Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
them for an hour.
Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
almost no effort.

--
Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

On 25/07/2023 08:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
> them for an hour.
> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
> almost no effort.
>
>
>

Your mummy never told you, bash the edge of the lid with a mallet,
failing that a small lump of wood of that sort of size.

--
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:02:24 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga,
> and left them for an hour.
> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
> almost no effort.
>
>
>

Devices for gripping over-tight jar lids are available, every home
should have one.
--
Davey.

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
> them for an hour.
> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
> almost no effort.

Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t burn your
hands…

--
Spike

On 25/07/2023 08:59, Davey wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:02:24 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
>> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga,
>> and left them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Devices for gripping over-tight jar lids are available, every home
> should have one.

My late partner had one of those. She still needed me to use it for her
as it required a larger hand than she had to grip it well.

--
Colin Bignell

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 08:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> >
> > Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
> > off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
> > for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
> > them for an hour.
> > Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
> > almost no effort.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Your mummy never told you, bash the edge of the lid with a mallet,
> failing that a small lump of wood of that sort of size.
>
Or usually more convenient, tap round the edge of the lid on a hard
floor or worktop. No need to find an implement to do it with then! :-)

--
Chris Green
·

On 25/07/2023 08:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
> them for an hour.
> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
> almost no effort.
>
>
>

Jarkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK4m2966b_A

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On 25/07/2023 08:59, Davey wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:02:24 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
>> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga,
>> and left them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Devices for gripping over-tight jar lids are available, every home
> should have one.
I had one but it didn't fit, have ordered a strap wrench for next time.

--
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>> them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>
> Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
> ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t burn your
> hands…
>

It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
rubber seal.
I could have made a hole in the lid...
--
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

On 25/07/2023 10:11, alan_m wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 08:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
>> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and
>> left them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Jarkey
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK4m2966b_A
>
>
Never seen one of those before. Probably would work well in my situation
--
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

Is there not a raised bit in the centre of the lid to press? Otherwise a
strong fork under one side can let in enough air to allow it to be
unscrewed. Brian

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"The Natural Philosopher" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:u9ns20$11mej$3@dont-email.me...
>
> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit for
> weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left them for
> an hour.
> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with almost
> no effort.
>
>
>
> --
> Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>> them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>
> Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
> ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t burn your
> hands…
>
Yes.
My mother taught me that one.
Or stand the jar upside down in a pan of hot water.

On 25/07/2023 10:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
>>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>>> them for an hour.
>>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>>> almost no effort.
>>
>> Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
>> ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t burn
>> your
>> hands…
>>
>
> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
> rubber seal.
> I could have made a hole in the lid...

The hot water expands the stuff inside, lessening the suction.

On 25.7.23 10:18 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 10:11, alan_m wrote:
>> On 25/07/2023 08:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>>> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
>>> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and
>>> left them for an hour.
>>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>>> almost no effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Jarkey
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK4m2966b_A
>>
>>
> Never seen one of those before. Probably would work well in my situation

They work a treat. We have one of that type and a similar plastic
device for opening ring-pull cans (most are these days). They're
probably the most useful devices in the kitchen, and inexpensive too.

--
Tetbury, Gloucestershire , UK

Licentiae, quam stulti libertatem vocabant - Tacitus

On 25 Jul 2023 at 08:59:36 BST, Davey wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:02:24 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
>> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga,
>> and left them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Devices for gripping over-tight jar lids are available, every home
> should have one.

Pair of marigolds does it for me and my arthritic thumbs.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

In article <u9o3ss$12u40$2@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
> > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
> >> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
> >> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and
> >> left them for an hour. Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the
> >> lid popped off with almost no effort.
> >
> > Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
> > ease the lid's removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don't burn
> > your hands...
> >

> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
> rubber seal. I could have made a hole in the lid... --

I do. Automatic centre punch is prefect for doing it.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 25/07/2023 10:49, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 10:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
>>>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>>>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>>>> them for an hour.
>>>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>>>> almost no effort.
>>>
>>> Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
>>> ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t
>>> burn your
>>> hands…
>>>
>>
>> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
>> rubber seal.
>> I could have made a hole in the lid...
>
> The hot water expands the stuff inside, lessening the suction.

Which is what time in the aga did.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

On 25/07/2023 11:01, RJH wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2023 at 08:59:36 BST, Davey wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:02:24 +0100
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>>> come off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to
>>> visit for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga,
>>> and left them for an hour.
>>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>>> almost no effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Devices for gripping over-tight jar lids are available, every home
>> should have one.
>
> Pair of marigolds does it for me and my arthritic thumbs.
>
My problem is that this particular brand is super tight and nerve damage
means my left arm and hand are operating about 50%.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

On 25/07/2023 11:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 10:49, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 25/07/2023 10:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>>>>> come
>>>>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>>>>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>>>>> them for an hour.
>>>>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>>>>> almost no effort.
>>>> Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion will
>>>> ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t
>>>> burn your
>>>> hands…
>>> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
>>> rubber seal.
>>> I could have made a hole in the lid...
>>
>> The hot water expands the stuff inside, lessening the suction.
>
> Which is what time in the aga did.
>
Yes, but the hot water trick is faster, and you are less likely to burn
your hands.

On 25/07/2023 11:38, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 11:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 25/07/2023 10:49, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 25/07/2023 10:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 25/07/2023 09:07, Spike wrote:
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>>>>>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>>>>>> them for an hour.
>>>>>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>>>>>> almost no effort.
>>>>> Run the lid of the jar under hot-ish water, differential expansion
>>>>> will
>>>>> ease the lid’s removal, and it only takes a minute. And you don’t
>>>>> burn your
>>>>> hands…
>>>> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
>>>> rubber seal.
>>>> I could have made a hole in the lid...
>>>
>>> The hot water expands the stuff inside, lessening the suction.
>>
>> Which is what time in the aga did.
>>
> Yes, but the hot water trick is faster, and you are less likely to burn
> your hands.

I doubt its faster.
I left it in a long time because it was VERY tight

--
"Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

― Confucius

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
> rubber seal.
> I could have made a hole in the lid...

Just use a blunt table knife/screwdriver to lever the edge of the lid
slightly: lets air in to break the suction. No need for angle grinders or
complicated other solutions.

Theo

On 25/07/2023 11:48, Theo wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
>> rubber seal.
>> I could have made a hole in the lid...
>
> Just use a blunt table knife/screwdriver to lever the edge of the lid
> slightly: lets air in to break the suction. No need for angle grinders or
> complicated other solutions.
>

+1 (if all the opening aids fail)

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

In article <H9j*AO+lz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
> > rubber seal.
> > I could have made a hole in the lid...

> Just use a blunt table knife/screwdriver to lever the edge of the lid
> slightly: lets air in to break the suction. No need for angle grinders or
> complicated other solutions.

but, when the glass doesn't give anything to press the blade against?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 25/07/2023 12:15, charles wrote:
> In article <H9j*AO+lz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> It wasn't the tightness of the lid, it was the suction against the
>>> rubber seal.
>>> I could have made a hole in the lid...
>
>> Just use a blunt table knife/screwdriver to lever the edge of the lid
>> slightly: lets air in to break the suction. No need for angle grinders or
>> complicated other solutions.
>
> but, when the glass doesn't give anything to press the blade against?
>

twist
--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 10:11:42 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 25/07/2023 08:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> Faced yet again with a jar of pickled gherkins whose lid would not come
>> off, and the friend who opened them last time for me not due to visit
>> for weeks, I bunged the lot into the bottom oven of the Aga, and left
>> them for an hour.
>> Had to use cloths to stop burning myself by the lid popped off with
>> almost no effort.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Jarkey
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK4m2966b_A

For jars or bottles with metal screw-top lids, I use one of these
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Under-Cabinet-Jar-Opener-Multi-Sized/dp/B0857FXK7S

--
Chris