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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 10 May 2022 15:58 UTC

A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.

The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely.. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.

Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.

He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.

The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184

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On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
>
> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
>
> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
>
> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
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> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
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> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184

The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.

A motorway in all but name.

Fairy-cyclists should be prohibited on it (the older route - A5 - still
exists alongside and is more than adequate for fairy-cyclists).
Fairy-cycling along a high-speed road is fraught with danger (not only
for the fairy-cyclist) and is... stupid.

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QUOTE: But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month. ENDS

A breakdown in the video remote link between the criminal driver's cell and the court room?
That's a first.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 10 May 2022 19:26 UTC

Should have been aware of cyclists as it is a time trial course:

Course details
Course D10/15 .
Start on road B5381,approximately 0.3 miles west of St Asaph Business Park . Proceed east
to St Asaph Business Park roundabout south ( 0.3 miles ) turn left to proceed north through
business park .At St Asaph Business Park roundabout (0.8 miles) .Turn left towards A55
junction 26.At junction 26 turn left down slip road onto the A55 and ride 4.5 miles west to
junction 24 at Abergele . Proceed down slip road to roundabout encircle roundabout with care
and up slip road back on to A55 . Continue on A55 and ride 4.5 miles to St Asaph Business
Park junction 26. Leave the A55 up slip road at mini roundabout turn right cross over bridge
over A55 and proceed to St Asaph Business Park roundabout north. Continue straight on over
roundabout to finish at the first lamp post on left ( 10 miles ) .

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 by: Spike - Wed, 11 May 2022 07:59 UTC

On 10/05/2022 19:26, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Should have been aware of cyclists as it is a time trial course:

> Course details
> Course D10/15 .
> Start on road B5381,approximately 0.3 miles west of St Asaph Business Park . Proceed east
> to St Asaph Business Park roundabout south ( 0.3 miles ) turn left to proceed north through
> business park .At St Asaph Business Park roundabout (0.8 miles) .Turn left towards A55
> junction 26.At junction 26 turn left down slip road onto the A55 and ride 4.5 miles west to
> junction 24 at Abergele . Proceed down slip road to roundabout encircle roundabout with care
> and up slip road back on to A55 . Continue on A55 and ride 4.5 miles to St Asaph Business
> Park junction 26. Leave the A55 up slip road at mini roundabout turn right cross over bridge
> over A55 and proceed to St Asaph Business Park roundabout north. Continue straight on over
> roundabout to finish at the first lamp post on left ( 10 miles ) .

Whoever planned that time-trial route has much to answer for.

St Asaph Business Park roundabout
junction 24 at Abergele
encircle roundabout with care
leave the A55 up slip road at mini roundabout
proceed to St Asaph Business Park roundabout north

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 by: Spike - Wed, 11 May 2022 08:30 UTC

On 10/05/2022 17:03, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> QUOTE: But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month. ENDS

> A breakdown in the video remote link between the criminal driver's cell and the court room?
> That's a first.

Looks like the Court of Mason's Opinion works on Verdict First - Trial
Later.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 11 May 2022 09:40 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:26:16 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Should have been aware of cyclists as it is a time trial course:

I remember when Sir Bradley Wiggins rode a TT on the A63 near Hull which is the fastest course in the UK - mainly due to HGVs racing for the ferries. That was before the Brexit disaster though.

Sir Bradley Wiggins will race against amateurs on open roads just outside Hull on Saturday as he bids to break the British 10-mile record.

Wiggins will be one of 150 riders taking part in a time trial organised by the City Road Club (Hull) on the A63 dual-carriageway between South Cave and North Ferriby.

The existing 10-mile record of 17min 20sec was set by Alex Dowsett last May, but Wiggins is aiming to smash it by a large margin and dip under 17 minutes.

The A63 course is well-suited to breaking the record due to the flat, smooth surface and the fact that the course is out and back, containing only one corner.

The road is not closed to traffic, however, meaning that drivers could find themselves overtaking – or being overtaken – by the world and Olympic time-trial champion.

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 13 May 2022 09:29 UTC

On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
> >
> > The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
> >
> > Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
> >
> > He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
> >
> > The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
> >
> > https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
>
> A motorway in all but name.
>
> Fairy-cyclists should be prohibited on it (the older route - A5 - still
> exists alongside and is more than adequate for fairy-cyclists).
> Fairy-cycling along a high-speed road is fraught with danger (not only
> for the fairy-cyclist) and is... stupid.

Where are we going to fit all the car parks, what alternative transport will be provided and who will pay for it?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 10:11 UTC

> The road is not closed to traffic, however, meaning that drivers could find themselves overtaking – or being overtaken – by the world and Olympic time-trial champion.

We watched Sir Brad on a bridge over the A63.

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 13 May 2022 11:20 UTC

On 13/05/2022 10:29 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
>>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
>>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
>>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
>>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
>>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184

>> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.

>> A motorway in all but name.
>
>> Fairy-cyclists should be prohibited on it (the older route - A5 - still
>> exists alongside and is more than adequate for fairy-cyclists).
>> Fairy-cycling along a high-speed road is fraught with danger (not only
>> for the fairy-cyclist) and is... stupid.
>
> Where are we going to fit all the car parks, what alternative transport will be provided and who will pay for it?

What are you talking about?

PS: There are sections of the A55 expressway (on the mainland) where
fairy-cycling IS prohibited. There is no excuse for not doing the same
for the section mentioned in the report. The A5 is an alternative route
and is actually shorter between the A55 interchanges in question.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 13:49 UTC

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 11:11:29 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The road is not closed to traffic, however, meaning that drivers could find themselves overtaking – or being overtaken – by the world and Olympic time-trial champion.
> We watched Sir Brad on a bridge over the A63.

And here he is:

https://e2.365dm.com/15/04/1600x900/sir-bradley-wiggins-three-days-of-de-panne-team-sky_3285019.jpg

We were there and drivers gave the KNIGHT OF THE REALM a full lane as there were coppers eveywhere. :-)

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 13 May 2022 14:09 UTC

On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 12:20:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 10:29 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
> >>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
> >>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
> >>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
> >>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
> >>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
>
>
> >> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
>
> >> A motorway in all but name.
> >
> >> Fairy-cyclists should be prohibited on it (the older route - A5 - still
> >> exists alongside and is more than adequate for fairy-cyclists).
> >> Fairy-cycling along a high-speed road is fraught with danger (not only
> >> for the fairy-cyclist) and is... stupid.
> >
> > Where are we going to fit all the car parks, what alternative transport will be provided and who will pay for it?
> What are you talking about?
>

Cars will only be allowed to use motorways so the drivers will need somewhere to leave their vehicles and will need other forms of transport to complete their journey.

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 13 May 2022 14:13 UTC

On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
> >
> > The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
> >
> > Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
> >
> > He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
> >
> > The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
> >
> > https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
>
> A motorway in all but name.
>
As is the A303 Zeals/Bourton bypass. Yet, as been pointed out before, it has been built across a public footpath that has been there since time immemorial and traffic on the road has to give way to pedestrians.

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 13 May 2022 14:15 UTC

On 13/05/2022 03:09 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 12:20:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 13/05/2022 10:29 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
>>>>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
>>>>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
>>>>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
>>>>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
>>>>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
>>
>>
>>>> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
>>
>>>> A motorway in all but name.
>>>
>>>> Fairy-cyclists should be prohibited on it (the older route - A5 - still
>>>> exists alongside and is more than adequate for fairy-cyclists).
>>>> Fairy-cycling along a high-speed road is fraught with danger (not only
>>>> for the fairy-cyclist) and is... stupid.
>>>
>>> Where are we going to fit all the car parks, what alternative transport will be provided and who will pay for it?
>> What are you talking about?
>>
>
> Cars will only be allowed to use motorways so the drivers will need somewhere to leave their vehicles and will need other forms of transport to complete their journey.

Oh.

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 13 May 2022 14:16 UTC

On 13/05/2022 03:13 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
>>>
>>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
>>>
>>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
>>>
>>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
>>>
>>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
>>>
>>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
>> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
>>
>> A motorway in all but name.
>>
> As is the A303 Zeals/Bourton bypass. Yet, as been pointed out before, it has been built across a public footpath that has been there since time immemorial and traffic on the road has to give way to pedestrians.

In that case, that section of that road is not an expressway.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 15:53 UTC

Here is another case where a killer driver was dealt with when they collided with a cyclist on a similar TT course on the A1.

QUOTE:
Driver who killed A1 time trial cyclist she "didn't see" gets 21 months jail. A 19-year-old driver who killed a cyclist as he took part in a time trial has received a 21-month prison sentence for causing death by dangerous driving.

The victim, army officer Major Gareth Rhys Evans, had been taking part in the race, organised by Ichield Road Cycling Club, when he was hit from behind by Katie Hart’s Ford Ka on the A1 near St Neots, Cambridgeshire, in May last year.

As reported last month on road.cc, Hart, who denied the charge, told police after the collision that she had not seen Major Evans, and that the cyclist “came out of nowhere.”

At her trial last month, however, Peterborough Crown Court heard that she had narrowly missed hitting another cyclist shortly before the fatal crash, while a motorist described how she had taken no evasive action to avoid hitting the victim. ENDS

JAIL TIME SEEMS CERTAIN.

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 by: Spike - Fri, 13 May 2022 16:07 UTC

On 13/05/2022 15:53, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is another case where a killer driver was dealt with when they collided with a cyclist on a similar TT course on the A1.

> Driver who killed A1 time trial cyclist she "didn't see" gets 21 months jail. A 19-year-old driver who killed a cyclist as he took part in a time trial has received a 21-month prison sentence for causing death by dangerous driving.

> JAIL TIME SEEMS CERTAIN.

Which part of "21-month prison sentence" did you not understand?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 13 May 2022 16:15 UTC

Some years ago there was a young german girl driving through a group of Aussie Cyclists, she killed Amy and hospitalised the other 5 racers, slap on the wrist time!Follow this link http://tinyurl.com/ydkyfq9 (link is external) !
The German girl was fined and temporarily inconvenienced by not being allowed to use her car for a few months, sadly the stricter German Authorities thought she had learned her lesson.
Jail time is the only deterrent to "careless or more serious bad driving"! we see DUI treated as a Jailable offence and then only for being a "random stop" so why is killing a cyclist treated with less leniency than "Shop Lifting " as an example. Read my link and send your comments!

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 by: Mike Collins - Fri, 13 May 2022 17:50 UTC

On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 15:16:04 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 03:13 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
> >>>
> >>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
> >>>
> >>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
> >>>
> >>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
> >>>
> >>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
> >> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
> >>
> >> A motorway in all but name.
> >>
> > As is the A303 Zeals/Bourton bypass. Yet, as been pointed out before, it has been built across a public footpath that has been there since time immemorial and traffic on the road has to give way to pedestrians.
> In that case, that section of that road is not an expressway.

Please return the goalposts when you are done.

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 13 May 2022 21:50 UTC

On 13/05/2022 04:53 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here is another case where a killer driver was dealt with when they collided with a cyclist on a similar TT course on the A1.
>
> QUOTE:
> Driver who killed A1 time trial cyclist she "didn't see" gets 21 months jail. A 19-year-old driver who killed a cyclist as he took part in a time trial has received a 21-month prison sentence for causing death by dangerous driving.
>
> The victim, army officer Major Gareth Rhys Evans, had been taking part in the race, organised by Ichield Road Cycling Club, when he was hit from behind by Katie Hart’s Ford Ka on the A1 near St Neots, Cambridgeshire, in May last year.
>
> As reported last month on road.cc, Hart, who denied the charge, told police after the collision that she had not seen Major Evans, and that the cyclist “came out of nowhere.”
>
> At her trial last month, however, Peterborough Crown Court heard that she had narrowly missed hitting another cyclist shortly before the fatal crash, while a motorist described how she had taken no evasive action to avoid hitting the victim. ENDS
>
> JAIL TIME SEEMS CERTAIN.

What is this "TT course" on the A1?

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 13 May 2022 21:58 UTC

On 13/05/2022 06:50 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 15:16:04 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 13/05/2022 03:13 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
>
>>>>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
>
>>>>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
>
>>>>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
>
>>>>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
>
>>>>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184

>>>> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
>>>> A motorway in all but name.
>
>>> As is the A303 Zeals/Bourton bypass. Yet, as been pointed out before, it has been built across a public footpath that has been there since time immemorial and traffic on the road has to give way to pedestrians.

>> In that case, that section of that road is not an expressway.
>
> Please return the goalposts when you are done.

An expressway is a road built almost to the standard of a motorway, but
without its technical status.

Stretches of the A1, A2, A3, A5, A6, A8, A10, A11, A12, A13, A14, A19,
A21, A21, A23, A27, A30, A40, A42, A45, A48 and A50 would be examples of
roads which fall into the category. There are others, including the A55.

There is no reason whatsoever why fairy-cycling should be allowed on any
of the new-build lengths of A55 between Chester and Holyhead. The "old
A55" along the N Wales coast and the A5 across Anglesey are available
for fairy-cycling, milk-floats, horses and carts and other similar
vehicular traffic and are completely adequate for their requirements.

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In response to himself swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 11:11:29 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> The road is not closed to traffic, however, meaning that drivers could find themselves overtaking – or being overtaken – by the world and Olympic time-trial champion.

>> We watched Sir Brad on a bridge over the A63.

> And here he is:

> https://e2.365dm.com/15/04/1600x900/sir-bradley-wiggins-three-days-of-de-panne-team-sky_3285019.jpg

> We were there and drivers gave the KNIGHT OF THE REALM a full lane as there were coppers eveywhere[SIC]. :-)

When I put 'Bradley Wiggins' into a search engine, many of the hits
mention drugs. Why should that be?

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:49 UTC

On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 22:58:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 13/05/2022 06:50 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 15:16:04 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 13/05/2022 03:13 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 at 17:33:02 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 10/05/2022 04:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>>>> A man has been accused of careless driving and failing to stop after a crash on the A55 left a cyclist injured. William Jones, 60, appeared in court charged in connection with the incident at Valley on Anglesey on September 19 last year.
> >
> >>>>> The case was listed at Caernarfon Magistrates Court today and Jones, of Goodman Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, linked into the court remotely. But technical difficulties prevented the case from proceeding as planned and it was adjourned until next month.
> >
> >>>>> Jones is alleged to have committed four offences but has not yet entered pleas.
> >
> >>>>> He is said to have been driving a Peugeot 207 car along the A55 at Junction 3 westbound without due care and attention. He is also accused of failing to stop and failing to report an accident which caused an injury to a Cathal O'Reilly.
> >
> >>>>> The final charge is that Jones was driving without third party insurance there that day. The court adjourned the case until next month.
> >
> >>>>> https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-accused-failing-stop-a55-23915184
>
> >>>> The A55 is a grade-separated expressway.
> >>>> A motorway in all but name.
> >
> >>> As is the A303 Zeals/Bourton bypass. Yet, as been pointed out before, it has been built across a public footpath that has been there since time immemorial and traffic on the road has to give way to pedestrians.
>
> >> In that case, that section of that road is not an expressway.
> >
> > Please return the goalposts when you are done.
> An expressway is a road built almost to the standard of a motorway, but
> without its technical status.
>
> Stretches of the A1, A2, A3, A5, A6, A8, A10, A11, A12, A13, A14, A19,
> A21, A21, A23, A27, A30, A40, A42, A45, A48 and A50 would be examples of
> roads which fall into the category. There are others, including the A55.
>
> There is no reason whatsoever why fairy-cycling should be allowed on any
> of the new-build lengths of A55 between Chester and Holyhead. The "old
> A55" along the N Wales coast and the A5 across Anglesey are available
> for fairy-cycling, milk-floats, horses and carts and other similar
> vehicular traffic and are completely adequate for their requirements.

Exactly how can is a 'law abiding' speeding motorist tell the difference?

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 by: Spike - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:49 UTC

On 13/05/2022 21:58, JNugent wrote:

> There is no reason whatsoever why fairy-cycling should be allowed on any
> of the new-build lengths of A55 between Chester and Holyhead. The "old
> A55" along the N Wales coast and the A5 across Anglesey are available
> for fairy-cycling, milk-floats, horses and carts and other similar
> vehicular traffic and are completely adequate for their requirements.

Don't be silly. A TT is designed to inconvenience as many people as
possible.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:57 UTC

On Saturday, 14 May 2022 at 08:42:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> In response to himself swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 11:11:29 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> The road is not closed to traffic, however, meaning that drivers could find themselves overtaking – or being overtaken – by the world and Olympic time-trial champion.
>
> >> We watched Sir Brad on a bridge over the A63.
>
> > And here he is:
>
> > https://e2.365dm.com/15/04/1600x900/sir-bradley-wiggins-three-days-of-de-panne-team-sky_3285019.jpg
> > We were there and drivers gave the KNIGHT OF THE REALM a full lane as there were coppers eveywhere[SIC]. :-)
>
> When I put 'Bradley Wiggins' into a search engine, many of the hits
> mention drugs. Why should that be?
>
>
> --
> Spike

Because he is intelligent enough to realise the best way to fight the 'war on drugs' is to legalise cannabis and open clinics where hard drug users can get a fix of known purity drugs administered by trained professionals under sterile conditions?

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