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* Re: [OT] Russian T-90 tank destroyed by top-attackColin Bignell
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|`- Re: [OT] Russian T-90 tank destroyed by top-attackColin Bignell
`- Re: [OT] Russian T-90 tank destroyed by top-attackAndy Burns

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Subject: Re: [OT] Russian T-90 tank destroyed by top-attack
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 by: Colin Bignell - Fri, 7 Jul 2023 19:01 UTC

On 07/07/2023 18:49, Andy Burns wrote:
> John Rumm wrote:
>
>> https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/155-bonus
>>
>> The BONUS shell releases a cluster of sub munitions - two active
>> sensors, and two actual penetrators. So the gun gets the shell into
>> the search area, and then once deployed it can scan a kill box of
>> 32,000^2 metres. They will then self identify and then engage targets.
>
> Yes pretty smart, Russia has similar top-attack (PTKM-1R) in an
> autonomous mine format, rather than howitzer fired
>
> <https://youtu.be/8YMfaiNai84?t=25>

The howitzer version does seem to have the advantage that it does not
need a long lived power source.

--
Colin Bignell

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 by: GB - Fri, 7 Jul 2023 19:04 UTC

On 07/07/2023 20:01, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 07/07/2023 18:49, Andy Burns wrote:
>> John Rumm wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/155-bonus
>>>
>>> The BONUS shell releases a cluster of sub munitions - two active
>>> sensors, and two actual penetrators. So the gun gets the shell into
>>> the search area, and then once deployed it can scan a kill box of
>>> 32,000^2 metres. They will then self identify and then engage targets.
>>
>> Yes pretty smart, Russia has similar top-attack (PTKM-1R) in an
>> autonomous mine format, rather than howitzer fired
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/8YMfaiNai84?t=25>
>
> The howitzer version does seem to have the advantage that it does not
> need a long lived power source.
>

But, the disadvantage that it needs to survive being fired out of a
howitzer?

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 7 Jul 2023 19:14 UTC

Colin Bignell wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> <https://youtu.be/8YMfaiNai84?t=25>
>
> The howitzer version does seem to have the advantage that it does not
> need a long lived power source.

Yes, I wouldn't fancy the task of going out to replace the batteries ...

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 by: Colin Bignell - Fri, 7 Jul 2023 19:40 UTC

On 07/07/2023 20:04, GB wrote:
> On 07/07/2023 20:01, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 07/07/2023 18:49, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/155-bonus
>>>>
>>>> The BONUS shell releases a cluster of sub munitions - two active
>>>> sensors, and two actual penetrators. So the gun gets the shell into
>>>> the search area, and then once deployed it can scan a kill box of
>>>> 32,000^2 metres. They will then self identify and then engage targets.
>>>
>>> Yes pretty smart, Russia has similar top-attack (PTKM-1R) in an
>>> autonomous mine format, rather than howitzer fired
>>>
>>> <https://youtu.be/8YMfaiNai84?t=25>
>>
>> The howitzer version does seem to have the advantage that it does not
>> need a long lived power source.
>>
>
>
> But, the disadvantage that it needs to survive being fired out of a
> howitzer?

A problem that was solved as early as WW2, when the USA developed radar
fused anti-aircraft shells.

--
Colin Bignell

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