On 22/07/2023 12:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/07/2023 11:35, SteveW wrote:
>> On 22/07/2023 09:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>
>>>> So are you saying that in winter the OP can expect to get a massive
>>>> 375W and
>>>> in summer 1.875kW ? Would that be average over some period, or peak
>>>> at 12.00
>>>> midday on some average day?
>>>
>>> My system is a smaller 3.64 kWp, and has been in operation since
>>> 2010. The FIT has long since paid for the system. The average
>>> monthly kWh over that period is as below.
>>>
>>> Jan    108
>>> Feb    179
>>> Mar    295
>>> Apr    419
>>> May    490
>>> Jun    475
>>> Jul    469
>>> Aug    435
>>> Sep    334
>>> Oct    213
>>> Nov    118
>>> Dec    91
>>>
>>> Total    3528
>>
>> At the current price of electricity, that's just under £1000. Double
>> it for Tim+'s larger quoted system and it does pay off the 14K
>> (ignoring interest) in 7 years.
>>
> OTOH how long can electricity prices stay at this 'let's finance
> windmills' level?
> I would expect new nuclear to at leats halve the cost of electricity by
> 2030

But that *is* 7 years away.

On 22/07/2023 13:41, SteveW wrote:
> On 22/07/2023 12:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 22/07/2023 11:35, SteveW wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2023 09:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So are you saying that in winter the OP can expect to get a massive
>>>>> 375W and
>>>>> in summer 1.875kW ? Would that be average over some period, or peak
>>>>> at 12.00
>>>>> midday on some average day?
>>>>
>>>> My system is a smaller 3.64 kWp, and has been in operation since
>>>> 2010. The FIT has long since paid for the system. The average
>>>> monthly kWh over that period is as below.
>>>>
>>>> Jan    108
>>>> Feb    179
>>>> Mar    295
>>>> Apr    419
>>>> May    490
>>>> Jun    475
>>>> Jul    469
>>>> Aug    435
>>>> Sep    334
>>>> Oct    213
>>>> Nov    118
>>>> Dec    91
>>>>
>>>> Total    3528
>>>
>>> At the current price of electricity, that's just under £1000. Double
>>> it for Tim+'s larger quoted system and it does pay off the 14K
>>> (ignoring interest) in 7 years.
>>>
>> OTOH how long can electricity prices stay at this 'let's finance
>> windmills' level?
>> I would expect new nuclear to at leats halve the cost of electricity
>> by 2030
>
> But that *is* 7 years away.
>
It will start earlier. Current electricity prices will destroy industry.
Renewables only have a few years to run. Expect fracking and north sea
gas to act as interim power sources pulling electricity prices down as
net zero disintegrates under total indifference of the public to the
'climate change' faux narrative.

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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Renewables only have a few years to run. Expect fracking and north sea
> gas to act as interim power sources pulling electricity prices down as
> net zero disintegrates under total indifference of the public to the
> 'climate change' faux narrative.

Work stops on the Norfolk offshore wind farm due to costs

<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-66263340>

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On 22/07/2023 12:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/07/2023 11:35, SteveW wrote:
>> On 22/07/2023 09:46, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>
>>>> So are you saying that in winter the OP can expect to get a massive
>>>> 375W and
>>>> in summer 1.875kW ? Would that be average over some period, or peak
>>>> at 12.00
>>>> midday on some average day?
>>>
>>> My system is a smaller 3.64 kWp, and has been in operation since
>>> 2010. The FIT has long since paid for the system. The average
>>> monthly kWh over that period is as below.
>>>
>>> Jan    108
>>> Feb    179
>>> Mar    295
>>> Apr    419
>>> May    490
>>> Jun    475
>>> Jul    469
>>> Aug    435
>>> Sep    334
>>> Oct    213
>>> Nov    118
>>> Dec    91
>>>
>>> Total    3528
>>
>> At the current price of electricity, that's just under £1000. Double
>> it for Tim+'s larger quoted system and it does pay off the 14K
>> (ignoring interest) in 7 years.
>>
> OTOH how long can electricity prices stay at this 'let's finance
> windmills' level?
> I would expect new nuclear to at leats halve the cost of electricity by
> 2030
>

No it won't. The generators and distributors will simply
make lots more profit. Buy shares in National Grid, SSE etc