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* OT: WhatsAppYTC#1
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|    `* OT: WhatsAppChrisND @UKRM
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|     |   | |  |     `- OT: WhatsAppDave Brown
|     |   | |  +- OT: WhatsAppYTC#1
|     |   | |  +- OT: WhatsAppMike Fleming
|     |   | |  `- OT: WhatsAppChamp
|     |   | `- OT: WhatsAppSqirrel99
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|     |   +* OT: WhatsAppgeoffC
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|     |   |  |   | |  `- OT: WhatsAppStephen Packer
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|     |   |  |   `* OT: WhatsAppStephen Packer
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|     |   |  `- OT: WhatsAppYTC#1
|     |   `- OT: WhatsAppPaul Carmichael
|     `- OT: WhatsAppPaul Carmichael
+* OT: WhatsAppHog
|`* OT: WhatsAppYTC#1
| `* OT: WhatsAppChrisND @UKRM
|  `- OT: WhatsAppYTC#1
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OT: WhatsApp

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From: bdp...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk (YTC#1)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.motorcycles
Subject: OT: WhatsApp
Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100
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 by: YTC#1 - Sat, 7 May 2022 13:18 UTC

I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.

To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.

Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
Not being seen by others?
Only joining groups I want to join?
Only letting limited people see me?

Any thoughts?

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

Re: OT: WhatsApp

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From: ala...@darkroom.+.com (Alan)
Subject: Re: OT: WhatsApp
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 by: Alan - Sat, 7 May 2022 13:55 UTC

On Sat, 07 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 wrote:

> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>
> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>
> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
> Not being seen by others?
> Only joining groups I want to join?
> Only letting limited people see me?
>
> Any thoughts?

I was under the impression that Whatsapp was a messaging service, rather
than a social media thing. That's they only way I've used it.
You just put your phone number in, and no more details required. Someone
can then send their message to your number and vice versa.
Groups can be messaged, and people can be added/removed from groups.
Otherwise that's it.

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From: loo...@colinandpat.co.uk (Colin Irvine)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: OT: WhatsApp
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 by: Colin Irvine - Sat, 7 May 2022 16:10 UTC

On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>
>To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>
>Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>Not being seen by others?

Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.

>Only joining groups I want to join?

Yes.

>Only letting limited people see me?

As above.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

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From: me...@home.nl (geoffC)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: OT: WhatsApp
Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 08:05:31 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: geoffC - Sun, 8 May 2022 08:05 UTC

On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>
>To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>
>Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>Not being seen by others?
>Only joining groups I want to join?
>Only letting limited people see me?
>
>Any thoughts?

Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is only
a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can block
everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.

--
Geoff

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Newsgroups: uk.rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: OT: WhatsApp
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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 08:58 UTC

On 07/05/2022 14:55, Alan wrote:
> On Sat, 07 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>
>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>
>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>> Not being seen by others?
>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> I was under the impression that Whatsapp was a messaging service, rather
> than a social media thing. That's they only way I've used it.
> You just put your phone number in, and no more details required. Someone
> can then send their message to your number and vice versa.

Just like SMS :-)

> Groups can be messaged, and people can be added/removed from groups.
> Otherwise that's it.

At it's core, yes it is a messaging service.
But once you have allowed it access to your contacts, then they can all
see that your are using the service[1]. That is the bit I am trying to
work around right now.

Anyone can add you to a group.

Basically, I'd like to "block all" and then add the contacts I want to
use with it.

Since FB took over WA, I have not been overly happy with it. And lke
many ditched it last year when they fubared their new terms and conditions.

[1] WA takes an encrypted copy and matches to just about everyone as far
as I can work out.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 09:08 UTC

On 07/05/2022 17:10, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>
>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>
>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>> Not being seen by others?
>
> Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.
>
>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Only letting limited people see me?
>
> As above.
>

Currently trying to work out how to do that.
I've installed it, not allowed it to read my contacts and Jean can send
me messages.

But this means that anyone with my number can send me messages
regardless (it's not that I want to ignore people, as I use other apps
and SMS to do a lot of comunicating).

Ideally I'd like a simple way to just block everyone, and then only
allow selected people/groups access. But it looks, so far, that you have
to block individually, which could take some time :-(

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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Subject: Re: OT: WhatsApp
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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 09:09 UTC

On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>
>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>
>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>> Not being seen by others?
>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is
> only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can block
> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>
An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone or a
virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my contacts list?

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: geoffC - Sun, 8 May 2022 10:24 UTC

On 08/05/2022 12:09, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>
>On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
>> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>
>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>
>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>> Not being seen by others?
>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is
>> only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can block
>> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>>
>An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone or a
>virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my contacts list?

I think you only need to use the sim once, to confirm your number and set up
WA, then you can just go back to your normal sim and WA will continue to
use the number you registered. People can only app you via that number.

--
Geoff

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 by: ChrisND @UKRM - Sun, 8 May 2022 10:57 UTC

On 08/05/2022 09:58, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>
> On 07/05/2022 14:55, Alan wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>
>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>
>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>> Not being seen by others?
>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> I was under the impression that Whatsapp was a messaging service, rather
>> than a social media thing. That's they only way I've used it.
>> You just put your phone number in, and no more details required. Someone
>> can then send their message to your number and vice versa.
>
> Just like SMS :-)
>
>> Groups can be messaged, and people can be added/removed from groups.
>> Otherwise that's it.
>
> At it's core, yes it is a messaging service.
> But once you have allowed it access to your contacts, then they can all
> see that your are using the service[1]. That is the bit I am trying to
> work around right now.
>
> Anyone can add you to a group.
>
> Basically, I'd like to "block all" and then add the contacts I want to
> use with it.

"Me Too"

I'm in a similar predicament with a group of people who 'won't use
facebook or messenger because of the security risk" (even though we
already have those) and so set up a WA group - despite *knowing* it is
owned by fb! My request to use Telegram or Signal or anything but WA
fell on deaf ears.

As somebody else has said, it was so much easier with SMS groups.
However, being able to send photos etc 'for free' is a big plus on any
other service.

Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

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 by: ChrisND @UKRM - Sun, 8 May 2022 11:00 UTC

On 07/05/2022 17:10, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>
>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>
>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>> Not being seen by others?
>
> Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.

That's the problem, I don't want any of the x00 people in my contacts
list, who happen to be on WA already, suddenly being notified that I'm
there too and sending all sorts of crap before I can shut it down!

Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

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 by: ChrisND @UKRM - Sun, 8 May 2022 11:01 UTC

On 08/05/2022 11:24, geoffC wrote:
> On 08/05/2022 12:09, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>
>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>
>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is
>>> only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can
>>> block
>>> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>>>
>> An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone or
>> a virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my contacts
>> list?
>
>
> I think you only need to use the sim once, to confirm your number and
> set up
> WA, then you can just go back to your normal sim and WA will continue to
> use the number you registered. People can only app you via that number.
>
Ok, I've been whooshed. I don't understand any of this card business.
What card?
Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

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 by: geoffC - Sun, 8 May 2022 12:08 UTC

On 08/05/2022 14:01, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>On 08/05/2022 11:24, geoffC wrote:
>> On 08/05/2022 12:09, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>>
>>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is
>>>> only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can
>>>> block
>>>> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>>>>
>>> An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone or
>>> a virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my contacts
>>> list?
>>
>>
>> I think you only need to use the sim once, to confirm your number and
>> set up
>> WA, then you can just go back to your normal sim and WA will continue to
>> use the number you registered. People can only app you via that number.
>>
>Ok, I've been whooshed. I don't understand any of this card business.
>What card?
>Chris

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card

--
Geoff

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 by: Colin Irvine - Sun, 8 May 2022 12:56 UTC

On Sun, 8 May 2022 12:00:03 +0100, "ChrisND @UKRM"
<chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 07/05/2022 17:10, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>
>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>
>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>> Not being seen by others?
>>
>> Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.
>
>That's the problem, I don't want any of the x00 people in my contacts
>list, who happen to be on WA already, suddenly being notified that I'm
>there too and sending all sorts of crap before I can shut it down!

I'm in four WhatsApp groups, and no-one outside those groups has ever
tried to text me. It might help that my "About" entry is "I use
WhatsApp as little as possible"!

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

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 by: ChrisND @UKRM - Sun, 8 May 2022 15:19 UTC

On 08/05/2022 13:08, geoffC wrote:
> On 08/05/2022 14:01, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>> On 08/05/2022 11:24, geoffC wrote:
>>> On 08/05/2022 12:09, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
>>>>> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment
>>>>>> ride today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>>>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number
>>>>> is only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You
>>>>> can block
>>>>> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>>>>>
>>>> An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone
>>>> or a virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my
>>>> contacts list?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you only need to use the sim once, to confirm your number and
>>> set up
>>> WA, then you can just go back to your normal sim and WA will continue to
>>> use the number you registered. People can only app you via that number.
>>>
>> Ok, I've been whooshed. I don't understand any of this card business.
>> What card?
>> Chris
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card

Gotcha - Doh!
<slaps forehead>
Ta
C

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
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 by: ChrisND @UKRM - Sun, 8 May 2022 15:20 UTC

On 08/05/2022 13:56, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Sun, 8 May 2022 12:00:03 +0100, "ChrisND @UKRM"
> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 07/05/2022 17:10, Colin Irvine wrote:
>>> On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>
>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>
>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>
>>> Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.
>>
>> That's the problem, I don't want any of the x00 people in my contacts
>> list, who happen to be on WA already, suddenly being notified that I'm
>> there too and sending all sorts of crap before I can shut it down!
>
> I'm in four WhatsApp groups, and no-one outside those groups has ever
> tried to text me. It might help that my "About" entry is "I use
> WhatsApp as little as possible"!
>
Yes, that's a good 'about'
Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 17:14 UTC

On 08/05/2022 11:57, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 08/05/2022 09:58, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 07/05/2022 14:55, Alan wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>

<snip>
>>
>> Anyone can add you to a group.
>>
>> Basically, I'd like to "block all" and then add the contacts I want to
>> use with it.
>
> "Me Too"
>
> I'm in  a similar predicament with a group of people who 'won't use
> facebook or messenger because of the security risk" (even though we
> already have those) and so set up a WA group - despite *knowing* it is
> owned by fb!  My request to use Telegram or Signal or anything but WA
> fell on deaf ears.

I've persueded a lot of people over to Signal and Telegram, but I doubt
I will be in a good position with the blood bike group.

I might introduce them to NextCloud talk :-). Get a few people with
RaspPI and away you go :-)

>
> As somebody else has said, it was so much easier with SMS groups.
> However, being able to send photos etc 'for free' is a big plus on any
> other service.

Pretty sure Vodafone don't charge me for sending pics via SMS.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 17:15 UTC

On 08/05/2022 12:00, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 07/05/2022 17:10, Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>
>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>
>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>> Not being seen by others?
>>
>> Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.
>
> That's the problem, I don't want any of the x00 people in my contacts
> list, who happen to be on WA already, suddenly being notified that I'm
> there too and sending all sorts of crap before I can shut it down!
>

Solution so far seems to be just don't let WA access to your contacts.
Then when someone messages you, add them to the contacts on WA.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 17:16 UTC

On 08/05/2022 13:56, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Sun, 8 May 2022 12:00:03 +0100, "ChrisND @UKRM"
> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 07/05/2022 17:10, Colin Irvine wrote:
>>> On Sat, 7 May 2022 14:18:02 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>
>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>
>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>
>>> Outside a group, you'll only be seen by those who have your number.
>>
>> That's the problem, I don't want any of the x00 people in my contacts
>> list, who happen to be on WA already, suddenly being notified that I'm
>> there too and sending all sorts of crap before I can shut it down!
>
> I'm in four WhatsApp groups, and no-one outside those groups has ever
> tried to text me. It might help that my "About" entry is "I use
> WhatsApp as little as possible"!
>

I have written something similar :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: YTC#1 - Sun, 8 May 2022 17:17 UTC

On 08/05/2022 11:24, geoffC wrote:
> On 08/05/2022 12:09, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>
>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>
>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is
>>> only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can
>>> block
>>> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>>>
>> An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone or
>> a virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my contacts
>> list?
>
>
> I think you only need to use the sim once, to confirm your number and
> set up
> WA, then you can just go back to your normal sim and WA will continue to
> use the number you registered. People can only app you via that number.
>

Easier than that.
You can use a landline to confirm your number :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: geoffC - Sun, 8 May 2022 18:58 UTC

On 08/05/2022 20:17, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>
>On 08/05/2022 11:24, geoffC wrote:
>> On 08/05/2022 12:09, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/05/2022 09:05, geoffC wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2022 16:18, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker, passed assesment ride
>>>>> today, however they do *everything* via WhatsApp.
>>>>>
>>>>> To carry on I will need to reinstall/rejoin it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Soooo, before I get on it and play, what options are open to me for :
>>>>> Not being seen by others?
>>>>> Only joining groups I want to join?
>>>>> Only letting limited people see me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Get a pre paid card and only give that number to them. Your number is
>>>> only a unique id so you still use your normal data provider. You can
>>>> block
>>>> everyone/thing else, so should be pretty watertight.
>>>>
>>> An option I have considered, but that would mean either a 2nd phone or
>>> a virtual sim. But surely a virtual sim would still access my contacts
>>> list?
>>
>>
>> I think you only need to use the sim once, to confirm your number and
>> set up
>> WA, then you can just go back to your normal sim and WA will continue to
>> use the number you registered. People can only app you via that number.
>>
>
>Easier than that.
>You can use a landline to confirm your number :-)

You're going to need a really long cable when you're out and about then :-).

--
Geoff

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 by: Hog - Mon, 9 May 2022 10:06 UTC

On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 14:18:04 UTC+1, YTC#1 wrote:

> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker,
Will they let you use your own bike and without most of the dayglo bollocks? (appropriate removable signage)

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 by: YTC#1 - Mon, 9 May 2022 10:55 UTC

On 09/05/2022 11:06, Hog wrote:
> On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 14:18:04 UTC+1, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of becoming a blood biker,
>
> Will they let you use your own bike and without most of the dayglo bollocks? (appropriate removable signage)

Yep, usually 12 months before you get to use the supplied bike (if wanted).
They do insist that you wear BB vest and have a sticker on your bike (as
you will park it near Ambulance bays).

The marked bike is tracked, so absolutly no speeding allowed with that
one. Will just stick to the Peg and XJR.

The assement was a PITA having to keep to speed limits :-)

I think I got brownie points for spotting a 20 zone.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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 by: Ace - Tue, 10 May 2022 07:41 UTC

On Sun, 8 May 2022 18:14:28 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>Pretty sure Vodafone don't charge me for sending pics via SMS.

I'm sure they don't, as you can't send pics via SMS.

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 by: Ace - Tue, 10 May 2022 07:44 UTC

On Sun, 8 May 2022 18:58:31 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:

>On 08/05/2022 20:17, YTC#1 wrote:

>>Easier than that.
>>You can use a landline to confirm your number :-)
>
>You're going to need a really long cable when you're out and about then :-).

You're missing the point - Whatsapp doesn't actually use the number
except as a reference. It's quite possible to have the app installed
on a device without a SIM card installed, like a tablet, so using a
different phone number than the one actually active on your phone os
perfectly viable.

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 by: Champ - Tue, 10 May 2022 08:11 UTC

On Tue, 10 May 2022 09:41:14 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 8 May 2022 18:14:28 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Pretty sure Vodafone don't charge me for sending pics via SMS.

>I'm sure they don't, as you can't send pics via SMS.

heh

Of course, we both know he means MMS, don't we :-)
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