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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Tue, 17 May 2022 17:28 UTC

In an unexpected turn of events, American automobile manufacturer Ford has launched its ‘Park the Car’ initiative, which aims to encourage motorists to swap the car for active travel for short journeys of up to five kilometres.

In a statement released last week, Ford of Europe’s President Stuart Rowley announced that the company will be supporting and investing in active travel schemes, and has set a target of one million urban “journey swaps” over the next 12 months.

Rowley says that encouraging active travel is essential for both “securing a greener future for everyone” and helping people “live a healthier, longer life”.

While the West Midlands Cycling and Walking Commissioner Adam Tranter is prepared to give Ford the benefit of the doubt, others were dubious about the car maker’s motives:

https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-17-may-2022-292815#live-blog-item-34117

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 by: Spike - Wed, 18 May 2022 08:30 UTC

On 17/05/2022 17:28, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> encouraging active travel is essential for both “securing a greener future for everyone” and helping people “live a healthier, longer life”.

"We cannot point to a single cyclist that has been saved"

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 18 May 2022 09:58 UTC

Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.

Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.

(((APPLAUSE)))

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 by: Spike - Wed, 18 May 2022 13:28 UTC

On 18/05/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.

> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.

> (((APPLAUSE)))

Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?

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Spike

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 by: JNugent - Wed, 18 May 2022 13:32 UTC

On 18/05/2022 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:

> On 18/05/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.
>
>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.
>
>> (((APPLAUSE)))
>
> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
> must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?

I wonder what John "Chauffeur-driven limo for 100 yards from hotel to
conference centre" Prescott would say about it?

Other than that it was alright as long as it only applied to little
people, I mean.

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 by: Spike - Wed, 18 May 2022 13:59 UTC

On 18/05/2022 13:32, JNugent wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:

>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
>> must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?

> I wonder what John "Chauffeur-driven limo for 100 yards from hotel to
> conference centre" Prescott would say about it?

> Other than that it was alright as long as it only applied to little
> people, I mean.

Quite. And the little people fall for it.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:49 UTC

We are already working hard to bring about the electrification revolution – targeting 600,000 all-electric vehicle sales by 2026. By 2035, we will achieve zero emissions for all vehicle sales and carbon neutrality across our European footprint of facilities, logistics and suppliers.

But there is something else we can all do, right now. Park the car.

https://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/ford-blog/new-initiative-park-the-car

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 21 May 2022 08:52 UTC

On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:32:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:
>
> > On 18/05/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.
> >
> >> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.
> >
> >> (((APPLAUSE)))
> >
> > Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
> > must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?
> I wonder what John "Chauffeur-driven limo for 100 yards from hotel to
> conference centre" Prescott would say about it?
>
> Other than that it was alright as long as it only applied to little
> people, I mean.

He would turn around, identify his target and punch someone. The victim would be arrested and charged with something the Police later made up after searching through the law books to see what they could charge the victim with..

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 by: JNugent - Sat, 21 May 2022 14:05 UTC

On 21/05/2022 09:52 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:32:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 18/05/2022 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:
>>> On 18/05/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>> Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.
>
>>>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.
>
>>>> (((APPLAUSE)))
>
>>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
>>> must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?

>> I wonder what John "Chauffeur-driven limo for 100 yards from hotel to
>> conference centre" Prescott would say about it?
>> Other than that it was alright as long as it only applied to little
>> people, I mean.
>
> He would turn around, identify his target and punch someone. The victim would be arrested and charged with something the Police later made up after searching through the law books to see what they could charge the victim with.

I fear that you are correct.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 21 May 2022 16:54 UTC

On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 15:05:50 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 21/05/2022 09:52 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:32:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 18/05/2022 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:
> >>> On 18/05/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>>> Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.
> >
> >>>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.
> >
> >>>> (((APPLAUSE)))
> >
> >>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
> >>> must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?
>
> >> I wonder what John "Chauffeur-driven limo for 100 yards from hotel to
> >> conference centre" Prescott would say about it?
> >> Other than that it was alright as long as it only applied to little
> >> people, I mean.
> >
> > He would turn around, identify his target and punch someone. The victim would be arrested and charged with something the Police later made up after searching through the law books to see what they could charge the victim with.
> I fear that you are correct.

In what way? A tax payer threw an egg on a taxpayer owned jacket and the freeloading parasite punched him.
The victim was arrested and the assailant walked away with tax payer funded Police protection.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 22 May 2022 08:52 UTC

On 21/05/2022 14:24, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!

But what is London's ULEZ working at, apart from filling coffers?

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On 21/05/2022 05:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 15:05:50 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 21/05/2022 09:52 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 14:32:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 18/05/2022 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:
>>>>> On 18/05/2022 09:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Automaker Ford have launched a new campaign “Park The Car”, acknowledging that, even with EVs, “a traffic jam with no emissions is still a traffic jam”.
>>>
>>>>>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us must change”, suggesting walking or cycling instead.
>>>
>>>>>> (((APPLAUSE)))
>>>
>>>>> Ford’s President describes driving short journeys as a habit “many of us
>>>>> must change”, quite possibly before getting into the chauffeur'd limo?
>>
>>>> I wonder what John "Chauffeur-driven limo for 100 yards from hotel to
>>>> conference centre" Prescott would say about it?
>>>> Other than that it was alright as long as it only applied to little
>>>> people, I mean.
>>>
>>> He would turn around, identify his target and punch someone. The victim would be arrested and charged with something the Police later made up after searching through the law books to see what they could charge the victim with.
>> I fear that you are correct.
>
> In what way? A tax payer threw an egg on a taxpayer owned jacket and the freeloading parasite punched him.
> The victim was arrested and the assailant walked away with tax payer funded Police protection.

My reading of that incident was that rather than making a political
point, the egg-thrower was seeking local notoriety and "kudos", which
was hardly praiseworthy.

But Prescott's reaction was well OTT.

They were as bad as each other.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:22 UTC

On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 3:24:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > We are already working hard to bring about the electrification revolution – targeting 600,000 all-electric vehicle sales by 2026. By 2035, we will achieve zero emissions for all vehicle sales and carbon neutrality across our European footprint of facilities, logistics and suppliers.
> >
> > But there is something else we can all do, right now. Park the car.
> >
> > https://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/ford-blog/new-initiative-park-the-car
> Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!

My car is ULEX exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 22 May 2022 12:32 UTC

On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 3:24:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > We are already working hard to bring about the electrification revolution – targeting 600,000 all-electric vehicle sales by 2026. By 2035, we will achieve zero emissions for all vehicle sales and carbon neutrality across our European footprint of facilities, logistics and suppliers.
> >
> > But there is something else we can all do, right now. Park the car.
> >
> > https://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/ford-blog/new-initiative-park-the-car
> Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!

My car is ULEZ exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 22 May 2022 16:29 UTC

On 22/05/2022 12:22, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 3:24:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 4:49:05 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> We are already working hard to bring about the electrification revolution – targeting 600,000 all-electric vehicle sales by 2026. By 2035, we will achieve zero emissions for all vehicle sales and carbon neutrality across our European footprint of facilities, logistics and suppliers.

>>> But there is something else we can all do, right now. Park the car.

>>> https://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/ford-blog/new-initiative-park-the-car
>> Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!

> My car is ULEX exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.

And what pollution did your trip produce? You do know, don't you?

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On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 1:32:26 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 4:49:05 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > We are already working hard to bring about the electrification revolution – targeting 600,000 all-electric vehicle sales by 2026. By 2035, we will achieve zero emissions for all vehicle sales and carbon neutrality across our European footprint of facilities, logistics and suppliers.
> > >
> > > But there is something else we can all do, right now. Park the car.
> > >
> > > https://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/ford-blog/new-initiative-park-the-car
> > Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!
> My car is ULEZ exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.

We even walked a mile to the car parking instead of taking a taxi.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 22 May 2022 16:34 UTC

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> My car is ULEZ exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.

How much better for the environment had you not made the journey at all.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 22 May 2022 16:52 UTC

On 22/05/2022 16:32, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 1:32:26 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 3:24:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!
>> My car is ULEZ exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.

> We even walked a mile to the car parking instead of taking a taxi.

So you avoided the delights of London's public transport?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 22 May 2022 16:55 UTC

On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 5:32:04 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

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> > My car is ULEZ exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.
> We even walked a mile to the car parking instead of taking a taxi.

Might as well make use of the "cleaner" air - ho ho.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 22 May 2022 16:58 UTC

On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 5:55:29 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 5:32:04 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > Saw loads of cyclists and electric cars in London today - ULEZ must be working!
> > > My car is ULEZ exempt and I didn't drive into the Congestion Charge zone - win win.
> > We even walked a mile to the car parking instead of taking a taxi.
> Might as well make use of the "cleaner" air - ho ho.

Despite this tragedy:
A coroner has called for a change in the law after air pollution led to the death of a nine-year-old girl. Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah, who lived near the South Circular Road in Lewisham, south-east London, died in 2013. An inquest had found air pollution "made a material contribution" to her death.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 22 May 2022 17:03 UTC

On 22/05/2022 16:58, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> An inquest had found air pollution "made a material contribution" to her death.

The London smog of 1952 killed quite a few as well, much of it covered up.

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