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you.”

> In other words, make the mind up of the driver BEFORE they can make the unsafe overtake

> EMINENTLY SENSIBLE CYCLING.

Sounds as well-founded as that Police Scotland edict about overtaking
cyclists. Not.

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> Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.

In 20mph zones with severe humps, I was always the fastest vehicle on the road and so rode in the middle of the street anyway.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 5 May 2022 07:47 UTC

On 04/05/2022 12:20, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> across.

>> Can I be fined for overtaking a cyclist?

>> The answer is yes - but not if you stick to the rules.

> Sadly for the idiot drivers, most of them are unaware of the rules and will therefore get fined.

Unfortunately, Police Scotland seem to be making it up as they go along,
which helps neither cyclists nor drivers.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 5 May 2022 07:47 UTC

On 04/05/2022 18:24, swldx...@gmail.com wrote in reply to himself:
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.

> In 20mph zones with severe humps, I was always the fastest vehicle on the road and so rode in the middle of the street anyway.

You were the fastest vehicle despite all the speeding drivers you
endlessly complain about?

Thanks for putting your hands up to that one.

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On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:24:20 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
> > Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.
> In 20mph zones with severe humps, I was always the fastest vehicle on the road and so rode in the middle of the street anyway.

The humps limited cars to 17mph, whereas I could do 25mph with ease.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 5 May 2022 10:17 UTC

In reply to himself swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> In reply to himself swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> In reply to himself swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> Now, cyclists will be able to ride in the middle of the lane at certain times, such as on quieter roads and in slower-moving traffic.

>> In 20mph zones with severe humps, I was always the fastest vehicle on the road and so rode in the middle of the street anyway.

> The humps limited cars to 17mph, whereas I could do 25mph with ease.

Hope you gave at least 1.5m overtake clearance, or Police Scotland will
be after you. If you are not part of the solution then you are part of
the problem.

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On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

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> The force added that drivers can face three points on their licence and a £100 fine.
>
> They warned: “It’s not worth it, so make sure you give cycle space.”

It's certainly NOT worth it as the police correctly state.
BE WARNED!

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 by: Spike - Thu, 5 May 2022 16:38 UTC

Talking to himself, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Talking to himself, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> The force added that drivers can face three points on their licence and a £100 fine.

>> They warned: “It’s not worth it, so make sure you give cycle space.”

> It's certainly NOT worth it as the police correctly state.

> BE WARNED!

Has it crossed your tiny mind that while the Highway Code *advises* 1.5m
clearance with a greater distance for overtakes greater than 30mph, it
isn't the law, and Police Scotland can't make it up whether they want to
or not. One of your Mr Arseholes would drive a coach and horses through
any such NIP.

BE WARNED!

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> Under The Highway Code’s revamp for 2022, cyclists have now been given more power on the roads than ever before.

Not before time as well. I've noticed more drivers passing with a wide berth lately.
That's good.

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