I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the bike's
display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is fine,
anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose stuff
is just getting harder.

I've read about stick on lenses that people have fitted to safety glasses
and diving helmets etc. Some to bike helmets.

Does anyone have experience of doing this? Worthwhile?

On 03/06/2022 11:35, Stephen Packer wrote:
> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the bike's
> display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is fine,
> anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose stuff
> is just getting harder.
>
> I've read about stick on lenses that people have fitted to safety glasses
> and diving helmets etc. Some to bike helmets.
>
> Does anyone have experience of doing this? Worthwhile?

Couldn't you attach the GPS to a selfie stick?

--
Gyp

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:44:45 UTC+1, Gyp wrote:
> On 03/06/2022 11:35, Stephen Packer wrote:
> > I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the bike's
> > display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is fine,
> > anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose stuff
> > is just getting harder.
> >
> > I've read about stick on lenses that people have fitted to safety glasses
> > and diving helmets etc. Some to bike helmets.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience of doing this? Worthwhile?
> Couldn't you attach the GPS to a selfie stick?

Good idea but, sadly, I'd only drop it.

Stephen Packer wrote:

> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
> stuff is just getting harder.

I have this problem.

I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.

--
Simon

On 3 Jun 2022 11:02:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Stephen Packer wrote:
>
>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>> stuff is just getting harder.
>
>I have this problem.
>
>I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.

Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:35:23 UTC+1, stephen...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the bike's
> display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is fine,
> anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose stuff
> is just getting harder.
>
> I've read about stick on lenses that people have fitted to safety glasses
> and diving helmets etc. Some to bike helmets.
>
> Does anyone have experience of doing this? Worthwhile?

I've just had a quote for bi-focal wrap around straight leg safety glasses
# for this reason
# I like to ride with helmet open

Seems like a straightforward solution.

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 12:02:32 UTC+1, sweller wrote:
> Stephen Packer wrote:
>
> > I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
> > bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
> > fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
> > stuff is just getting harder.
> I have this problem.
>
> I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.

I think that this is worth considering.

https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?92905-quot-Bi-Focal-quot-Visor

I'd rather not wear glasses if I can avoid it.

On 03/06/2022 12:02, sweller wrote:
> Stephen Packer wrote:
>
>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>> stuff is just getting harder.
>
> I have this problem.
>
> I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.

Half-moon reading glasses of the kind teachers and librarians
stereotypically peer over?

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On 03/06/2022 18:35 Stephen Packer penned these words:
> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the bike's
> display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is fine,
> anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose stuff
> is just getting harder.
>
> I've read about stick on lenses that people have fitted to safety glasses
> and diving helmets etc. Some to bike helmets.
>
> Does anyone have experience of doing this? Worthwhile?

Contact in one eye? I tried this for a while and it works but i am too lazy for
contacts and got varifocal glasses.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 03/06/2022 12:30, Ace wrote:
> On 3 Jun 2022 11:02:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Stephen Packer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>>
>> I have this problem.
>>
>> I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.
>
> Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
> one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>
>

I'm in luck then, that is how my eyes have always worked. :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 03/06/2022 13:30, Ace wrote:
>On 3 Jun 2022 11:02:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Stephen Packer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>>
>>I have this problem.
>>
>>I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.
>
>Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
>one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>

Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular trifocals
for example.

--
Geoff

geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote in news:t7ftnh$74s$1@dont-email.me:

> On 03/06/2022 13:30, Ace wrote:
>>On 3 Jun 2022 11:02:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Stephen Packer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>>>
>>>I have this problem.
>>>
>>>I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.
>>
>>Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
>>one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>>
>
> Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular trifocals
> for example.
>

have you been on the waiting list long?

geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>>>
>>>I have this problem.
>>>
>>>I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.
>>
>>Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
>>one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>
> Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular trifocals
> for example.

Why mess around with expensive and possibly bad surgery.
The simple solution is a pair of half reading glasses, around a tenner
from boots or plenty of other sellers.
Look through them to read, over them for distance.
KISS.

--
http://www.netunix.com/

On 04/06/2022 17:38, wessie wrote:
>geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote in news:t7ftnh$74s$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 03/06/2022 13:30, Ace wrote:
>>>On 3 Jun 2022 11:02:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Stephen Packer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>>>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>>>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>>>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>>>>
>>>>I have this problem.
>>>>
>>>>I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.
>>>
>>>Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
>>>one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>>>
>>
>> Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular trifocals
>> for example.
>>
>
>have you been on the waiting list long?

I blame the spill chucker.

--
Geoff

crn@nospam.com wrote:

> geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
> > > >
> >>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of
> the >>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance
> vision is >>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was
> but the upclose >>>> stuff is just getting harder.
> > > >
> > > > I have this problem.
> > > >
> > > > I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit
> > > > plain.
> > >
> > > Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the
> > > other one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
> >
> > Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular
> > trifocals for example.
>
> Why mess around with expensive and possibly bad surgery.
> The simple solution is a pair of half reading glasses, around a
> tenner from boots or plenty of other sellers.
> Look through them to read, over them for distance.
> KISS.

I have specs for distance so I wear them all the time and can take them
off to read. It's the poor fuckers with reading glasses that have
lost/forgot to bring with/just sat or stood on/left somewhere their
reading specs I feel sorry for. With intraocular implants I doubt if
bad surgery is much of a problem, cost is another matter.

--
Geoff

On 04/06/2022 17:10, GeoffC wrote:
>
> I have specs for distance so I wear them all the time and can take them
> off to read. It's the poor fuckers with reading glasses that have
> lost/forgot to bring with/just sat or stood on/left somewhere their
> reading specs I feel sorry for. With intraocular implants I doubt if
> bad surgery is much of a problem, cost is another matter.

In an emergency, I'd use a magnifier app on my phone to read. Not ideal
to read "War and Peace" while sat on the toilet, but OK to read a few
words. I normally have at least one pair of glasses reasonably close to
hand though.

As for the problem of reading instruments, I'm not quite there yet but I
think I'll go for bifocals or varifocals when the time comes.

Mike Fleming wrote:

> On 04/06/2022 17:10, GeoffC wrote:
> >
> > I have specs for distance so I wear them all the time and can take
> > them off to read. It's the poor fuckers with reading glasses that
> > have lost/forgot to bring with/just sat or stood on/left somewhere
> > their reading specs I feel sorry for. With intraocular implants I
> > doubt if bad surgery is much of a problem, cost is another matter.
>
> In an emergency, I'd use a magnifier app on my phone to read. Not
> ideal to read "War and Peace" while sat on the toilet, but OK to read
> a few words.

I'd be interested to see that in practice because you would still have
to focus on the phone screen which brings you back to the original
problem.

> I normally have at least one pair of glasses reasonably
> close to hand though.

The Missus uses reading glasses and I estimate she needs about 6 pairs
to cover at work/in the car/upstairs/downstairs etc.

>
> As for the problem of reading instruments, I'm not quite there yet
> but I think I'll go for bifocals or varifocals when the time comes.

I have a pair of varifocals and I a) am a bit fed up with the 'nose in
the air' attitude required to read a PC screen and b) have to be really
careful going down stairs or stepping off a kerb, because the bottom
20% of my field of vision is blurry beyond about a foot.

--
Geoff

On 05/06/2022 06:02 GeoffC penned these words:
>> I normally have at least one pair of glasses reasonably
>> close to hand though.
> The Missus uses reading glasses and I estimate she needs about 6 pairs
> to cover at work/in the car/upstairs/downstairs etc.
>

I get by with 2x reading glasses only because I kept the old ones, so one live
with the PC the other in the bedroom but 1 would suffice. 90% of my use is
covered by my varifocals which also double as sun glasses out and about. I do
keep my old long distance glasses in the car in case I forget as it saves the
hike back to the unit.

>
>> As for the problem of reading instruments, I'm not quite there yet
>> but I think I'll go for bifocals or varifocals when the time comes.
> I have a pair of varifocals and I a) am a bit fed up with the 'nose in
> the air' attitude required to read a PC screen and b) have to be really
> careful going down stairs or stepping off a kerb, because the bottom
> 20% of my field of vision is blurry beyond about a foot.
>

Cant say I've found it an issue, reading for any length of time is a PITA but
1/2 an hours or so no problem.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 16:10:14 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:

>crn@nospam.com wrote:
>
>> geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of
>> the >>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance
>> vision is >>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was
>> but the upclose >>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have this problem.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit
>> > > > plain.
>> > >
>> > > Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the
>> > > other one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>> >
>> > Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular
>> > trifocals for example.
>>
>> Why mess around with expensive and possibly bad surgery.
>> The simple solution is a pair of half reading glasses, around a
>> tenner from boots or plenty of other sellers.
>> Look through them to read, over them for distance.
>> KISS.
>
>I have specs for distance so I wear them all the time and can take them
>off to read.

Sounds like the best solution. Pat opted for good distance vision when
having her cateracts sorted, and now finds having to remember reading
glasses a pain. She tends to wear one contact lens instead.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On 04/06/2022 16:38, wessie wrote:
> geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote in news:t7ftnh$74s$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 03/06/2022 13:30, Ace wrote:
>>> On 3 Jun 2022 11:02:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stephen Packer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>>>>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>>>>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>>>>> stuff is just getting harder.
>>>>
>>>> I have this problem.
>>>>
>>>> I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.
>>>
>>> Or laser surgery in one eye for the close-up stuff, leave the other
>>> one for distance vision. Can work well for many people.
>>>
>>
>> Eye surgery has least forward in the laat few years. Itraocular trifocals
>> for example.
>>
>
> have you been on the waiting list long?

guffaw!

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 03/06/2022 11:35, Stephen Packer wrote:
> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the bike's
> display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is fine,
> anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose stuff
> is just getting harder.
>
> I've read about stick on lenses that people have fitted to safety glasses
> and diving helmets etc. Some to bike helmets.

I'd be interested in something like the stick on lens things that you
can get to put in windows that look like a series of concentric
magnifying rings. Know what I mean or do I have to google it? :-)

I have learnt to measure speed by the angle of the needle (provided I
remember which bike I'm on!) but everything else is a PITA.
In unknown country, I just have to stop every few miles and peer closely
at a real map before continuing.

Chris

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

ChrisND @UKRM wrote:

> I'd be interested in something like the stick on lens things that you
> can get to put in windows that look like a series of concentric
> magnifying rings. Know what I mean or do I have to google it? :-)

I had one in the rear window of my T2 camper - helped with reversing,
not clear image but enough so you could see the post or car you'd just
reversed into.

--
Simon

On 04/06/2022 23:02, GeoffC wrote:
> Mike Fleming wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2022 17:10, GeoffC wrote:
>>>
>> In an emergency, I'd use a magnifier app on my phone to read. Not
>> ideal to read "War and Peace" while sat on the toilet, but OK to read
>> a few words.
>
> I'd be interested to see that in practice because you would still have
> to focus on the phone screen which brings you back to the original
> problem.

I can focus sufficiently well to read letters a centimetre or two tall.

>> I normally have at least one pair of glasses reasonably
>> close to hand though.
>
> The Missus uses reading glasses and I estimate she needs about 6 pairs
> to cover at work/in the car/upstairs/downstairs etc.

As my prescriptions haven't changed that much over the years and I've
bought the occasional new pair of glasses, I have quite a collection. A
pair at work (now in my home office), one pair in the bedroom, the
nomadic downstairs pair, the peripatetic pair in my fleece for travels
in the car, and the other peripatetic pair in my bike jacket for travels
on the bike.

>> As for the problem of reading instruments, I'm not quite there yet
>> but I think I'll go for bifocals or varifocals when the time comes.
>
> I have a pair of varifocals and I a) am a bit fed up with the 'nose in
> the air' attitude required to read a PC screen and b) have to be really
> careful going down stairs or stepping off a kerb, because the bottom
> 20% of my field of vision is blurry beyond about a foot.

I think I'd have to have a pair which were more office glasses than
reading glasses at the lower end - I only have one pair of reading
glasses, the bedroom ones, and they're not so good for reading a screen
which is about the same distance from my eyes as the instruments on the
bike and for which I have what I think are termed office glasses.

On 03/06/2022 12:02, sweller wrote:
> Stephen Packer wrote:
>
>> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the fine detail of the
>> bike's display and (more importantly) the GPS. Distance vision is
>> fine, anything over 1.5m is the same as it always was but the upclose
>> stuff is just getting harder.
>
> I have this problem.
>
> I think the only solution is varifocals with the distance bit plain.

I have varifocals now, but if I'm doing something where the glasses are
a nuisance, I use multifocal contact lenses. Witchcraft, but it's almost
like having 'normal' vision again.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On 05/06/2022 13:46, Pip Luscher wrote:
> "ChrisND @UKRM" <chrisnd@privacy.net> Wrote in message:
>> something like the stick on lens things that you can get to put
>> in windows that look like a series of concentric magnifying rings.
>
> Fresnel lens, I believe.
>
>
>
Ta, that's the feller!
I've got a van one somewhere, I must dig it out and play with it[1] in
the visor...

Chris
[1] ie. chop it up and make it totally useless for anything but, wgaf -
nvng!

--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk