Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!

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Michael Chare <mUNDERSCOREnews@charedotorg.uk> wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
> later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!

When you say 'web controlled', that could mean:

1. accessible via a web page on the local network
2. the above plus some port forwards and a dynamic DNS entry to make it
accessible over the internet
3. the widget phones home to its manufacturer and they give you a control
panel to login to control your widgets
4. the same as #3 but with a mobile app

Which one did you want?

If you're rebooting the router because it has problems, how do you propose
to access it if the router is broken enough that the network connection is not
working?

(you can probably get them with a mobile modem inside, but that gets
complicated with SIM cards and stuff)

Theo

On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
> later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>
>
If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?

https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/

On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 15:04:21 UTC+1, Theo wrote:
> Michael Chare <mUNDERS...@charedotorg.uk> wrote:
> > Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
> > off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
> > later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
> When you say 'web controlled', that could mean:
>
> 1. accessible via a web page on the local network
> 2. the above plus some port forwards and a dynamic DNS entry to make it
> accessible over the internet
> 3. the widget phones home to its manufacturer and they give you a control
> panel to login to control your widgets
> 4. the same as #3 but with a mobile app
>
> Which one did you want?
>
> If you're rebooting the router because it has problems, how do you propose
> to access it if the router is broken enough that the network connection is not
> working?
>
> (you can probably get them with a mobile modem inside, but that gets
> complicated with SIM cards and stuff)
>
> Theo
If you really do want to power cycle a router when it loses contact with the internet,
then a simple computer like a Raspberry Pi can be configured to ping a collection of
different external sites and operate a relay if all of them stop responding for a certain
length of time.
If you want to control it manually when it is working, then the same Pi could be used
in a variety of ways. It could provide a simple web site that you access remotely
(after setting up port forwards in the router to allow incoming access and either
having a fixed ip address or a means to discover what the current address is.)

John

On 28/07/2023 15:05, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
>> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
>> later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>>
>>
> If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
> domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?
>
> https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/

It has a potential problem if the router is turned off - it will not
automatically connect back to the router's wi-fi without manually
operating the switch on the side of the plug.

If initially programmed to turn off or on at certain times a day it will
continue to do so irrespective of a working wi-fi connection.

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On 28/07/2023 15:23, alan_m wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 15:05, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch
>>> something off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a
>>> few seconds later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router
>>> remotely!
>>>
>>>
>> If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
>> domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?
>>
>> https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/
>
>
> It has a potential problem if the router is turned off - it will not
> automatically connect back to the router's wi-fi without manually
> operating the switch on the side of the plug.
>
> If initially programmed to turn off or on at certain times a day it
> will continue to do so irrespective of a working wi-fi connection.
>
No, but you could log in, and set up an off-on event to happen almost
immediately, it would then switch back on according to that schedule
irrespective of there being an active internet connection.

However, the OPs idea seems flawed anyway, because if you need to
restart remotely the router because it's crashed, you won't be able to
access any sort of remote device in that instance anyway !?

On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 15:39:59 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 15:23, alan_m wrote:
> > On 28/07/2023 15:05, Mark Carver wrote:
> >> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
> >>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch
> >>> something off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a
> >>> few seconds later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router
> >>> remotely!
> >>>
> >>>
> >> If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
> >> domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?
> >>
> >> https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/
> >
> >
> > It has a potential problem if the router is turned off - it will not
> > automatically connect back to the router's wi-fi without manually
> > operating the switch on the side of the plug.
> >
> > If initially programmed to turn off or on at certain times a day it
> > will continue to do so irrespective of a working wi-fi connection.
> >
> No, but you could log in, and set up an off-on event to happen almost
> immediately, it would then switch back on according to that schedule
> irrespective of there being an active internet connection.
>
> However, the OPs idea seems flawed anyway, because if you need to
> restart remotely the router because it's crashed, you won't be able to
> access any sort of remote device in that instance anyway !?

.... which is why getting a device to detect the lack of internet is useful.
I do this at a few very remote locations.

John

On 28/07/2023 15:39, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 15:23, alan_m wrote:
>> On 28/07/2023 15:05, Mark Carver wrote:
>>> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
>>>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch
>>>> something off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a
>>>> few seconds later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router
>>>> remotely!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
>>> domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?
>>>
>>> https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/
>>
>>
>> It has a potential problem if the router is turned off - it will not
>> automatically connect back to the router's wi-fi without manually
>> operating the switch on the side of the plug.
>>
>> If initially programmed to turn off or on at certain times a day it
>> will continue to do so irrespective of a working wi-fi connection.
>>
> No, but you could log in, and set up an off-on event to happen almost
> immediately, it would then switch back on according to that schedule
> irrespective of there being an active internet connection.
>
> However, the OPs idea seems flawed anyway, because if you need to
> restart remotely the router because it's crashed, you won't be able to
> access any sort of remote device in that instance anyway !?

Indeed! It's like trying to lift yourself up by standing in a bucket and
pulling on the handle.

The only option would be to pre-program regular off/on events (say every
day at 03:00) so that the router gets re-booted regardless.
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Cheers,
Roger

On 28/07/2023 15:10, John Walliker wrote:

> If you really do want to power cycle a router when it loses contact with the internet,
> then a simple computer like a Raspberry Pi can be configured to ping a collection of
> different external sites and operate a relay if all of them stop responding for a certain
> length of time.
> If you want to control it manually when it is working, then the same Pi could be used
> in a variety of ways. It could provide a simple web site that you access remotely
> (after setting up port forwards in the router to allow incoming access and either
> having a fixed ip address or a means to discover what the current address is.)
>

Yeah, a heartbeat, watchdog type thing. Saved my bacon many times.

"The server wasn't working, you say! How strange, it appears to be
working now!" :-)

Raspberry Pi is good + Athom power plugs make good relays.

<https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002995502460.html>

On 28/07/2023 15:05, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
>> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
>> later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>>
>>
> If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
> domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?
>
> https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/

And if you are worried, then sticking it on its own VLAN solves that if
your router has the capability to do it.

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On 28/07/2023 16:50, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 15:39, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 28/07/2023 15:23, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 28/07/2023 15:05, Mark Carver wrote:
>>>> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
>>>>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch
>>>>> something off when asked and then switch it on again automatically
>>>>> a few seconds later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet
>>>>> router remotely!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If you're not worried about the Chinese possibly snooping on your
>>>> domestic activity etc, one of these for a Tenner ?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.tapo.com/uk/product/smart-plug/tapo-p100/
>>>
>>>
>>> It has a potential problem if the router is turned off - it will not
>>> automatically connect back to the router's wi-fi without manually
>>> operating the switch on the side of the plug.
>>>
>>> If initially programmed to turn off or on at certain times a day it
>>> will continue to do so irrespective of a working wi-fi connection.
>>>
>> No, but you could log in, and set up an off-on event to happen almost
>> immediately, it would then switch back on according to that schedule
>> irrespective of there being an active internet connection.
>>
>> However, the OPs idea seems flawed anyway, because if you need to
>> restart remotely the router because it's crashed, you won't be able to
>> access any sort of remote device in that instance anyway !?
>
> Indeed! It's like trying to lift yourself up by standing in a bucket and
> pulling on the handle.
>
> The only option would be to pre-program regular off/on events (say every
> day at 03:00) so that the router gets re-booted regardless.

Or you do it with out of band signalling - say using a mobile connection
- send it a restart SMS when you need it.

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On 28/07/2023 15:10, John Walliker wrote:
> On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 15:04:21 UTC+1, Theo wrote:
>> Michael Chare <mUNDERS...@charedotorg.uk> wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
>>> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
>>> later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>> When you say 'web controlled', that could mean:
>>
>> 1. accessible via a web page on the local network
>> 2. the above plus some port forwards and a dynamic DNS entry to make it
>> accessible over the internet
>> 3. the widget phones home to its manufacturer and they give you a control
>> panel to login to control your widgets
>> 4. the same as #3 but with a mobile app
>>
>> Which one did you want?
>>
>> If you're rebooting the router because it has problems, how do you propose
>> to access it if the router is broken enough that the network connection is not
>> working?
>>
>> (you can probably get them with a mobile modem inside, but that gets
>> complicated with SIM cards and stuff)
>>
>> Theo
> If you really do want to power cycle a router when it loses contact with the internet,
> then a simple computer like a Raspberry Pi can be configured to ping a collection of
> different external sites and operate a relay if all of them stop responding for a certain
> length of time.
> If you want to control it manually when it is working, then the same Pi could be used
> in a variety of ways. It could provide a simple web site that you access remotely
> (after setting up port forwards in the router to allow incoming access and either
> having a fixed ip address or a means to discover what the current address is.)
>
> John

The router is running OPNsense. It is partly working, but some how it
has got stuck. I can use VNC to a raspberry pi and then use the pi's
web browser to login to the router. When I select the reboot option the
router does not respond which it should do. Marks Tapo looks like it
might work. Thank you all

The Tapo

--
Michael Chare

On 28/07/2023 17:19, Michael Chare wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 15:10, John Walliker wrote:
>> On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 15:04:21 UTC+1, Theo wrote:
>>> Michael Chare <mUNDERS...@charedotorg.uk> wrote:
>>>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
>>>> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
>>>> later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>>> When you say 'web controlled', that could mean:
>>>
>>> 1. accessible via a web page on the local network
>>> 2. the above plus some port forwards and a dynamic DNS entry to make it
>>> accessible over the internet
>>> 3. the widget phones home to its manufacturer and they give you a
>>> control
>>> panel to login to control your widgets
>>> 4. the same as #3 but with a mobile app
>>>
>>> Which one did you want?
>>>
>>> If you're rebooting the router because it has problems, how do you
>>> propose
>>> to access it if the router is broken enough that the network
>>> connection is not
>>> working?
>>>
>>> (you can probably get them with a mobile modem inside, but that gets
>>> complicated with SIM cards and stuff)
>>>
>>> Theo
>> If you really do want to power cycle a router when it loses contact
>> with the internet,
>> then a simple computer like a Raspberry Pi can be configured to ping a
>> collection of
>> different external sites and operate a relay if all of them stop
>> responding for a certain
>> length of time.
>> If you want to control it manually when it is working, then the same
>> Pi could be used
>> in a variety of ways.  It could provide a simple web site that you
>> access remotely
>> (after setting up port forwards in the router to allow incoming access
>> and either
>> having a fixed ip address or a means to discover what the current
>> address is.)
>>
>> John
>
> The router is running OPNsense. It is partly working, but some how it
> has got stuck.  I can use VNC to a raspberry pi and then use the pi's
> web browser to login to the router. When I select the reboot option the
> router does not respond which it should do. Marks Tapo looks like it
> might work. Thank you all
>
> The Tapo
>

You should be able to ssh into OpnSense, and do a command line reboot.

On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
> later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>
>
Well I am building one at the moment. Raspberry pi zero W, although for
your application, a straight Pi zero and an ethernet hat might be more
reliable,, and a relay hat with four relays on.

Its destined to control, my central heating a bit more precisely than it
currently is. It should save me serious money.

A simple web interface to control, the 4 relays directly, would be
trivial. to build - I am being far more complex than that. Even simpler
would be to use a command line via e.g. ssh remote login and type in
something like 'relay 1 off' 'relay 1 on'
etc.

However if the internet router is the thing to be restarted, how are you
going to connect to it?

Also, why not spend your money on a better internet router that doesn't
need restarting?

Since I bought my Draytek Vigor for over a hundred folding ones, I have
never deeded to reboot it, unless after a configuration change. It
crashes every time the power cuts, and it always comes back up smiling.

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In article <ua2du5$2ijri$1@dont-email.me>,
Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
> Simplest way is a plug in electronic timer to switch off at 3am and on at
> 3:01. A single disconnection event in 24 hrs shouldn't really bother
> DLM, although I sometimes get a resync a few hours later.

Years ago I found my router had suffered a "lock out" during the night. I
decided it was the occasional "brown out" on the mains. I bought a small
UPS and the problem went away.

--
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"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

If the router is so unreliable why are you bothering, just replace it with
something more reliable. Also remember a lot of glitches occur due to the
naff psus these things have, add some years wear on capacitors etc, and you
have a very bad recipe for reliability!

Brian

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"Michael Chare" <mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
news:ua0pqp$29hgs$1@dont-email.me...
> On 28/07/2023 15:10, John Walliker wrote:
>> On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 15:04:21 UTC+1, Theo wrote:
>>> Michael Chare <mUNDERS...@charedotorg.uk> wrote:
>>>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
>>>> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
>>>> later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>>> When you say 'web controlled', that could mean:
>>>
>>> 1. accessible via a web page on the local network
>>> 2. the above plus some port forwards and a dynamic DNS entry to make it
>>> accessible over the internet
>>> 3. the widget phones home to its manufacturer and they give you a
>>> control
>>> panel to login to control your widgets
>>> 4. the same as #3 but with a mobile app
>>>
>>> Which one did you want?
>>>
>>> If you're rebooting the router because it has problems, how do you
>>> propose
>>> to access it if the router is broken enough that the network connection
>>> is not
>>> working?
>>>
>>> (you can probably get them with a mobile modem inside, but that gets
>>> complicated with SIM cards and stuff)
>>>
>>> Theo
>> If you really do want to power cycle a router when it loses contact with
>> the internet,
>> then a simple computer like a Raspberry Pi can be configured to ping a
>> collection of
>> different external sites and operate a relay if all of them stop
>> responding for a certain
>> length of time.
>> If you want to control it manually when it is working, then the same Pi
>> could be used
>> in a variety of ways. It could provide a simple web site that you access
>> remotely
>> (after setting up port forwards in the router to allow incoming access
>> and either
>> having a fixed ip address or a means to discover what the current address
>> is.)
>>
>> John
>
> The router is running OPNsense. It is partly working, but some how it has
> got stuck. I can use VNC to a raspberry pi and then use the pi's web
> browser to login to the router. When I select the reboot option the router
> does not respond which it should do. Marks Tapo looks like it might work.
> Thank you all
>
> The Tapo
>
> --
> Michael Chare
>

I remember a couple of years back I was getting crashes on the Virgin
router. They guy just threw away the psu and plugged in a new one, its been
fine ever since.
Under engineering at its best I thought.
Brian

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> In article <ua2du5$2ijri$1@dont-email.me>,
> Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
>> Simplest way is a plug in electronic timer to switch off at 3am and on at
>> 3:01. A single disconnection event in 24 hrs shouldn't really bother
>> DLM, although I sometimes get a resync a few hours later.
>
> Years ago I found my router had suffered a "lock out" during the night. I
> decided it was the occasional "brown out" on the mains. I bought a small
> UPS and the problem went away.
>
> --
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> "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Saturday, 29 July 2023 at 07:05:13 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
> > Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
> > off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
> > later. i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
> >
> >
> Well I am building one at the moment. Raspberry pi zero W, although for
> your application, a straight Pi zero and an ethernet hat might be more
> reliable,, and a relay hat with four relays on.
>
> Its destined to control, my central heating a bit more precisely than it
> currently is. It should save me serious money.
>
> A simple web interface to control, the 4 relays directly, would be
> trivial. to build - I am being far more complex than that. Even simpler
> would be to use a command line via e.g. ssh remote login and type in
> something like 'relay 1 off' 'relay 1 on'
> etc.
>
> However if the internet router is the thing to be restarted, how are you
> going to connect to it?
>
> Also, why not spend your money on a better internet router that doesn't
> need restarting?
>
> Since I bought my Draytek Vigor for over a hundred folding ones, I have
> never deeded to reboot it, unless after a configuration change. It
> crashes every time the power cuts, and it always comes back up smiling.
>
The Vigor 130 seems to be one of the few VDSL modems that has no nasty
firmware bugs.
John

On 29/07/2023 07:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/07/2023 14:53, Michael Chare wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest a web controlled relay which will switch something
>> off when asked and then switch it on again automatically a few seconds
>> later.  i.e. suitable for restarting and internet router remotely!
>>
>>
> Well I am building one at the moment. Raspberry pi zero W, although for
> your application, a straight Pi zero and an ethernet hat might be more
> reliable,, and a relay hat with four relays on.
>
> Its destined to control, my central heating a bit more precisely than it
> currently is. It should save me serious money.
>
> A simple web interface to control, the 4 relays directly, would be
> trivial. to build - I am being far more complex than that. Even simpler
> would be to use a command line via e.g. ssh remote login  and type in
> something like 'relay 1 off' 'relay 1 on'
> etc.
>
> However if the internet router is the thing to be restarted, how are you
> going to connect to it?
>
> Also, why not spend your money on a better internet router that doesn't
> need restarting?
>
> Since I bought my Draytek Vigor for over a hundred folding ones, I have
> never deeded to reboot it, unless after a configuration change. It
> crashes every time the power cuts, and it always comes back up smiling.
>

opnSense is just router software, mainly a web frontend to FreeBSD. It
is a fork of pfSense, which I've run for a decade. On my hardware it is
dependable (crash maybe 1 or 2 times a year). Apart from the DNS server,
which is a little flaky, it is Unbound

Back in the day, the benefit was you could run it on hardware powerful
enough to have fast VPN tunnels (100Mb/s+). Which routers like the
Draytek couldn't do. With improvements in Arm processors (e.g. RK2558),
more efficient software Wireguard VPN, Docker, and my improved
understanding of networking, this is no longer necessary.

I'll probably continue using pfSense because, I prefer hands on software
to a locked down commercial router, but there is probably no longer a
compelling reason to do so.

Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
> opnSense is just router software, mainly a web frontend to FreeBSD. It
> is a fork of pfSense, which I've run for a decade. On my hardware it is
> dependable (crash maybe 1 or 2 times a year). Apart from the DNS server,
> which is a little flaky, it is Unbound
>
> Back in the day, the benefit was you could run it on hardware powerful
> enough to have fast VPN tunnels (100Mb/s+). Which routers like the
> Draytek couldn't do. With improvements in Arm processors (e.g. RK2558),
> more efficient software Wireguard VPN, Docker, and my improved
> understanding of networking, this is no longer necessary.
>
> I'll probably continue using pfSense because, I prefer hands on software
> to a locked down commercial router, but there is probably no longer a
> compelling reason to do so.

OpenWRT is an open source firmware that runs on a wide range of consumer
routers, including many Arm-based ones as you mention, as well as x86. So
it may offer you the best of both worlds: low power, compact hardware
designed for routing (with good wifi etc), but hands on software. It supports
Wireguard and Docker, among many other packages.

Theo

On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 03:26:07 -0700, John Walliker wrote:

> The Vigor 130 seems to be one of the few VDSL modems that has no nasty
> firmware bugs.

I ran a Draytek router for ten years, with the occasional power cycle
(usually long power cuts) and never had to reboot it. It had a few other
bugs right at the start, but Draytek fixed them promptly.

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On 29/07/2023 10:49, Brian Gaff wrote:

> If the router is so unreliable why are you bothering, just replace it with
> something more reliable. Also remember a lot of glitches occur due to the
> naff psus these things have, add some years wear on capacitors etc, and you
> have a very bad recipe for reliability!

Yes I hardly ever have to reboot my tp-link router. I did the other day,
the first time in over a year, if not two.

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