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* Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2Spike
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From: Aero.Sp...@mail.invalid (Spike)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling
Subject: Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 08:05:35 +0000
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 by: Spike - Fri, 6 May 2022 08:05 UTC

Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
Glasgow.

Full story here:

THIS is the shocking moment a driver and a cyclist traded blows at the
side of a Glasgow road following a suspected road rage incident.

A fight broke out after a blazing row saw the driver get out of his car
to challenge the man on his bike.

But he was left with a bloodied face after the cyclist inflicted some
brutal blows.

Traffic started to pile up towards a roundabout on Edmiston Drive, in
Glasgow, outside Ibrox stadium, at 7.45am this morning after the man
left his car.

Footage captured by someone in the passenger seat of a car in the queue
of traffic caught the fight which broke out on the pavement at the side
of the road.

The video, which has gone viral on social media, shows the cyclist
wearing a green fluorescent jacket and a black backpack, shoving the
driver against a metal fence between hedges.

He holds the driver back as he starts to swing punches before he lands a
few himself on the man's head.

The person filming the ordeal shouts "smash his head in big man" as the
pair can be seen landing tough blows to each others faces.

A third man appears to try and intervene and separate the two, but the
cyclist pushes him away.

He pushes the driver against the fence before punching him repeatedly in
the abdomen area.

The man filming from the car laughs as he says: "He's went out to
leather him and then got done in!"

The man's helmet is knocked off as the third man persistently tries to
stop the fight by pushing them apart, but he carries on throwing punches.

He backs off and steps back revealing the driver sitting down doubled
over on the pavement.

Walking away to retrieve his helmet and bike, which lay in front of the
car on the road, two bystanders go to help up the driver.

While laughing hysterically, the man filming yells: "You f****** d***!

"He's been leathered! Well done big man!"

The two other pedestrians help the driver up on his feet and he wipes
his face as the cyclist picks his bike off the road.

The driver, whose face is covered in blood, is seen heading back to his car.

The video was posted on Facebook where it quickly racked up more than
170,000 views with 2.100 reactions and 1,700 comments.

Police Scotland said they had no report of the incident.
..
<https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/?

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Spike

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From: cmike8...@gmail.com (Mike Collins)
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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 6 May 2022 08:37 UTC

On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 09:05:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
> daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
> pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
> Glasgow.
>
> Full story here:
>
>
> THIS is the shocking moment a driver and a cyclist traded blows at the
> side of a Glasgow road following a suspected road rage incident.
>
> A fight broke out after a blazing row saw the driver get out of his car
> to challenge the man on his bike.
>
> But he was left with a bloodied face after the cyclist inflicted some
> brutal blows.
>
> Traffic started to pile up towards a roundabout on Edmiston Drive, in
> Glasgow, outside Ibrox stadium, at 7.45am this morning after the man
> left his car.
>
> Footage captured by someone in the passenger seat of a car in the queue
> of traffic caught the fight which broke out on the pavement at the side
> of the road.
>
> The video, which has gone viral on social media, shows the cyclist
> wearing a green fluorescent jacket and a black backpack, shoving the
> driver against a metal fence between hedges.
>
> He holds the driver back as he starts to swing punches before he lands a
> few himself on the man's head.
>
> The person filming the ordeal shouts "smash his head in big man" as the
> pair can be seen landing tough blows to each others faces.
>
> A third man appears to try and intervene and separate the two, but the
> cyclist pushes him away.
>
> He pushes the driver against the fence before punching him repeatedly in
> the abdomen area.
>
> The man filming from the car laughs as he says: "He's went out to
> leather him and then got done in!"
>
> The man's helmet is knocked off as the third man persistently tries to
> stop the fight by pushing them apart, but he carries on throwing punches.
>
> He backs off and steps back revealing the driver sitting down doubled
> over on the pavement.
>
> Walking away to retrieve his helmet and bike, which lay in front of the
> car on the road, two bystanders go to help up the driver.
>
> While laughing hysterically, the man filming yells: "You f****** d***!
>
> "He's been leathered! Well done big man!"
>
> The two other pedestrians help the driver up on his feet and he wipes
> his face as the cyclist picks his bike off the road.
>
> The driver, whose face is covered in blood, is seen heading back to his car.
>
> The video was posted on Facebook where it quickly racked up more than
> 170,000 views with 2.100 reactions and 1,700 comments.
>
> Police Scotland said they had no report of the incident.
> .
> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/?
>
>
> --
> Spike

I can only see pedestrians in this video.

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Subject: Re: Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 11:34:53 +0000
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 by: Spike - Fri, 6 May 2022 11:34 UTC

On 06/05/2022 08:37, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 09:05:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

>> Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
>> daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
>> pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
>> Glasgow.

>> Full story here:

>> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/?

> I can only see pedestrians in this video.

Change your glasses.

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 6 May 2022 12:36 UTC

On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 12:34:54 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 06/05/2022 08:37, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 09:05:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
> >> Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
> >> daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
> >> pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
> >> Glasgow.
>
> >> Full story here:
> >> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/?
> > I can only see pedestrians in this video.
> Change your glasses.
>
> --
> Spike

There were motor vehicles in the background but the focus was on the pedestrians scuffling on the footway.

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Subject: Re: Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 13:27:18 +0000
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 by: Spike - Fri, 6 May 2022 13:27 UTC

On 06/05/2022 12:36, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 12:34:54 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 06/05/2022 08:37, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 09:05:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:

>>>> Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
>>>> daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
>>>> pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
>>>> Glasgow.

>>>> Full story here:

>>>> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/>

>>> I can only see pedestrians in this video.

>> Change your glasses.

> There were motor vehicles in the background but the focus was on the pedestrians scuffling on the footway.

You didn't see the bicycle, then?

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 7 May 2022 01:02 UTC

On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 14:27:18 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 06/05/2022 12:36, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 12:34:54 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 06/05/2022 08:37, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 09:05:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
> >>>> Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
> >>>> daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
> >>>> pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
> >>>> Glasgow.
>
> >>>> Full story here:
>
> >>>> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/>
> >>> I can only see pedestrians in this video.
>
> >> Change your glasses.
> > There were motor vehicles in the background but the focus was on the pedestrians scuffling on the footway.
> You didn't see the bicycle, then?
>
>
> --
> Spike

Crank v Brooks 1980.

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Subject: Re: Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2
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 by: Spike - Sat, 7 May 2022 08:31 UTC

On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

> Crank v Brooks 1980.

Irrelevant.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 7 May 2022 08:58 UTC

On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> Irrelevant.
>
> --
> Spike

How?

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 by: Spike - Sat, 7 May 2022 09:16 UTC

On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.

>> Irrelevant.

> How?

By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
was only seven years ago.

--
Spike

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On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> >> Irrelevant.
> > How?
>
> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
> was only seven years ago.
>
>
> --
> Spike

All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.

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 by: Spike - Sat, 7 May 2022 10:17 UTC

On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.

>>>> Irrelevant.

>>> How?

>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
>> was only seven years ago.

> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.

> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.

"freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 7 May 2022 12:24 UTC

On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> >>>> Irrelevant.
>
> >>> How?
>
> >> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
> >> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
> >> was only seven years ago.
> > All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
>
> > Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”
>
>
> --
> Spike

and?

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 by: JNugent - Sat, 7 May 2022 12:37 UTC

On 07/05/2022 02:02 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 14:27:18 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 06/05/2022 12:36, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 12:34:54 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 06/05/2022 08:37, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, 6 May 2022 at 09:05:36 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>
>>>>>> Following only days after an 80-year-old was beaten to the ground for
>>>>>> daring to question the brute's self-appointed right to cycle on the
>>>>>> pavement, another brutal assault has been carried out by a cyclist in
>>>>>> Glasgow.
>
>>>>>> Full story here:
>
>>>>>> <https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8812717/shocking-moment-driver-confronts-cyclist-glasgow-gets-leathered/>

>>>>> I can only see pedestrians in this video.

<groan>

>>>> Change your glasses.

>>> There were motor vehicles in the background but the focus was on the pedestrians scuffling on the footway.

>> You didn't see the bicycle, then?

> Crank v Brooks 1980.

Two very well-known fairy-cycling words.

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> fairy-cycling

And immediately lost the argument

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 by: Spike - Sun, 8 May 2022 08:54 UTC

On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.

>>>>>> Irrelevant.

>>>>> How?

>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
>>>> was only seven years ago.

>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.

>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”

> and?

You mentioned the case - you explain...

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 8 May 2022 11:03 UTC

On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> >>>>>> Irrelevant.
>
> >>>>> How?
>
> >>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
> >>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
> >>>> was only seven years ago.
>
> >>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
>
> >>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
> >> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
> >> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”
> > and?
>
> You mentioned the case - you explain...
>
> --
> Spike

So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.

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Subject: Re: Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2
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 by: Spike - Sun, 8 May 2022 11:07 UTC

On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.

>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.

>>>>>>> How?

>>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
>>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
>>>>>> was only seven years ago.

>>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.

>>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
>>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
>>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”

>>> and?

>> You mentioned the case - you explain...

> So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.

References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved.

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 8 May 2022 20:10 UTC

On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 12:07:47 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> >>>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>
> >>>>>>> How?
>
> >>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
> >>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
> >>>>>> was only seven years ago.
>
> >>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
>
> >>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
> >>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
> >>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”
>
> >>> and?
>
> >> You mentioned the case - you explain...
> > So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.
> References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
> video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved..
>
>
> --
> Spike

Crank v Brooks again.

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 by: Spike - Mon, 9 May 2022 08:05 UTC

On 08/05/2022 20:10, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 12:07:47 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.

>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.

>>>>>>>>> How?

>>>>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
>>>>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
>>>>>>>> was only seven years ago.

>>>>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.

>>>>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
>>>>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
>>>>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”

>>>>> and?

>>>> You mentioned the case - you explain...
>>> So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.

>> References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
>> video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved.

> Crank v Brooks again.

I refer you to my previous comments on the matter.

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 9 May 2022 09:28 UTC

On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 09:05:58 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 08/05/2022 20:10, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 12:07:47 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>
> >>>>>>>>> How?
>
> >>>>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
> >>>>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
> >>>>>>>> was only seven years ago.
>
> >>>>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
>
> >>>>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
> >>>>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
> >>>>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”
>
> >>>>> and?
>
> >>>> You mentioned the case - you explain...
> >>> So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.
>
> >> References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
> >> video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved.
> > Crank v Brooks again.
>
> I refer you to my previous comments on the matter.
>
>
> --
> Spike

Thank you for proving my point. Under Crank v Brooks there were only Foot Passengers in this video.
It is not necessary to be a cyclist in order to wear a cycle helmet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFbmiBHHSI&t=262s
In fact intelligent cyclists prefer not to wear a silly plastic hat that does not provide head protection but greatly increases your chance of neck and spinal injury.

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Subject: Re: Brutal Assault by Cyclist - No.2
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 by: Spike - Mon, 9 May 2022 10:10 UTC

On 09/05/2022 09:28, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 09:05:58 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 08/05/2022 20:10, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 12:07:47 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.

>>>>>>>>>>> How?

>>>>>>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
>>>>>>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
>>>>>>>>>> was only seven years ago.

>>>>>>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.

>>>>>>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
>>>>>>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
>>>>>>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”

>>>>>>> and?

>>>>>> You mentioned the case - you explain...
>>>>> So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.

>>>> References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
>>>> video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved.
>>> Crank v Brooks again.

>> I refer you to my previous comments on the matter.

> Thank you for proving my point. Under Crank v Brooks there were only Foot Passengers in this video.
> It is not necessary to be a cyclist in order to wear a cycle helmet.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFbmiBHHSI&t=262s

> In fact intelligent cyclists prefer not to wear a silly plastic hat that does not provide head protection but greatly increases your chance of neck and spinal injury.

You'll need to prove your claim that there are such things as
'intelligent cyclists'.

There's plenty of evidence to show that there are all too many 'violent
cyclists'.

Something should be done to curb these thugs.

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:30 UTC

On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 11:10:43 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 09/05/2022 09:28, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 09:05:58 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 08/05/2022 20:10, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 12:07:47 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> How?
>
> >>>>>>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
> >>>>>>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
> >>>>>>>>>> was only seven years ago.
>
> >>>>>>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
> >>>>>>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
> >>>>>>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”
>
> >>>>>>> and?
>
> >>>>>> You mentioned the case - you explain...
> >>>>> So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.
>
> >>>> References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
> >>>> video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved.
> >>> Crank v Brooks again.
>
> >> I refer you to my previous comments on the matter.
> > Thank you for proving my point. Under Crank v Brooks there were only Foot Passengers in this video.
> > It is not necessary to be a cyclist in order to wear a cycle helmet.

So you are agreeing with my. Thanks for your support.
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFbmiBHHSI&t=262s
>
> > In fact intelligent cyclists prefer not to wear a silly plastic hat that does not provide head protection but greatly increases your chance of neck and spinal injury.
> You'll need to prove your claim that there are such things as
> 'intelligent cyclists'.

Choosing a pedal cycle as a form of transport is all the proof that is needed.

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 9 May 2022 15:22 UTC

On 09/05/2022 12:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 11:10:43 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 09/05/2022 09:28, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 09:05:58 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 08/05/2022 20:10, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 12:07:47 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 11:03, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 8 May 2022 at 09:54:27 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 12:24, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 11:17:51 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 09:50, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 10:16:25 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 08:58, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 09:31:57 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/05/2022 01:02, Mike Collins wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crank v Brooks 1980.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By not being relevant. Besides, it's an 'old case' in the same manner as
>>>>>>>>>>>> references to Charlie Alliston are dismissed as an old case, and that
>>>>>>>>>>>> was only seven years ago.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All I can see in the relevant parts of this clip are Foot Passengers according to the appeal court in Crank v Brooks.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you can cite a case over ruling this decision it stands.
>>>>>>>>>> "freewheeling or standing on one pedal still counts as riding. (DPP v
>>>>>>>>>> Selby [1994] RTR 157, 162; Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)”
>>
>>>>>>>>> and?
>>
>>>>>>>> You mentioned the case - you explain...
>>>>>>> So you agree there were only pedestrians in this video.
>>
>>>>>> References to the attacker's cycle helmet being knocked off, and the
>>>>>> video showing a bicycle lying in the road, suggest a cyclist was involved.
>>>>> Crank v Brooks again.
>>
>>>> I refer you to my previous comments on the matter.
>>> Thank you for proving my point. Under Crank v Brooks there were only Foot Passengers in this video.
>>> It is not necessary to be a cyclist in order to wear a cycle helmet.
>
> So you are agreeing with my. Thanks for your support.
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFbmiBHHSI&t=262s
>>
>>> In fact intelligent cyclists prefer not to wear a silly plastic hat that does not provide head protection but greatly increases your chance of neck and spinal injury.
>> You'll need to prove your claim that there are such things as
>> 'intelligent cyclists'.
>
> Choosing a pedal cycle as a form of transport is all the proof that is needed.

In what way is the possession and use of a fairy-cycle a marker of
intelligence?

Please be specific.

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 9 May 2022 15:45 UTC

On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 16:22:26 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

> > fairy-cycle

And immediately lost the argument.

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 9 May 2022 16:09 UTC

On 09/05/2022 04:45 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 16:22:26 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>
>>> fairy-cycle
>
> And immediately lost the argument.

It's a shame that you have such think skin and such a guilty conscience,
isn't it?

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