On 17/04/2022 10:27, maus wrote:
>
> The current pressure being put on Sweden and Finland to join NATO is
> unlikely to succeed, as Sweden, as we see from its dealing with the
> pandemic, is too sensible. The situation with Finland is more
> complicated, A treaty brokered by the British in 1944 bound Finland to
> never join an alliance against the Soviet Union.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/13/finland-and-sweden-could-apply-for-nato-membership-in-weeks

The pressure isn't just external, there's a majority of the population
in both countries that want to join. They're already Nato partners, not
completely non-allied.

There is no Soviet Union so any treaty to do with it would be null.

Nick Odell said:
>>>> Whom have we invaded?
>>> Grenada..
>>
>>My "we" meant the UK, I took Mr. Hinge's to mean the same.
>
> I think Grenada is a tad more complicated. Long before 1983 when the
> USA invaded, the French had invaded and then later handed the island
> over to the Brits.

Yes. AFAIK,A

> We (Brits) haven't always got our own way. AFAIK they don't teach the
> two, failed British invasions of Buenos Aires (1806, 1807) in UK

Blimey. They certainly don't.

> schools but they certainly do in Argentina. And the least said about
> the Battle of Vuelta de Obligado (1845) the better.

I Know Nothing.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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In article <LMOdnYrz8tMXnMH_nZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 07:01:14 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Nick Odell said:
>>>>> Whom have we invaded?
>>>> Grenada..
>>>
>>>My "we" meant the UK, I took Mr. Hinge's to mean the same.
>>
>> I think Grenada is a tad more complicated. Long before 1983 when the
>> USA invaded, the French had invaded and then later handed the island
>> over to the Brits.
>
>Yes. AFAIK,A
>
>> We (Brits) haven't always got our own way. AFAIK they don't teach the
>> two, failed British invasions of Buenos Aires (1806, 1807) in UK
>
>Blimey. They certainly don't.

They did, well at my school; mind yew my teacher was somewhat left of Mr
Marx (or perhaps cynical - Moi?) and he had had a spell in one of HM
Submarines during the late unpleasantness. His captain boasted that he
could get his submarine into any port in the world but "notice he did
not say he could get us out again".
>
>> schools but they certainly do in Argentina. And the least said about
>> the Battle of Vuelta de Obligado (1845) the better.
>
>I Know Nothing.
>
>

--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <LMOdnYrz8tMXnMH_nZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
> Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 07:01:14 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>Nick Odell said:
>>>>>> Whom have we invaded?
>>>>> Grenada..
>>>>
>>>>My "we" meant the UK, I took Mr. Hinge's to mean the same.
>>>
>>> I think Grenada is a tad more complicated. Long before 1983 when the
>>> USA invaded, the French had invaded and then later handed the island
>>> over to the Brits.
>>
>>Yes. AFAIK,A
>>
>>> We (Brits) haven't always got our own way. AFAIK they don't teach the
>>> two, failed British invasions of Buenos Aires (1806, 1807) in UK
>>
>>Blimey. They certainly don't.
>
> They did, well at my school; mind yew my teacher was somewhat left of Mr
> Marx (or perhaps cynical - Moi?) and he had had a spell in one of HM
> Submarines during the late unpleasantness. His captain boasted that he
> could get his submarine into any port in the world but "notice he did
> not say he could get us out again".

Another take on "Stockholm Syndrome" ?

>>> schools but they certainly do in Argentina. And the least said about
>>> the Battle of Vuelta de Obligado (1845) the better.
>>
>>I Know Nothing.
>>
>>
>

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
news:jc2de7F6cv0U1@mid.individual.net:

> On 17/04/2022 10:27, maus wrote:
>>
>> The current pressure being put on Sweden and Finland to join NATO is
>> unlikely to succeed, as Sweden, as we see from its dealing with the
>> pandemic, is too sensible. The situation with Finland is more
>> complicated, A treaty brokered by the British in 1944 bound Finland
>> to never join an alliance against the Soviet Union.
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/13/finland-and-sweden-could-
> apply-for-nato-membership-in-weeks
>
> The pressure isn't just external, there's a majority of the population
> in both countries that want to join. They're already Nato partners,
> not completely non-allied.

My Finnish friend tells me that while it is likely that a plebicite to join
NATO would be carried (provided Sweden also intended to join) the
practicalities are such that it would take many years to achieve. The main
purpose of such an announcement would be to cock a snoot at Russia, who've
told them not to join NATO, or else.

--
Peter
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