On 2023-07-25, Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
> My niece went to Italy and she was pissed off, because every time she
> ordered a latte, she got just a glass of cold milk.
>
> Why do they have to take a word from English and change its meaning?
>
> SF

Possibly because it is the italian word for Milk?

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On 25/07/2023 10:19, maus wrote:
> On 2023-07-25, Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
>> My niece went to Italy and she was pissed off, because every time she
>> ordered a latte, she got just a glass of cold milk.
>>
>> Why do they have to take a word from English and change its meaning?
>>
>> SF
>
> Possibly because it is the italian word for Milk?
>
>
Cf the French Café au lait...Lait/latte is from the Romance languages.
Milk/milch/melk/mjölk/mælk are Germanic.
Which shows we must have had cows (also Germanic) before 1066. And the
Normans didn't drink milk or eat cheese too much.
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On 25/07/2023 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 10:19, maus wrote:
>> On 2023-07-25, Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
>>> My niece went to Italy and she was pissed off, because every time she
>>> ordered a latte, she got just a glass of cold milk.
>>>
>>> Why do they have to take a word from English and change its meaning?

>> Possibly because it is the italian word for Milk?
>>
>>
> Cf the French Café au lait...Lait/latte is from the Romance languages.
> Milk/milch/melk/mjölk/mælk are Germanic.

Why do the French call lemons citron which could be any citrus fruit?

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Am 25/07/2023 um 12:28 schrieb Max Demian:
> On 25/07/2023 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 25/07/2023 10:19, maus wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-25, Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
>>>> My niece went to Italy and she was pissed off, because every time she
>>>> ordered a latte, she got just a glass of cold milk.
>>>>
>>>> Why do they have to take a word from English and change its meaning?
>
>>> Possibly because it is the italian word for Milk?
>>>
>>>
>> Cf the French Café au lait...Lait/latte is from the Romance languages.
>> Milk/milch/melk/mjölk/mælk are Germanic.
>
> Why do the French call lemons citron which could be any citrus fruit?
>

It can also be a car make. Citroen.

The Dutchies also call it "citroen" where the "oe" is pronounced "oo" as
in "pool".

Us Italos call it "limone" so I guess the Frenchies are wrong, because.

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Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Am 25/07/2023 um 12:28 schrieb Max Demian:
> > On 25/07/2023 10:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> >> On 25/07/2023 10:19, maus wrote:
> >>> On 2023-07-25, Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> My niece went to Italy and she was pissed off, because every time she
> >>>> ordered a latte, she got just a glass of cold milk.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do they have to take a word from English and change its meaning?
> >
> >>> Possibly because it is the italian word for Milk?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Cf the French Café au lait...Lait/latte is from the Romance languages.
> >> Milk/milch/melk/mjölk/mælk are Germanic.
> >
> > Why do the French call lemons citron which could be any citrus fruit?
> >
>
> It can also be a car make. Citroen.
>
If you look the spelling is Citroën, there's two dots over the e to
indicate that it is sounded separately from the o. The French do
pronounce it that way and hardly understand if you use the usual
English pronunciation.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:25:15 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> It can also be a car make. Citroen.
>>
>If you look the spelling is Citroën, there's two dots over the e to
>indicate that it is sounded separately from the o. The French do
>pronounce it that way and hardly understand if you use the usual
>English pronunciation.

Didn't Toyota change the name of the MR2 for the French market because
of what is spells in French?

Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:25:15 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> [snip]
> >>
> >> It can also be a car make. Citroen.
> >>
> >If you look the spelling is Citroën, there's two dots over the e to
> >indicate that it is sounded separately from the o. The French do
> >pronounce it that way and hardly understand if you use the usual
> >English pronunciation.
>
> Didn't Toyota change the name of the MR2 for the French market because
> of what is spells in French?

That's certainly the story, I don't know if they changed the name, I
was just told that the MR2 didn't sell well in France as a consequence
of its name.

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In article <7e65pj-ofhf1.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu>,
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:25:15 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> > [snip]
> > >>
> > >> It can also be a car make. Citroen.
> > >>
> > >If you look the spelling is Citroën, there's two dots over the e to
> > >indicate that it is sounded separately from the o. The French do
> > >pronounce it that way and hardly understand if you use the usual
> > >English pronunciation.
> >
> > Didn't Toyota change the name of the MR2 for the French market because
> > of what is spells in French?

> That's certainly the story, I don't know if they changed the name, I
> was just told that the MR2 didn't sell well in France as a consequence
> of its name.

There was a VW - Polo, I think - which had to be sold in the US under
another name because the name meant something impolite in Spanish.

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