https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12226303/What-banging-sound-heard-Titan-rescue-bid.html

<quotes>

Dr Jamie Pringle, Reader in Forensic Geosciences at Keele University, thinks the sound was 'manmade'.

'The fact that it was every 30 minutes suggests a manmade cause and not vessel propellers which are continuous.'

Matthew Schanck, founder of maritime search and rescue organisation Marsar International, also suspects a manmade origin.

Schanck doesn't think the noise would have come from the Titan debris, although it may come from the Titanic 'if there is loose metal moving around' – but surface vessels and ROVs deployed in the search were the most likely cause.

</quotes>

One would have expected SAR to have followed standard procedures and turn everything off on the half hour to limit the possibility of rescue noise being mistaken for signalling noise but who knows with the competence of USCG widely being called into question.

The mystery remains that, if it wasn't the sub, then exactly what would generate something exactly matching the well known signalling protocols.

Those claiming it was obviously random noise haven't explained how anything with such repetitive regularity for hours at a time could be random.

It's classic, what looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, but isn't a duck ?

In the absence of any alternative it is not unreasonable to presume it is a duck.

Even if the armchair witch hunter generals says that's ridiculous thing to do.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:57:46 +0100, The Happy Hippy wrote:

> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12226303/What-banging-
sound-heard-Titan-rescue-bid.html
>
> <quotes>
>
> Dr Jamie Pringle, Reader in Forensic Geosciences at Keele University,
> thinks the sound was 'manmade'.
>
> 'The fact that it was every 30 minutes suggests a manmade cause and not
> vessel propellers which are continuous.'
>
> Matthew Schanck, founder of maritime search and rescue organisation
> Marsar International, also suspects a manmade origin.
>
> Schanck doesn't think the noise would have come from the Titan debris,
> although it may come from the Titanic 'if there is loose metal moving
> around' – but surface vessels and ROVs deployed in the search were the
> most likely cause.
>
> </quotes>
>
> One would have expected SAR to have followed standard procedures and
> turn everything off on the half hour to limit the possibility of rescue
> noise being mistaken for signalling noise but who knows with the
> competence of USCG widely being called into question.
>
> The mystery remains that, if it wasn't the sub, then exactly what would
> generate something exactly matching the well known signalling protocols.
>
> Those claiming it was obviously random noise haven't explained how
> anything with such repetitive regularity for hours at a time could be
> random.
>
> It's classic, what looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a
> duck, but isn't a duck ?
>
> In the absence of any alternative it is not unreasonable to presume it
> is a duck.
>
> Even if the armchair witch hunter generals says that's ridiculous thing
> to do.

The US and UK say they detected an implosion around the time the submarine
was first diving. There are two debris fields from the submarine (I don't
know how far apart - far enough to consider each field separate).

They didn't hear banging until about the last day of the search. Maybe it
was from some equipment to circulate air in one the ships on an automatic
timer or anything that activated every thirty minutes.

There's more of this story to be told. Maybe they'll find a video camera
as long as it wasn't pulverised or melted. The submarine was probably
recording video too.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:05:34 GMT
TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:57:46 +0100, The Happy Hippy wrote:
>
> > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12226303/What-banging-
> >
> sound-heard-Titan-rescue-bid.html
> >
> > <quotes>
> >
> > Dr Jamie Pringle, Reader in Forensic Geosciences at Keele
> > University, thinks the sound was 'manmade'.
> >
> > 'The fact that it was every 30 minutes suggests a manmade cause and
> > not vessel propellers which are continuous.'
> >
> > Matthew Schanck, founder of maritime search and rescue organisation
> > Marsar International, also suspects a manmade origin.
> >
> > Schanck doesn't think the noise would have come from the Titan
> > debris, although it may come from the Titanic 'if there is loose
> > metal moving around' – but surface vessels and ROVs deployed in the
> > search were the most likely cause.
> >
> > </quotes>
> >
> > One would have expected SAR to have followed standard procedures and
> > turn everything off on the half hour to limit the possibility of
> > rescue noise being mistaken for signalling noise but who knows with
> > the competence of USCG widely being called into question.
> >
> > The mystery remains that, if it wasn't the sub, then exactly what
> > would generate something exactly matching the well known signalling
> > protocols.
> >
> > Those claiming it was obviously random noise haven't explained how
> > anything with such repetitive regularity for hours at a time could
> > be random.
> >
> > It's classic, what looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks
> > like a duck, but isn't a duck ?
> >
> > In the absence of any alternative it is not unreasonable to presume
> > it is a duck.
> >
> > Even if the armchair witch hunter generals says that's ridiculous
> > thing to do.
>
>
> The US and UK say they detected an implosion around the time the
> submarine was first diving. There are two debris fields from the
> submarine (I don't know how far apart - far enough to consider each
> field separate).
>
> They didn't hear banging until about the last day of the search.
> Maybe it was from some equipment to circulate air in one the ships on
> an automatic timer or anything that activated every thirty minutes.
>
> There's more of this story to be told. Maybe they'll find a video
> camera as long as it wasn't pulverised or melted. The submarine was
> probably recording video too.

It was Tuesday and earlier when the banging was confirmed by USCG, the email from the Explorers Club sent Tuesday is a public record of that.

There's a lot of revisionism and lies going around at present.

We are told the US and UK detected an implosion on Sunday, so why did it take until Thursday to report that ?

We are also told there are two debris fields.

But in both cases there's been no evidence presented which proves what we are being told to believe.

I can't help but recall how what we were told about MH370 changed to suit the official narrative. How they completely rewrote ocean current predictions to explain why wreckage was found where the conspiracy theorists had predicted.

Here's one conspiracy theory - Someone wanted Rush or a passenger dead, or the dive to fail. What the US and UK detected as an explosion was indeed that, an attack on the sub, which coincidental with losing contact. But the vessel wasn't destroyed, passengers were alive and that banging was indeed proof of life. USCG were chosen to facilitate cover-up, only allowing military vessels into the area, refusing to let those who could have reached Titan be involved. Non-military help was only allowed once the clock had been run down, cover-up had been successful and, surprise, surprise, they found what was wanted to be found.

As I have previously said, I'm included to believe Donald Trump Jr's take on it. Things simply don't add up.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:05:34 GMT
> TWP <ngspammersad@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:57:46 +0100, The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12226303/What-banging-
>>>
>> sound-heard-Titan-rescue-bid.html
>>>
>>> <quotes>
>>>
>>> Dr Jamie Pringle, Reader in Forensic Geosciences at Keele
>>> University, thinks the sound was 'manmade'.
>>>
>>> 'The fact that it was every 30 minutes suggests a manmade cause and
>>> not vessel propellers which are continuous.'
>>>
>>> Matthew Schanck, founder of maritime search and rescue organisation
>>> Marsar International, also suspects a manmade origin.
>>>
>>> Schanck doesn't think the noise would have come from the Titan
>>> debris, although it may come from the Titanic 'if there is loose
>>> metal moving around' – but surface vessels and ROVs deployed in the
>>> search were the most likely cause.
>>>
>>> </quotes>
>>>
>>> One would have expected SAR to have followed standard procedures and
>>> turn everything off on the half hour to limit the possibility of
>>> rescue noise being mistaken for signalling noise but who knows with
>>> the competence of USCG widely being called into question.
>>>
>>> The mystery remains that, if it wasn't the sub, then exactly what
>>> would generate something exactly matching the well known signalling
>>> protocols.
>>>
>>> Those claiming it was obviously random noise haven't explained how
>>> anything with such repetitive regularity for hours at a time could
>>> be random.
>>>
>>> It's classic, what looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks
>>> like a duck, but isn't a duck ?
>>>
>>> In the absence of any alternative it is not unreasonable to presume
>>> it is a duck.
>>>
>>> Even if the armchair witch hunter generals says that's ridiculous
>>> thing to do.
>>
>>
>> The US and UK say they detected an implosion around the time the
>> submarine was first diving. There are two debris fields from the
>> submarine (I don't know how far apart - far enough to consider each
>> field separate).
>>
>> They didn't hear banging until about the last day of the search.
>> Maybe it was from some equipment to circulate air in one the ships on
>> an automatic timer or anything that activated every thirty minutes.
>>
>> There's more of this story to be told. Maybe they'll find a video
>> camera as long as it wasn't pulverised or melted. The submarine was
>> probably recording video too.
>
> It was Tuesday and earlier when the banging was confirmed by USCG, the email from the Explorers Club sent Tuesday is a public record of that.
>
> There's a lot of revisionism and lies going around at present.

Yeah, with you pretty much leading the charge

>
> We are told the US and UK detected an implosion on Sunday, so why did it take until Thursday to report that ?
>
> We are also told there are two debris fields.
>
> But in both cases there's been no evidence presented which proves what we are being told to believe.
>
> I can't help but recall how what we were told about MH370 changed to suit the official narrative. How they completely rewrote ocean current predictions to explain why wreckage was found where the conspiracy theorists had predicted.
>
> Here's one conspiracy theory - Someone wanted Rush or a passenger dead, or the dive to fail. What the US and UK detected as an explosion was indeed that, an attack on the sub, which coincidental with losing contact. But the vessel wasn't destroyed, passengers were alive and that banging was indeed proof of life. USCG were chosen to facilitate cover-up, only allowing military vessels into the area, refusing to let those who could have reached Titan be involved. Non-military help was only allowed once the clock had been run down, cover-up had been successful and, surprise, surprise, they found what was wanted to be found.
>
> As I have previously said, I'm included to believe Donald Trump Jr's take on it. Things simply don't add up.
>

OMG, a desperate and pathetic ploy to "prove" that you were not wrong
after all ! Crew survived, banging was from them, and all talk about the
sub being a piece of junk was just fear mongering !
Not only survived the deep depths, but an attack by a US sub as well !
Hippy gets his cum stained tshirt, mission accomplished ! The typical
wingnut whirlwind of bullshit that I saw coming plain as day days before
it happened.

No harm in trying I guess, trick is is to get anyone but yourself to
believe it, good luck on that.

Couple quick questions about your half baked theory though - Wouldn't
the Canadians and especially French have to be in on the coverup too,
since a French ROV was in on the discovery of wreckage ?
If the hull was intact, then was it somehow re-blown up later, or is
footage of the wreckage being faked as well ?

--
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for
light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:17:46 -0400
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> is footage of the wreckage being faked as well ?

https://uk.pcmag.com/social-media/147474/ai-generated-images-of-titan-submersible-debris-hit-twitter-facebook

<quote>

With no official photos of the Titan wreckage released, unscrupulous Twitter and Facebook accounts have stepped in with fake photos they created using AI image generators.

</quote>

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:17:46 -0400
JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:

> Not only survived the deep depths, but an attack by a US sub as well !

I never claimed that, that's just more of your made up shit. But it's a good point. If a US, UK or NATO sub collided with it or did instigate some kind of attack against it they'd sure want to hush that up like MH370 was.

Or maybe it was a Russian sub, or maybe the Ukrainian gang who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, who have been shelling their own nuke plant to blow that up, who breached their own dam, looking to again blame Russia, another false flag intended to take NATO into World War III.

But that's all distraction. The question remains; what random or natural noises could have caused repetitive banging for three minutes every half hour for hours on end which was perceived to be 'proof of life' signalling by experts in such things.

And, why did USCG prevent all non-military vessels able to reach the ocean floor from participating until they were sure all onboard were dead ?

I don't have the answers. Nor do you.

In article <20230625210356.00007b8d@ntlworld.invalid>,
The Happy Hippy <the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.invalid> wrote:

> The question remains; what random or natural noises could have caused repetitive
> banging for three minutes every half hour for hours on end

I Googled a bit, and while some sources say that "bang three minutes every
half-hour" is a familiar protocol, I could not find a source stating that
this is what happened; all I found was "banging (roughly) every half-hour",
but not for three minutes.

Then you have

"The banging first came every 30 minutes and was heard again four hours later"

And

<quote>

'Several flights heard noises yesterday... the P-3 heard noises today as
well. We don't know what the noises are, to be frank with you... they have
been described as banging noises but they are inconclusive.

'The good news is we are searching in the area where the noises were
detected,' he said.

</quote>

And

"The Titan reportedly sends a ping to the Polar Prince every 15 minutes. The
last ping was received while the vessel floated above the Titanic wreckage
at about 3 pm local time."

So if they had a pinger, why have they stopped using it, unless they were
already dead?

Additionally, has any expert commented on the obvious questions:

1) How far were the sensors? How could they detect this very weak sound,
if they were miles away?

2) Where is the data with the "banging"?

So far it seems like bad engineering and wishful thinking, nothing more.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:17:46 -0400
> JeSSe <zo@so.org> wrote:
>
>> Not only survived the deep depths, but an attack by a US sub as well !
>
> I never claimed that,

You said it was "attacked but not destroyed" What else besides a sub can
attack another sub 100's or 1,000's of ft under the waves ?

>
> The question remains; what random or natural noises could have caused repetitive banging for three minutes every half hour for hours on end which was perceived to be 'proof of life' signalling by experts in such things.

"three minutes every half hour for hours on end", personally have not
heard that was the case or anything near, probably more of your wishful
thinking from some cherry picked tiktok "expert"
>
> And, why did USCG prevent all non-military vessels able to reach the ocean floor from participating until they were sure all onboard were dead ?
>
> I don't have the answers. Nor do you.

No I don't have the answers, mostly because I don't know what the fuck
you are talking about.
Which non military vessels capable of reaching the ocean floor were
prevented from participating ? [It was near certain they were dead 24
hours after they vanished,99% certain when the much ballyhooed oxygen
timeline ran out, then 100% certain once wreckage of the shoddy craft
was discovered BY A NON MILITARY ROV]

Trump shoots down Iranian jetliner - Oopps no, Iran did it

USA shoots down Malaysian jetliner - Oops no, suicidal muslim pilot
crashed it

Trump poisoned China with covid during military games - Oops no, china
poisoned itself and the world

And now, USA sinks civilian sub

I am noticing a pattern here ,,,,

--
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for
light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.