Hi,
My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
on/off via settings (I think).

She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
central locking engages and locks the car immediately.

A few questions:
Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
in the lock, would activate the central locking?

Would this be an MoT failure?

As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
think) would work?

I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
Thanks.

Grumps <not@here.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
> on/off via settings (I think).
>
> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
> central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>
> A few questions:
> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
> driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
> in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>
> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
> think) would work?
>
> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
> Thanks.
>

Just a thought, if I unlock my car with my fob but don’t open a door soon
enough it re-locks. I’m guessing it maybe just uses the courtesy light
switch to detect door opening.

Long shot, but is the courtesy light switch working on the drivers door?

Tim

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Grumps <not@here.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
> on/off via settings (I think).
>
> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
> central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>
> A few questions:
> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
> driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
> in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>
> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
> think) would work?
>
> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
> Thanks.
>

Any help? Final solution seems to be a change of locking mech and cable.
(You maybe already knew this)…

https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/207-locks-it-self-when-door-closed.232817/

Tim

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Is there an epidemic of French cars with central locking issues of late.
I've heard of ceveral Citroens with some strange quirks of late like
spontaneous unlocking for no reason, Locking about a second after an unlock
and even locking people in the car.
Brian

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"Tim+" <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1513296683.710673590.722888.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net...
> Grumps <not@here.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
>> on/off via settings (I think).
>>
>> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
>> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
>> central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>>
>> A few questions:
>> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
>> driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
>> in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>>
>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>>
>> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
>> think) would work?
>>
>> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> Just a thought, if I unlock my car with my fob but don't open a door soon
> enough it re-locks. I'm guessing it maybe just uses the courtesy light
> switch to detect door opening.
>
> Long shot, but is the courtesy light switch working on the drivers door?
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Please don't feed the trolls

Grumps wrote:

> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
> Would this be an MoT failure?

I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.

On 10/07/2023 10:30, Tim+ wrote:
> Grumps <not@here.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
>> on/off via settings (I think).
>>
>> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
>> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
>> central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>>
>> A few questions:
>> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
>> driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
>> in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>>
>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>>
>> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
>> think) would work?
>>
>> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> Any help? Final solution seems to be a change of locking mech and cable.
> (You maybe already knew this)…
>
> https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/207-locks-it-self-when-door-closed.232817/
>
> Tim

Yeah, I saw that posting. But thanks.
I'll have to give it a try. Sounds like it is a solution.
I wonder what goes wrong with the lock that causes this behaviour.

On 10/07/2023 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> Grumps wrote:
>
>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.

That's what I thought.
They might be a bit miffed if they drive it into the testing bay and
then close the door. The car will lock itself.

On 10/07/2023 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> Grumps wrote:
>
>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.
>

I think you'll find it does if you cannot unlock it from the inside as
how else would you be able to get out of the car in an accident?

S

Grumps <not@here.com> wrote:
> On 10/07/2023 10:30, Tim+ wrote:
>> Grumps <not@here.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>>> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
>>> on/off via settings (I think).
>>>
>>> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
>>> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
>>> central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>>>
>>> A few questions:
>>> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
>>> driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
>>> in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>>>
>>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>>>
>>> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
>>> think) would work?
>>>
>>> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> Any help? Final solution seems to be a change of locking mech and cable.
>> (You maybe already knew this)…
>>
>> https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/207-locks-it-self-when-door-closed.232817/
>>
>> Tim
>
> Yeah, I saw that posting. But thanks.
> I'll have to give it a try. Sounds like it is a solution.
> I wonder what goes wrong with the lock that causes this behaviour.
>

Probably a micro switch in the door lock I would guess. It you can get at
it that’s where I would start.

Tim

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On 10/07/2023 11:10, SH wrote:
> On 10/07/2023 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Grumps wrote:
>>
>>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>>
>> I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.
>>
>
>
> I think you'll find it does if you cannot unlock it from the inside as
> how else would you be able to get out of the car in an accident?
>
> S

In this case, if you were sitting in the car and closed the driver's
door, the car would immediately lock itself. But you can still open any
of the doors from the inside just by using the internal door handle.

On 10/07/2023 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> Grumps wrote:
>
>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.

They might get a bit pissed if they leave the keys in the ignition and
close the door! I would remove the fuse to make sure!

On 7/10/2023 5:06 AM, Grumps wrote:
> Hi,
> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned on/off via settings (I think).
>
> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>
> A few questions:
> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What, in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>
> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I think) would work?
>
> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
> Thanks.

On some cars, you push the lock pin downwards inside the car, at
the same time as you open the exterior door handle, and that puts
the pin in the downward position. And the car might then lock all
doors when you close the driver door shut.

If there is a sensor that senses the position of the pin, and that
has failed (short or open circuit), it could be that the lock is
"signaling" that it is currently locked, when visually to you, the
operator, the pin is in the upward position.

I couldn't tell from a takeapart, exactly what features it might have,
and what feature might be "failing on bad sensor". You can't tell from
a vid like this, where all the microswitches are located.

"Peugeot 207 door lock door handle door panel & speaker replacement guide"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkmOHC7U7Jw

https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/drivers-door-open-switch-location.178122/

"The switch is inside the locking mechanism which is likely to be a sealed unit."

Paul

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 20:03:38 +1000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> Grumps wrote:
>
>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.

But may well care if you can't get out of the car when you need to.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 23:06:42 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

> On 10/07/2023 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Grumps wrote:
>>
>>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>> I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.
>
> They might get a bit pissed if they leave the keys in the ignition and
> close the door! I would remove the fuse to make sure!

And we now have one who was also a 'victim' with
threats of what would happen if they named him,
even before he has been publicly named by the BBC
or the Sun and it remains to be seen how many more
of them there are once he does get named.

On 12/07/2023 06:46, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 23:06:42 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/07/2023 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Grumps wrote:
>>>
>>>> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
>>>> Would this be an MoT failure?
>>>  I don't think the MOT gives a toss about locks.
>>
>> They might get a bit pissed if they leave the keys in the ignition and
>> close the door! I would remove the fuse to make sure!
>
> And we now have one who was also a 'victim' with
> threats of what would happen if they named him,
> even before he has been publicly named by the BBC
> or the Sun and it remains to be seen how many more
> of them there are once he does get named.

Evidence that you've lost it.

On 10/07/2023 10:06, Grumps wrote:
> Hi,
> My daughter has an old 207 and it has a central locking issue.
> What I will attempt to describe is not a feature that can be turned
> on/off via settings (I think).
>
> She can unlock the car using the keyfob, and all doors unlock.
> If she then opens and closes the driver's door, upon closing, the
> central locking engages and locks the car immediately.
>
> A few questions:
> Some web discussions seem to indicate it is the door lock on the
> driver's door. What would be the failure mode if this were true? What,
> in the lock, would activate the central locking?
>
> Would this be an MoT failure?
>
> As a temporary fix, do you think removing the fuse (F15 on this model I
> think) would work?
>
> I don't have access to the car, but my daughter could try a few things.
> Thanks.

With central locking anything is possible.

My Scudo van once had a problem that even when deadlocked if you pulled
on the external passenger door handle the front doors unlocked.