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* Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is change coming?Sam Plusnet
+* Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is change coming?Brian Gaff
|`* Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is change coming?Colin Bignell
| `* Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is change coming?Max Demian
|  `- Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is change coming?Colin Bignell
+* Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is change coming?whisky-dave
|`- Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is changeSmolley
`- Re: Australia has a 'pokies' gambling problem, but is changeRob Morley

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:41 UTC

On 27-Mar-23 16:48, David P wrote:

<snip lots>
> If gambling losses were averaged over Australia's entire adult population, each person would lose about A$1,200 a year, according to H2 Gambling Capital. This is significantly more than for other nations.

I wondered how that compared to the UK, so I looked for data how much is
spent on lotteries (OK, that's only one aspect of gambling).

Colour me confused. One 'report' from 2018 claimed that:

"The average lifetime spend on lotteries in the UK is £377.94 per person"

But another 'report' from 2021 said:

"Every year we spend an average of £416 each on scratchcards and playing
the National Lottery."

If both claims are true, then people who buy lottery tickets only
survive for around 11 months.

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Sam Plusnet

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 by: Brian Gaff - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:03 UTC

I don't buy anything in lotteries.
Brian

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"Sam Plusnet" <not@home.com> wrote in message
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> On 27-Mar-23 16:48, David P wrote:
>
> <snip lots>
>> If gambling losses were averaged over Australia's entire adult
>> population, each person would lose about A$1,200 a year, according to H2
>> Gambling Capital. This is significantly more than for other nations.
>
> I wondered how that compared to the UK, so I looked for data how much is
> spent on lotteries (OK, that's only one aspect of gambling).
>
> Colour me confused. One 'report' from 2018 claimed that:
>
> "The average lifetime spend on lotteries in the UK is �377.94 per person"
>
> But another 'report' from 2021 said:
>
> "Every year we spend an average of �416 each on scratchcards and playing
> the National Lottery."
>
> If both claims are true, then people who buy lottery tickets only survive
> for around 11 months.
>
> --
> Sam Plusnet
>

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 by: Colin Bignell - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:29 UTC

On 28/03/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I don't buy anything in lotteries.
> Brian
>

Not even a Premium Bond?

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 by: whisky-dave - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:51 UTC

On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 21:41:20 UTC+1, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 27-Mar-23 16:48, David P wrote:
>
> <snip lots>
> > If gambling losses were averaged over Australia's entire adult population, each person would lose about A$1,200 a year, according to H2 Gambling Capital. This is significantly more than for other nations.
> I wondered how that compared to the UK, so I looked for data how much is
> spent on lotteries (OK, that's only one aspect of gambling).

anthor aspect is whether it's considered gambling.
The proceeds of the national lottery & some other charities go to good causes, which are teh only lotteries I do.

I stopped doing the football pools years ago and don't bet on sports events..

So when I do the lottery I don't think of it as gambling as I'm giving money to causxes I agree with even if it's not all of the causes.
>
> Colour me confused. One 'report' from 2018 claimed that:
>
> "The average lifetime spend on lotteries in the UK is £377.94 per person"
>
> But another 'report' from 2021 said:
>
> "Every year we spend an average of £416 each on scratchcards and playing
> the National Lottery."

well that was probably due to lockdown. ;-)

>
> If both claims are true, then people who buy lottery tickets only
> survive for around 11 months.

If I only survived for 11 months after buying a ticket that would certainly put me off, charities or not :D

>
> --
> Sam Plusnet

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 by: Smolley - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 15:50 UTC

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 06:51:00 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:

> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 21:41:20 UTC+1, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 27-Mar-23 16:48, David P wrote:
>>
>> <snip lots>
>> > If gambling losses were averaged over Australia's entire adult
>> > population, each person would lose about A$1,200 a year, according to
>> > H2 Gambling Capital. This is significantly more than for other
>> > nations.
>> I wondered how that compared to the UK, so I looked for data how much
>> is spent on lotteries (OK, that's only one aspect of gambling).
>
> anthor aspect is whether it's considered gambling.
> The proceeds of the national lottery & some other charities go to good
> causes, which are teh only lotteries I do.
>
> I stopped doing the football pools years ago and don't bet on sports
> events.
>
> So when I do the lottery I don't think of it as gambling as I'm giving
> money to causxes I agree with even if it's not all of the causes.
>
>
>> Colour me confused. One 'report' from 2018 claimed that:
>>
>> "The average lifetime spend on lotteries in the UK is £377.94 per
>> person"
>>
>> But another 'report' from 2021 said:
>>
>> "Every year we spend an average of £416 each on scratchcards and
>> playing the National Lottery."
>
> well that was probably due to lockdown. ;-)
>
>
>> If both claims are true, then people who buy lottery tickets only
>> survive for around 11 months.
>
> If I only survived for 11 months after buying a ticket that would
> certainly put me off, charities or not :D
>
>
>> --
>> Sam Plusnet

Don't forget the merrycan shareholders

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 by: Max Demian - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:46 UTC

On 28/03/2023 14:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 28/03/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:

>> I don't buy anything in lotteries.

> Not even a Premium Bond?

I doubt the notional interest is better than other NS&I investments.

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 by: Colin Bignell - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:54 UTC

On 28/03/2023 17:46, Max Demian wrote:
> On 28/03/2023 14:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 28/03/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>>> I don't buy anything in lotteries.
>
>> Not even a Premium Bond?
>
> I doubt the notional interest is better than other NS&I investments.
>

Unless, of course, you get a jackpot, which is what makes it a lottery.

--
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 by: Rob Morley - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:49 UTC

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:41:15 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> Colour me confused. One 'report' from 2018 claimed that:
>
> "The average lifetime spend on lotteries in the UK is £377.94 per
> person"
>
> But another 'report' from 2021 said:
>
> "Every year we spend an average of £416 each on scratchcards and
> playing the National Lottery."
>
> If both claims are true, then people who buy lottery tickets only
> survive for around 11 months.
>
I expect the lifetime average is taken across the whole adult
population but the yearly figure is only for people who gamble.

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