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Subject: Near 25% increase in video submissions since Highway Code changes
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The head of road safety at Nextbase, the dash cam manufacturer that runs the National Dash Cam Safety Portal used by many police forces, says video submissions, particularly from cyclists and pedestrians, have been on the rise since the new Highway Code came into effect in January.

Bryn Brooker told the Express (link is external) there has been nearly 25 per cent more submissions since the changes, bolstered by more cyclists and pedestrians reporting motorists to their police force.

"We are seeing an increase in road users submitting video to the Nextbase Dash Cam Safety Portal," Booker said. "Particularly from cyclists and pedestrians, reporting motorists to their local police force. There has been a nearly 25 percent increase in submissions since the new Highway Code rules were announced."

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the employee of the dash cam manufacturer also recommended, "All motorists protect themselves and their vehicles with a dash cam."

Nextbase's National Dash Cam Safety Portal (NDSP) is described as "a response to the ever-increasing submissions of video and photographic evidence from members of the public in relation to witnessed driving offences" on the website.

Any type of footage, whether filmed on a dash cam, mobile phone or any other device can be submitted, with the portal being used by various police forces to address dangerous driving.

The Express' interview is predictably representitive of certain sections of the media's output since January's Highway Code changes, and asks Booker to comment on the clip featured in our Near Miss of the Day 752.

Since that footage was widely shared online, various news outlets have published articles centred around the 'debate' about who was in the wrong? This comes despite the police, Crown Prosecution Service and court all finding fault with the driver's actions.

"This video is a reminder that all road users should follow the Highway Code, and motorists should take additional caution around more vulnerable road users, such as cyclists or pedestrians," Booker says when shown the footage by the Express.

"The new Highway Code changes, which changes the hierarchy of the road, mean the responsibility is with motorists more than ever. They must now take extra caution when overtaking or passing vulnerable road users.

"Where motorists cannot prove they acted properly, it is likely they will take most, if not all, responsibility for damages after an incident."

It is later said that thousands of cyclists and drivers have invested in dashcams or helmet cameras since January.

Last week, Detective Chief Superintendent Andy Cox of Lincolnshire Police, said: "The police can’t be everywhere all the time, but the public can be," and urged riders to invest in helmet or handlebar cameras to catch law-breaking motorists.

https://road.cc/content/news/highway-code-changes-25-video-submission-increase-292641

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On 09/05/2022 04:42 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> The head of road safety at Nextbase, the dash cam manufacturer that runs the National Dash Cam Safety Portal used by many police forces, says video submissions, particularly from fairy-cyclists and pedestrians, have been on the rise since the new Highway Code came into effect in January.

Pedestrians carrying dash-cams or fairy-cycle-helmet-cams?

Really?

On which planet?

> Bryn Brooker told the Express (link is external) there has been nearly 25 per cent more submissions since the changes, bolstered by more fairy-cyclists and pedestrians reporting motorists to their police force.
>
> "We are seeing an increase in road users submitting video to the Nextbase Dash Cam Safety Portal," Booker said. "Particularly from fairy-cyclists and pedestrians, reporting motorists to their local police force. There has been a nearly 25 percent increase in submissions since the new Highway Code rules were announced."
>
> Perhaps unsurprisingly, the employee of the dash cam manufacturer also recommended, "All motorists protect themselves and their vehicles with a dash cam."
>
> Nextbase's National Dash Cam Safety Portal (NDSP) is described as "a response to the ever-increasing submissions of video and photographic evidence from members of the public in relation to witnessed driving offences" on the website.
>
> Any type of footage, whether filmed on a dash cam, mobile phone or any other device can be submitted, with the portal being used by various police forces to address dangerous driving.
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> The Express' interview is predictably representitive [sic] of certain sections of the media's output since January's Highway Code changes, and asks Booker to comment on the clip featured in our Near Miss of the Day 752.
>
> Since that footage was widely shared online, various news outlets have published articles centred around the 'debate' about who was in the wrong? This comes despite the police, Crown Prosecution Service and court all finding fault with the driver's actions.
>
> "This video is a reminder that all road users should follow the Highway Code, and motorists should take additional caution around more vulnerable road users, such as fairy-cyclists or pedestrians," Booker says when shown the footage by the Express.
>
> "The new Highway Code changes, which changes the hierarchy of the road, mean the responsibility is with motorists more than ever. They must now take extra caution when overtaking or passing vulnerable road users.
>
> "Where motorists cannot prove they acted properly, it is likely they will take most, if not all, responsibility for damages after an incident."
>
> It is later said that thousands of fairy-cyclists and drivers have invested in dashcams or helmet cameras since January.
>
> Last week, Detective Chief Superintendent Andy Cox of Lincolnshire Police, said: "The police can’t be everywhere all the time, but the public can be," and urged fairy-riders to invest in fairy-cycle-helmet or fairy-cycle-handlebar cameras to catch law-breaking motorists.
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> https://road.cc/content/news/highway-code-changes-25-video-submission-increase-292641

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Last week, Detective Chief Superintendent Andy Cox of Lincolnshire Police, said: "The police can’t be everywhere all the time, but the public can be," and urged riders to invest in helmet or handlebar cameras to catch law-breaking motorists.

GOOD ADVICE!

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 10 May 2022 09:48 UTC

Fignon's ghost | 62 posts | 12 hours ago
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Let's keep increasing the focus on those poor and dangerous drivers out there. Especially those mobile phone addict drivers. The close pass ignorance. The smidsy's. The abusive. SEND your footage to your local POLICE force.
It's guaranteed income for our understaffed emergency services.
These ignorant drivers will have to change their behaviour or big brother will (eventually) fuck them up.
It's going to take time. Keep sending the police your phone or cycle camera footage. You could be saving the life of a future cyclist. A pedestrian or child.
The time will come where these law breakers will have no alternative other than recognise ignorance is not bliss. Keep to the rules or face consequences.
SNAP THEM ALL!

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> https://road.cc/content/news/highway-code-changes-25-video-submission-increase-292641

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 10 May 2022 10:06 UTC

> The time will come where these law breakers will have no alternative other than recognise ignorance is not bliss. Keep to the rules or face consequences.
> SNAP THEM ALL!

Correct!

Get photos and/or videos of all those fairy-cyclists on footways, going
through red lights, the wrong away along one-way streets, etc.

>> https://road.cc/content/news/highway-code-changes-25-video-submission-increase-292641

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ktache replied to Fignon's ghost | 4659 posts | 12 hours ago
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Much as I support the catching of wrong'uns, I feel I must correct you on the emergency services getting money from fines. I believe the police get some of the money paid for driver awareness courses, but fines go to the treasury. So enforcing the law costs the police money, and the more they enforce the more it costs them.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 10 May 2022 16:01 UTC

On 10/05/2022 09:48, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Keep to the rules or face consequences.

> SNAP THEM ALL!

INCLUDING CYCLISTS!

--
Spike

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Awavey | 2536 posts | 22 hours ago
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Didnt we cover this one already last week ? Stats presented like this are meaningless, a 25% rise based on what ? the months before? last year? there might be a multitude of reasons why numbers of submissions rise, like for instance forces adopting a centralised dashcam service that just makes it easier to report things, that have nothing to do with the HC changes, correlation is not causation.

and how do you judge if its cycling/pedestrian numbers increasing submissions anyway,my local & neighbouring force never categorise them to that level..

Conduct a straw poll among cyclists you know or readership here, have you as a result of the HC changes submitted a dashcam video ? Yes or No. My answer is no,because I'd likely have submitted it anyway regardless. I suspect most people who run dashcam on bikes are similarly minded.

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Subject: Re: Near 25% increase in video submissions since Highway Code changes
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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 10 May 2022 16:02 UTC

Awavey | 2536 posts | 22 hours ago
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Didnt we cover this one already last week ? Stats presented like this are meaningless, a 25% rise based on what ? the months before? last year? there might be a multitude of reasons why numbers of submissions rise, like for instance forces adopting a centralised dashcam service that just makes it easier to report things, that have nothing to do with the HC changes, correlation is not causation.

and how do you judge if its cycling/pedestrian numbers increasing submissions anyway,my local & neighbouring force never categorise them to that level..

Conduct a straw poll among cyclists you know or readership here, have you as a result of the HC changes submitted a dashcam video ? Yes or No. My answer is no,because I'd likely have submitted it anyway regardless. I suspect most people who run dashcam on bikes are similarly minded.

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