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* Driving licencePeter
`* Driving licencemaus
 `* Driving licencePeter
  `* Driving licenceRichard Robinson
   `* Driving licencemaus
    +- Driving licenceTim+
    +* Driving licenceSam Plusnet
    |`* Driving licenceAhem A Rivet's Shot
    | +- Driving licencemaus
    | +* Driving licenceTone
    | |`* Driving licenceRustyHinge
    | | +* Driving licenceTone
    | | |`- Driving licenceRustyHinge
    | | +* Driving licenceAhem A Rivet's Shot
    | | |`* Driving licenceTone
    | | | +- Driving licencemaus
    | | | `- Driving licenceSam Plusnet
    | | `- Driving licenceNick Odell
    | +* Driving licenceAndrew Marshall
    | |`* Driving licenceTease'n'Seize
    | | +* Driving licenceAndrew Marshall
    | | |+- Driving licenceTease'n'Seize
    | | |`* Driving licenceAdrian
    | | | +* Driving licenceAndrew Marshall
    | | | |`* Driving licenceAhem A Rivet's Shot
    | | | | `* Driving licenceAdrian
    | | | |  `- Driving licencemaus
    | | | +- Driving licenceChrisND@privacy.net
    | | | `- Driving licencemaus
    | | `* Driving licenceSam Plusnet
    | |  +* Driving licenceJohn Williamson
    | |  |`* Driving licencemaus
    | |  | +- Driving licenceChrisND@privacy.net
    | |  | `- Driving licenceChris Elvidge
    | |  +- Driving licenceTone
    | |  `* Driving licenceTease'n'Seize
    | |   `* Driving licenceDon Stockbauer
    | |    `* Driving licenceBernard Peek
    | |     `* Driving licenceNick Odell
    | |      +* Driving licencemaus
    | |      |`* Driving licenceNick Odell
    | |      | `* Driving licencemaus
    | |      |  `* Driving licenceNick Odell
    | |      |   `* Driving licenceDon Stockbauer
    | |      |    `* Driving licenceSam Plusnet
    | |      |     `* Driving licenceNick Odell
    | |      |      `- Driving licenceSam Plusnet
    | |      `- Driving licenceRustyHinge
    | `* Driving licenceJohn Williamson
    |  `- Driving licenceAhem A Rivet's Shot
    `- Driving licenceMike Fleming

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 by: John Williamson - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:42 UTC

On 24/04/2022 22:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:

> I now have such a problem.
> We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
> I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a
> minimum serving larger than that?
> I was going to get a neighbour to buy the petrol on my behalf, but she's
> now switched to a diseasel car as well.
>
All the petrol pumps I have seen have a minimum purcase of 2 litres in
the UK. The only ones that aren't calibrated to dispense less than 5
litres are the high speed diseasel ones for lorries.

Back in the days when I worked the pumps for the clients in nineteen
seventy mumble, it was unusual to sell less than a gallon, and that was
the standard can size. The minimum on the pump might have been half a
gallon to allow for mopeds, but if it only took a pint, we'd happily
take their money.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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 by: maus - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:22 UTC

On 2022-04-24, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 24/04/2022 22:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
>> I now have such a problem.
>> We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>> I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a
>> minimum serving larger than that?
>> I was going to get a neighbour to buy the petrol on my behalf, but she's
>> now switched to a diseasel car as well.
>>
> All the petrol pumps I have seen have a minimum purcase of 2 litres in
> the UK. The only ones that aren't calibrated to dispense less than 5
> litres are the high speed diseasel ones for lorries.
>
> Back in the days when I worked the pumps for the clients in nineteen
> seventy mumble, it was unusual to sell less than a gallon, and that was
> the standard can size. The minimum on the pump might have been half a
> gallon to allow for mopeds, but if it only took a pint, we'd happily
> take their money.
>

I remember when the Honda 50 was popular, people claimed that you could
keep one going by pulling into petrol stations and shaking the hose into
the fuel tank.

--
greymausg@mail.com
He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness,

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 by: Tone - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:58 UTC

On 24/04/2022 22:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 24-Apr-22 9:28, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>
>> It might get confused if you need to fill a can for your petrol
>> lawnmower while driving your diseasel car, or if the flfgrz cached the
>> fuel type for too long and you transferred your cherished number plate
>> to a different fuel type car.
>
> I now have such a problem.
> We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
> I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a
> minimum serving larger than that?
> I was going to get a neighbour to buy the petrol on my behalf, but she's
> now switched to a diseasel car as well.
>

Great excuse to ohl a motorbike!

Tone

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 by: ChrisND@privacy.net - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 10:49 UTC

On 24/04/2022 23:22, maus wrote:
> On 2022-04-24, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 24/04/2022 22:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>
>>> I now have such a problem.
>>> We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>>> I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a
>>> minimum serving larger than that?
>>> I was going to get a neighbour to buy the petrol on my behalf, but she's
>>> now switched to a diseasel car as well.
>>>
>> All the petrol pumps I have seen have a minimum purcase of 2 litres in
>> the UK. The only ones that aren't calibrated to dispense less than 5
>> litres are the high speed diseasel ones for lorries.
>>
>> Back in the days when I worked the pumps for the clients in nineteen
>> seventy mumble, it was unusual to sell less than a gallon, and that was
>> the standard can size. The minimum on the pump might have been half a
>> gallon to allow for mopeds, but if it only took a pint, we'd happily
>> take their money.
>>
>
> I remember when the Honda 50 was popular, people claimed that you could
> keep one going by pulling into petrol stations and shaking the hose into
> the fuel tank.
>
My first ever job was at a petrol station.
I used to have a 'special can for catching drips' from the hoses...

Chris

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 by: Chris Elvidge - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 10:56 UTC

On 24/04/2022 23:22, maus wrote:
> On 2022-04-24, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 24/04/2022 22:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>
>>> I now have such a problem.
>>> We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>>> I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a
>>> minimum serving larger than that?
>>> I was going to get a neighbour to buy the petrol on my behalf, but she's
>>> now switched to a diseasel car as well.
>>>
>> All the petrol pumps I have seen have a minimum purcase of 2 litres in
>> the UK. The only ones that aren't calibrated to dispense less than 5
>> litres are the high speed diseasel ones for lorries.
>>
>> Back in the days when I worked the pumps for the clients in nineteen
>> seventy mumble, it was unusual to sell less than a gallon, and that was
>> the standard can size. The minimum on the pump might have been half a
>> gallon to allow for mopeds, but if it only took a pint, we'd happily
>> take their money.
>>
>
> I remember when the Honda 50 was popular, people claimed that you could
> keep one going by pulling into petrol stations and shaking the hose into
> the fuel tank.
>

I have a 50cc Moto in Spain. €5 (pre global price hike) kept me going a
month. Daily pub/supermarket trips.

--
Chris Elvidge
England

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 by: Tease'n'Se - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:44 UTC

Sam Plusnet wrote:

> We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
> I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a minimum
> serving larger than that?

A mere 2 litres, AFAIR

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:48 UTC

On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-5, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
> > We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
> > I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a minimum
> > serving larger than that?
> A mere 2 litres, AFAIR

Nothing like that here in Leftpondia
you could buy one penny of petrol whatever that is if you wish

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 by: Adrian - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:01 UTC

In message <t43r8b$t7q$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew Marshall
<news@y-ddraenog-goch.org.uk> writes
>On 24/04/2022 09:28, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>
>>> A friend of our family filled up his VW Golf diesel, then drove
>>>about 35 miles home, visiting us later that evening. He commented
>>>that he'd filled up on the way home from jbex, and that it was
>>>running rather roughly. I suggested that he looked at his receipt,
>>>and it was for petrol.
>> Given that many filling stations use number plate recognition to
>>authorise the pumps, you'd think it could look-up the reg from DVLA to
>>see if the car's fuel type matches the fuel filler selected and molish
>>some sort of AROOGAH! warning
>> It might get confused if you need to fill a can for your petrol
>>lawnmower while driving your diseasel car, or if the flfgrz cached the
>>fuel type for too long and you transferred your cherished number plate
>>to a different fuel type car.
>
>Hmmm - would certainly help, but would probably fall foul of privacy
>laws, apart from pbfgvat the filling station per lookup...
>

There is a bit of the DVLA wibble site where you can put in a reg
number, and it will come back with some basic details (molisher, model,
colour, engine type etc.) about the vehicle with that number. Nothing
about the ownership, so I don't think privacy is an issue as it already
seems to be in the public domain.

Adrian
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 by: Andrew Marshall - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:08 UTC

On 25/04/2022 21:01, Adrian wrote:

> There is a bit of the DVLA wibble site where you can put in a reg
> number, and it will come back with some basic details (molisher, model,
> colour, engine type etc.) about the vehicle with that number.  Nothing
> about the ownership, so I don't think privacy is an issue as it already
> seems to be in the public domain.

I wonder what the point of that is - I suppose it'd show up a false
registration plate on a car that someone sees, but I'd goove that's
about all. Any more details would be the ecilop's ohfvarff, I'd have said.

--
Regards,
Andrew.

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:47 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:08:30 +0100
Andrew Marshall <news@y-ddraenog-goch.org.uk> wrote:

> On 25/04/2022 21:01, Adrian wrote:
>
> > There is a bit of the DVLA wibble site where you can put in a reg
> > number, and it will come back with some basic details (molisher, model,
> > colour, engine type etc.) about the vehicle with that number.  Nothing
> > about the ownership, so I don't think privacy is an issue as it already
> > seems to be in the public domain.
>
> I wonder what the point of that is - I suppose it'd show up a false
> registration plate on a car that someone sees, but I'd goove that's
> about all. Any more details would be the ecilop's ohfvarff, I'd have said.

If it includes the VIN it would be useful when ohling a pre-loved
vehicule and as a key into the manufacturers database of what went into it
when it was molished so you can get the right spare parts.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: ChrisND@privacy.net - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 11:19 UTC

On 25/04/2022 21:01, Adrian wrote:
> In message <t43r8b$t7q$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew Marshall
> <news@y-ddraenog-goch.org.uk> writes
>> On 24/04/2022 09:28, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend of our family filled up his VW Golf diesel, then drove
>>>> about  35 miles home, visiting us later that evening. He commented
>>>> that he'd filled up on the way home from jbex, and that it was
>>>> running rather roughly. I suggested that he looked at his receipt,
>>>> and it was for petrol.
>>>  Given that many filling stations use number plate recognition to
>>> authorise the pumps, you'd think it could look-up the reg from DVLA
>>> to see if the car's fuel type matches the fuel filler selected and
>>> molish some sort of AROOGAH! warning
>>>  It might get confused if you need to fill a can for your petrol
>>> lawnmower while driving your diseasel car, or if the flfgrz cached
>>> the fuel type for too long and you transferred your cherished number
>>> plate to a different fuel type car.
>>
>> Hmmm - would certainly help, but would probably fall foul of privacy
>> laws, apart from pbfgvat the filling station per lookup...
>>
>
> There is a bit of the DVLA wibble site where you can put in a reg
> number, and it will come back with some basic details (molisher, model,
> colour, engine type etc.) about the vehicle with that number.  Nothing
> about the ownership, so I don't think privacy is an issue as it already
> seems to be in the public domain.
>

https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

Chris

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 by: Bernard Peek - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:03 UTC

On 2022-04-25, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-5, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>
>> > We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>> > I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a minimum
>> > serving larger than that?
>> A mere 2 litres, AFAIR
>
> Nothing like that here in Leftpondia
> you could buy one penny of petrol whatever that is if you wish

There will be a minimum vend, depending on the hardware.

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com

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 by: Nick Odell - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:31 UTC

On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:

>On 2022-04-25, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-5, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>
>>> > We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>>> > I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a minimum
>>> > serving larger than that?
>>> A mere 2 litres, AFAIR
>>
>> Nothing like that here in Leftpondia
>> you could buy one penny of petrol whatever that is if you wish
>
>There will be a minimum vend, depending on the hardware.

No minimum vend, as far as I could tell, on petrol sales in Uganda
while I was there. As an anti-theft device, vehicle owners would only
put in just enough fuel to get them to their destination. No such
parsimony while I was in Venezuela and petrol was selling at 17 US
cents per US gallon.

Nick

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 by: maus - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:39 UTC

On 2022-04-25, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> In message <t43r8b$t7q$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew Marshall
><news@y-ddraenog-goch.org.uk> writes
>>On 24/04/2022 09:28, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>> Andrew Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>to a different fuel type car.
>>
>>Hmmm - would certainly help, but would probably fall foul of privacy
>>laws, apart from pbfgvat the filling station per lookup...
>>
>
> There is a bit of the DVLA wibble site where you can put in a reg
> number, and it will come back with some basic details (molisher, model,
> colour, engine type etc.) about the vehicle with that number. Nothing
> about the ownership, so I don't think privacy is an issue as it already
> seems to be in the public domain.
>
> Adrian

I used to be able to get owners details, Stalker heaven, and worse if
you consider N. Ireland. It was fun traceing ownerships on "Midsummer
Murders" Is that still on on English TV?.

Definitely giving owners details was a bad idea.

--
greymausg@mail.com
He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness,

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 by: maus - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:42 UTC

On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2022-04-25, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-5, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>>>> > I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a minimum
>>>> > serving larger than that?
>>>> A mere 2 litres, AFAIR
>>>
>>> Nothing like that here in Leftpondia
>>> you could buy one penny of petrol whatever that is if you wish
>>
>>There will be a minimum vend, depending on the hardware.
>
> No minimum vend, as far as I could tell, on petrol sales in Uganda
> while I was there. As an anti-theft device, vehicle owners would only
> put in just enough fuel to get them to their destination. No such
> parsimony while I was in Venezuela and petrol was selling at 17 US
> cents per US gallon.
>
> Nick

With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.

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 by: Adrian - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:49 UTC

In message <20220426094726.5bc95f1f91112d68559ee215@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes
>On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:08:30 +0100
>Andrew Marshall <news@y-ddraenog-goch.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 25/04/2022 21:01, Adrian wrote:
>>
>> > There is a bit of the DVLA wibble site where you can put in a reg
>> > number, and it will come back with some basic details (molisher, model,
>> > colour, engine type etc.) about the vehicle with that number.  Nothing
>> > about the ownership, so I don't think privacy is an issue as it already
>> > seems to be in the public domain.
>>
>> I wonder what the point of that is - I suppose it'd show up a false
>> registration plate on a car that someone sees, but I'd goove that's
>> about all. Any more details would be the ecilop's ohfvarff, I'd have said.
>
> If it includes the VIN it would be useful when ohling a pre-loved
>vehicule and as a key into the manufacturers database of what went into it
>when it was molished so you can get the right spare parts.
>

Looks as though the Vin is not included. What you get is :

Vehicle make
Date of first registration
Year of manufacture
Cylinder capacity
CO2 emissions
Fuel type
Euro status
Real Driving Emissions (RDE)
Export marker
Vehicle status
Vehicle colour
Vehicle type approval
Wheelplan
Revenue weight
Date of last V5C (logbook) issued

I use it to see if the Lard Roller I used to own is still in existence
(it seems that it is, but has changed colour).

Adrian
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 by: maus - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:31 UTC

On 2022-04-26, Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
> In message <20220426094726.5bc95f1f91112d68559ee215@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes
>>On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:08:30 +0100
>>Andrew Marshall <news@y-ddraenog-goch.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/04/2022 21:01, Adrian wrote:
>
> Looks as though the Vin is not included. What you get is :
>
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> Year of manufacture
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> Euro status
> Real Driving Emissions (RDE)
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> Vehicle status
> Vehicle colour
> Vehicle type approval
> Wheelplan
> Revenue weight
> Date of last V5C (logbook) issued
>
> I use it to see if the Lard Roller I used to own is still in existence
> (it seems that it is, but has changed colour).
>
> Adrian

I had a Defender, the Austrian engined one, but swapped it for a
japanese machine because the seat in the landrover was impossible to
shift to a comfortable position. The swap was to a LandRover enthusiast
who put in a new textured paint that was hard to wash, a air intake over
the bonnett and even worse crimes, then as he was doing something to
the snorkel, a young person came into his yard and started up the
defender, and drove it through a puddle, which allowed a gush of water
into the engine. There it still stands.

It was like meeting a former girlfriend who now walks the streets.

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He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness,

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On 26/04/2022 14:31, Nick Odell wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-25, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> There will be a minimum vend, depending on the hardware.
>
> No minimum vend, as far as I could tell, on petrol sales in Uganda
> while I was there. As an anti-theft device, vehicle owners would only
> put in just enough fuel to get them to their destination. No such
> parsimony while I was in Venezuela and petrol was selling at 17 US
> cents per US gallon.

When I were a nipper I used to ohl a pint of petrol sometimes for a
rather good petrol stove (Finnish Army issue), but then, a galleon of
the stuff was (IIRC) 3s. 9d.

--
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 by: Nick Odell - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 22:19 UTC

On 26 Apr 2022 16:42:57 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

>On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2022-04-25, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 11:44:16 AM UTC-5, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>>>>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > We have a diseasel car, but need petrol for a couple of garden tools.
>>>>> > I have a green 5 litre plastic can, but don't petrol pumps have a minimum
>>>>> > serving larger than that?
>>>>> A mere 2 litres, AFAIR
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like that here in Leftpondia
>>>> you could buy one penny of petrol whatever that is if you wish
>>>
>>>There will be a minimum vend, depending on the hardware.
>>
>> No minimum vend, as far as I could tell, on petrol sales in Uganda
>> while I was there. As an anti-theft device, vehicle owners would only
>> put in just enough fuel to get them to their destination. No such
>> parsimony while I was in Venezuela and petrol was selling at 17 US
>> cents per US gallon.
>>
>> Nick
>
> With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
> expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.

This was in the days of Chávez: everything was political. Caracas was
a madhouse but the further out you went, the more sanity prevailed. I
suspect (but don't really know since I haven't checked) the price of
fuel is sky high these days since although they supposedly have
amongst the highest oil reserves in the world, when they nationalised
everything, all the people who knew how anything worked left the
country and all the oil is probably still in the ground. Win-win for
climate change, eh?

Nick

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 by: maus - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 22:46 UTC

On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2022 16:42:57 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
>>On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
>> expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.
>
> This was in the days of Chávez: everything was political. Caracas was
> a madhouse but the further out you went, the more sanity prevailed. I
> suspect (but don't really know since I haven't checked) the price of
> fuel is sky high these days since although they supposedly have
> amongst the highest oil reserves in the world, when they nationalised
> everything, all the people who knew how anything worked left the
> country and all the oil is probably still in the ground. Win-win for
> climate change, eh?
>
> Nick

Odd story. In an inheritance battle here, a man who had disappeared into
somewhere Venezuela-Guyana area years ago reappeared, gave evidence, and
returned there and has not been heard of since. Rumours of harems of
native girls, and hoards of mixed race children. How did he know that
there was to a court-case in Ireland?

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 by: Nick Odell - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 23:34 UTC

On 26 Apr 2022 22:46:29 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

>On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Apr 2022 16:42:57 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
>>> expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.
>>
>> This was in the days of Chávez: everything was political. Caracas was
>> a madhouse but the further out you went, the more sanity prevailed. I
>> suspect (but don't really know since I haven't checked) the price of
>> fuel is sky high these days since although they supposedly have
>> amongst the highest oil reserves in the world, when they nationalised
>> everything, all the people who knew how anything worked left the
>> country and all the oil is probably still in the ground. Win-win for
>> climate change, eh?
>>
>> Nick
>
>Odd story. In an inheritance battle here, a man who had disappeared into
>somewhere Venezuela-Guyana area years ago reappeared, gave evidence, and
>returned there and has not been heard of since. Rumours of harems of
>native girls, and hoards of mixed race children. How did he know that
>there was to a court-case in Ireland?

Blind Bambi about the court case. That corner of South America is
very, very remote. I've never made it to the Guyanas though I've spent
time everywhere else in SA.

Nick

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 01:19 UTC

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-5, Nick Odell wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2022 22:46:29 GMT, maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
> >On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> >> On 26 Apr 2022 16:42:57 GMT, maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <b...@shrdlu.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
> >>> expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.
> >>
> >> This was in the days of Chávez: everything was political. Caracas was
> >> a madhouse but the further out you went, the more sanity prevailed. I
> >> suspect (but don't really know since I haven't checked) the price of
> >> fuel is sky high these days since although they supposedly have
> >> amongst the highest oil reserves in the world, when they nationalised
> >> everything, all the people who knew how anything worked left the
> >> country and all the oil is probably still in the ground. Win-win for
> >> climate change, eh?
> >>
> >> Nick
> >
> >Odd story. In an inheritance battle here, a man who had disappeared into
> >somewhere Venezuela-Guyana area years ago reappeared, gave evidence, and
> >returned there and has not been heard of since. Rumours of harems of
> >native girls, and hoards of mixed race children. How did he know that
> >there was to a court-case in Ireland?
> Blind Bambi about the court case. That corner of South America is
> very, very remote. I've never made it to the Guyanas though I've spent
> time everywhere else in SA.
>
> Nick

Dear Mr. Peek that must be what the petrol pump hardware does in Britain in America there is no minimum purchase

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:17 UTC

On 27-Apr-22 2:19, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-5, Nick Odell wrote:
>> On 26 Apr 2022 22:46:29 GMT, maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 26 Apr 2022 16:42:57 GMT, maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <b...@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
>>>>> expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.
>>>>
>>>> This was in the days of Chávez: everything was political. Caracas was
>>>> a madhouse but the further out you went, the more sanity prevailed. I
>>>> suspect (but don't really know since I haven't checked) the price of
>>>> fuel is sky high these days since although they supposedly have
>>>> amongst the highest oil reserves in the world, when they nationalised
>>>> everything, all the people who knew how anything worked left the
>>>> country and all the oil is probably still in the ground. Win-win for
>>>> climate change, eh?
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>
>>> Odd story. In an inheritance battle here, a man who had disappeared into
>>> somewhere Venezuela-Guyana area years ago reappeared, gave evidence, and
>>> returned there and has not been heard of since. Rumours of harems of
>>> native girls, and hoards of mixed race children. How did he know that
>>> there was to a court-case in Ireland?
>> Blind Bambi about the court case. That corner of South America is
>> very, very remote. I've never made it to the Guyanas though I've spent
>> time everywhere else in SA.
>>
>> Nick
>
> Dear Mr. Peek that must be what the petrol pump hardware does in Britain in America there is no minimum purchase

It may be something to do with Weights and Measures legislation.

Pumps have to be accurate to within some defined limits, and both
starting & stopping the pump introduces some degree of error.
If you use it to dispense (silly example) 25mL of fuel, those errors
could be greater than the actual amount delivered.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Nick Odell - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:37 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:17:20 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 27-Apr-22 2:19, Don Stockbauer wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-5, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> On 26 Apr 2022 22:46:29 GMT, maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 26 Apr 2022 16:42:57 GMT, maus <ma...@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-26, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26 Apr 2022 13:03:10 GMT, Bernard Peek <b...@shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the proposed ending of US sanctions on little Venice, I would
>>>>>> expect fuel would be a teeny bit more expensive there now.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was in the days of Chávez: everything was political. Caracas was
>>>>> a madhouse but the further out you went, the more sanity prevailed. I
>>>>> suspect (but don't really know since I haven't checked) the price of
>>>>> fuel is sky high these days since although they supposedly have
>>>>> amongst the highest oil reserves in the world, when they nationalised
>>>>> everything, all the people who knew how anything worked left the
>>>>> country and all the oil is probably still in the ground. Win-win for
>>>>> climate change, eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> Odd story. In an inheritance battle here, a man who had disappeared into
>>>> somewhere Venezuela-Guyana area years ago reappeared, gave evidence, and
>>>> returned there and has not been heard of since. Rumours of harems of
>>>> native girls, and hoards of mixed race children. How did he know that
>>>> there was to a court-case in Ireland?
>>> Blind Bambi about the court case. That corner of South America is
>>> very, very remote. I've never made it to the Guyanas though I've spent
>>> time everywhere else in SA.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>> Dear Mr. Peek that must be what the petrol pump hardware does in Britain in America there is no minimum purchase
>
>It may be something to do with Weights and Measures legislation.
>
>Pumps have to be accurate to within some defined limits, and both
>starting & stopping the pump introduces some degree of error.
>If you use it to dispense (silly example) 25mL of fuel, those errors
>could be greater than the actual amount delivered.

Uganda has never been a shining example of honest trading practice and
in those days in Venezuela, petrol was like we were promised nuclear
power would be - too cheap to meter. Neither country had a terrific
incentive to measure fuel with more precision.

Nick

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 by: Mike Fleming - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 23:28 UTC

On 23/04/2022 14:10, maus wrote:
>
> I thought that most fuel pumps now prevented you from putting dsl into a
> ptrl car?.. Or was your mistake the opposite?

It doesn't prevent you putting diseasel into a petrol motorcycle. Which
I realised just as I'd finished filling it up (so I didn't start it up
which wouldn't have helped things). Cost me one fill of diseasel, one
fill of petrol, and a man to extract the former from the bike before
putting in the latter.

> The mistake, which used to be common, is expensive, the complete fuel
> supply has to be changed, filters, all, which means that the old fuel
> has to be brought somewhere to be disposed of, which is why it is
> usually done in a garage. As I wrote, nasty and expensive.

ISTR that the big promble is putting petrol into a diseasel car. I've
put a couple of litres in on one occasion, but putting in a much larger
amount of the proper stuff seemed to do the trick.

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