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* ChipsetsSimon Cooper
+* Re: ChipsetsJaimie Vandenbergh
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 by: Simon Cooper - Thu, 20 May 2021 01:17 UTC

Finally building some PCs again, I'd done well just repurposing 3 year old ex-corporate machines of late, but someone insisted I use 9th or 10th Gen i5s this time, and I need a PCI slot so...

ASUS has quite a few "Pro" motherboards that suit. Q470, H410 and B460 chipsets mainly. Will I see any difference in reality between these? Anyone seen a good article that will explain the differences at a sensible level?

Thanks

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 by: Jaimie Vandenbergh - Thu, 20 May 2021 02:15 UTC

On 20 May 2021 at 02:17:19 BST, "Simon Cooper"
<simon.w.cooper@gmail.com> wrote:

> Finally building some PCs again, I'd done well just repurposing 3 year old ex-corporate machines of late, but someone insisted I use 9th or 10th Gen i5s this time, and I need a PCI slot so...
>
> ASUS has quite a few "Pro" motherboards that suit. Q470, H410 and B460 chipsets mainly. Will I see any difference in reality between these? Anyone seen a good article that will explain the differences at a sensible level?

Are you making high performance workstations, or gaming rigs? If not,
no-one will ever see a difference between low end and high end chipsets.
There really isn't much in it anyway, any more.

Go for whichever is the cheapest that has all the functions you need.

Cheers - Jaimie
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 by: RobH - Thu, 20 May 2021 07:25 UTC

On 20/05/2021 03:15, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On 20 May 2021 at 02:17:19 BST, "Simon Cooper"
> <simon.w.cooper@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Finally building some PCs again, I'd done well just repurposing 3 year old ex-corporate machines of late, but someone insisted I use 9th or 10th Gen i5s this time, and I need a PCI slot so...
>>
>> ASUS has quite a few "Pro" motherboards that suit. Q470, H410 and B460 chipsets mainly. Will I see any difference in reality between these? Anyone seen a good article that will explain the differences at a sensible level?
>
> Are you making high performance workstations, or gaming rigs? If not,
> no-one will ever see a difference between low end and high end chipsets.
> There really isn't much in it anyway, any more.
>
> Go for whichever is the cheapest that has all the functions you need.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie
>

Agreed.

In the end it comes down to the speed of the cpu and the amount of ram.

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 by: SH - Thu, 20 May 2021 08:01 UTC

On 20/05/2021 08:25, RobH wrote:
> On 20/05/2021 03:15, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>> On 20 May 2021 at 02:17:19 BST, "Simon Cooper"
>> <simon.w.cooper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Finally building some PCs again, I'd done well just repurposing 3
>>> year old ex-corporate machines of late, but someone insisted I use
>>> 9th or 10th Gen i5s this time, and I need a PCI slot so...
>>>
>>> ASUS has quite a few "Pro" motherboards that suit.  Q470, H410 and
>>> B460 chipsets mainly.  Will I see any difference in reality between
>>> these?  Anyone seen a good article that will explain the differences
>>> at a sensible level?
>>
>> Are you making high performance workstations, or gaming rigs? If not,
>> no-one will ever see a difference between low end and high end chipsets.
>> There really isn't much in it anyway, any more.
>>
>> Go for whichever is the cheapest that has all the functions you need.
>>
>>     Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>
> Agreed.
>
> In the end it comes down to the speed of the cpu and the amount of ram.

not necessarily just about the PCU and RAM.....

Some chipsets support PCIe 4.0, some support PCIe 3.0

Some support thunderbolt with an add on, some don't

Some support 1 off M2 Nvme, some support 2 off Nvme.

some have different numbers of PCIe lanes which can impact on some PCIe
slots if you are running 2 or more PCIe cards that use the full 8x or
16x lanes.

So its also about the features of the various chipsets that are
important to you.

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 by: Theo - Thu, 20 May 2021 09:01 UTC

Simon Cooper <simon.w.cooper@gmail.com> wrote:
> ASUS has quite a few "Pro" motherboards that suit. Q470, H410 and B460
> chipsets mainly. Will I see any difference in reality between these?
> Anyone seen a good article that will explain the differences at a sensible
> level?

It's mostly about the I/O ports:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1200

Of course, a particular motherboard may not pin them all out.

Theo

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 by: Simon Cooper - Thu, 20 May 2021 16:43 UTC

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 05:02:01 UTC-4, Theo wrote:
> Simon Cooper wrote:
> > ASUS has quite a few "Pro" motherboards that suit. Q470, H410 and B460
> > chipsets mainly. Will I see any difference in reality between these?
> > Anyone seen a good article that will explain the differences at a sensible
> > level?
> It's mostly about the I/O ports:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1200
>
> Of course, a particular motherboard may not pin them all out.
>
> Theo

It's more than they're not consistent listing features, the Q470 board didn't list dual channel memory as a thing, but I guess since the controller is in the CPU now, it's really not the board's call. That wiki adequately cleared it up, thanks.

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