On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:36:47 -0500
Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

> Tease'n'Seize said:
> > Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> >
> >> Peter wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b68mq9w5gxx2m6r/AAAg00l44eoyXdHgsYBBXUo5a?dl=0
> >>
> >> A simple url to an img/jpg/png/ would be much preferred.
> >
> > If you're sure ...
>
> I'd hate to see your idea of "complicated".
>
That was much nicer; shame about the url lth, but I'd take that any day over scripting web pages.

> Dropbox also removes things afer a while.

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Kerr-Mudd, John said:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:36:47 -0500 Richard Robinson
> <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Tease'n'Seize said:
>> > Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> >
>> >> Peter wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b68mq9w5gxx2m6r/AAAg00l44eoyXdHgsYBBXUo5a?dl=0
>> >>
>> >> A simple url to an img/jpg/png/ would be much preferred.
>> >
>> > If you're sure ...
>>
>> I'd hate to see your idea of "complicated".
>>
> That was much nicer; shame about the url lth, but I'd take that any
> day over scripting web pages.

Ah, okay, good then.

(I do prefer simple queries so you can see what you're asking for.)

But, curses, I wasn't paying attention. If you just change the last
character of the original link so it's dl=1 ... guess what it does ?

Nice photos, anyway.

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On 21-Apr-22 10:00, Peter wrote:
> Yes, interesting. I've seen that quite often - animals caught looking
> directly at the camera. At night they might be able to see the infra-red
> flash but in daylight the camera is quite passive, so maybe the fox is just
> appraising an unfamiliar object to see whether it might be a threat.

On the topic of I-R flash.
We have two such cameras.
On the older cheapy one, you can clearly see an array of red LEDs dimly
glowing when it clocks you. The cats & foxes will turn & look at it,
but it doesn't seem to bother them too much.
The newer rkcrafvir one doesn't produce a glow that _I_ can see, but
nocturnal animals might have better coverage in the near-IR region.

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On 21-Apr-22 17:41, Peter wrote:
> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:t3rqhn$eln$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 21/04/2022 15:31, Peter wrote:
>>> Tone <tone@email.com> wrote in news:t3reds$d6u$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What model wildlife camera ar you using Peter?
>>>
>>> I don't know, Tone. I bought it many years ago and I've lost the
>>> paperwork - there are no manufacturers' marks. It's pretty standard,
>>> 12Mp, 2-level IR flash, motion-triggered, options for still or video
>>> photography (the video only works in daytime), takes a standard SD
>>> card, no wifi or bluetooth. There is a more expensive version which
>>> does have wifi but it's a bit heavy on batteries - on mine, 8 AA
>>> batteries will keep it going unattended for about 6 weeks (in theory,
>>> though the most I've left it unattended for is two weeks). It comes
>>> with a strap for tree-mounting and a standard tripod fitting for
>>> fitting to a tripod.
>>>
>>> Glancing at the big river it looks identical to this one:
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/ezs4ne7e
>>>
>>> but was cheaper (but that was about 10 years ago). It can produce
>>> very good photos but is a bit sensitive to flare and there are blank
>>> periods early and late in the day when it doesn't know whether to use
>>> IR or visible so it does neither. But on the whole, I've been very
>>> pleased with it.
>>>
>>
>> Thank's for t'info, Peter. Considering.
>>
>> Where I am located lots goes on at night, animalwise. (Not analwise).
>
> One thing I should have mentioned, though you'll know this already, is that
> infra red photography only gives B&W images. So I get excellent colour
> rendition during the day, but any photos taken at night will only be black
> and white. Makes no difference when photographing badgers, of course.

Well you're assuming that.
Fashion-conscious badgers might have been tinting their stripes for decades.

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Richard Robinson wrote:

> If you just change the last
> character of the original link so it's dl=1 ... guess what it does ?

that generally works for me, but you get some people moa^H^Hentioning that dl=0
doesn't for them, and others mentioning that dl=1 doesn't work for them, so it's
difficult to decide what's best.

Tease'n'Seize said:
> Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> If you just change the last
>> character of the original link so it's dl=1 ... guess what it does ?
>
> that generally works for me, but you get some people moa^H^Hentioning that dl=0
> doesn't for them, and others mentioning that dl=1 doesn't work for them, so it's
> difficult to decide what's best.

Gawd, really ? Um, clearly something else would be best, but that's not
helpful.

Personally I pay pair.com a v. small amount of rent for space to do it
myself, but I suppose there's a fairly high bar to realising that the
bar isn't that high really. (From which, it follows that I've not looked
for, or found, any nicer public sites. Sorry).

Life was so much simpler before Theybuggrem worked out how to zbargvfr
it.

"zbargise" is a nice notquiteaword.

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On 21/04/2022 11:16, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>
> Being nocturnal hunters their colour vision is not as well developed as
> that of primates and their rods are more sensitive at the blue end of
> the spectrum. My camera emits a human visible red light in order to auto
> focus in low light levels. The foxes do not show any sign that they have
> seen this when I am preparing to take a picture of them.

That's not surprising. Humans are apparently incapable of seeing
flashing red LEDs, or at least so I presume having seen many, many TV
programmes where a bug or tracking device is hidden under something and
invariably has a red flashing LED on it.

On 23/04/2022 19:37, Mike Fleming wrote:

> That's not surprising. Humans are apparently incapable of seeing
> flashing red LEDs, or at least so I presume having seen many, many TV
> programmes where a bug or tracking device is hidden under something and
> invariably has a red flashing LED on it.

That's artistic licence, and is used to tell the audience that, yes,
this is a tracking bug.

Real ones don't have the LED. Well, mine does, but it's hidden inside
the tracker, and you have to really look hard to see it, as it's only
visible when the tracker is on charge, and is hidden behind the SIM.

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In article <jcivb5Fboj9U3@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming
<mike@tauzero.co.uk> on Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 19:37:24 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>On 21/04/2022 11:16, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>>
>> Being nocturnal hunters their colour vision is not as well developed as
>> that of primates and their rods are more sensitive at the blue end of
>> the spectrum. My camera emits a human visible red light in order to auto
>> focus in low light levels. The foxes do not show any sign that they have
>> seen this when I am preparing to take a picture of them.
>
>That's not surprising. Humans are apparently incapable of seeing
>flashing red LEDs, or at least so I presume having seen many, many TV
>programmes where a bug or tracking device is hidden under something and
>invariably has a red flashing LED on it.

Some red LEDs are becoming increasingly difficult to read like on my fan
heater and my video recorder; cataracts I am told.

OTOH I am typing this on a screen which I have set to a black
background, the message to which I am replying in is set to red and my
typing is set to yellow. All very readable by my ageing mark 1 eyeballs.
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In article <ssGdnex2xurnZcL_nZ2dnUU7-bOdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 07:11:38 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Peter said:
>> Under my shed there's an old disused badger set.
>
>A complete set would be very "collectable". Put 'em on ebay.
>
I am just set tling down to watch a collectable.
>
>Never mind, I'm just feeling trivial.

+1

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 20:52:38 +0100
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> In article <jcivb5Fboj9U3@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming
> <mike@tauzero.co.uk> on Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 19:37:24 awoke Nicholas
> from his slumbers and wrote
> >On 21/04/2022 11:16, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> >>
> >> Being nocturnal hunters their colour vision is not as well developed as
> >> that of primates and their rods are more sensitive at the blue end of
> >> the spectrum. My camera emits a human visible red light in order to auto
> >> focus in low light levels. The foxes do not show any sign that they have
> >> seen this when I am preparing to take a picture of them.
> >
> >That's not surprising. Humans are apparently incapable of seeing
> >flashing red LEDs, or at least so I presume having seen many, many TV
> >programmes where a bug or tracking device is hidden under something and
> >invariably has a red flashing LED on it.
>
> Some red LEDs are becoming increasingly difficult to read like on my fan
> heater and my video recorder; cataracts I am told.
>
> OTOH I am typing this on a screen which I have set to a black
> background, the message to which I am replying in is set to red and my
> typing is set to yellow. All very readable by my ageing mark 1 eyeballs.

I'm reading in black on pale yellow. I think I found a website some years back that claimed it gave less eye-strain.

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Kerr-Mudd, John said:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 20:52:38 +0100 "Nicholas D. Richards"
> <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>> In article <jcivb5Fboj9U3@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming
>> >On 21/04/2022 11:16, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Being nocturnal hunters their colour vision is not as well
>> >> developed as that of primates and their rods are more sensitive at
>> >> the blue end of the spectrum. My camera emits a human visible red
>> >> light in order to auto focus in low light levels. The foxes do not
>> >> show any sign that they have seen this when I am preparing to take
>> >> a picture of them.
>> >
>> >That's not surprising. Humans are apparently incapable of seeing
>> >flashing red LEDs, or at least so I presume having seen many, many
>> >TV programmes where a bug or tracking device is hidden under
>> >something and invariably has a red flashing LED on it.
>>
>> Some red LEDs are becoming increasingly difficult to read like on my
>> fan heater and my video recorder; cataracts I am told.
>>
>> OTOH I am typing this on a screen which I have set to a black
>> background, the message to which I am replying in is set to red and
>> my typing is set to yellow. All very readable by my ageing mark 1
>> eyeballs.
>
> I'm reading in black on pale yellow. I think I found a website some
> years back that claimed it gave less eye-strain.

"For those of you who are watching in black and white" ...

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"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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On 24/04/2022 11:32, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Kerr-Mudd, John said:
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 20:52:38 +0100 "Nicholas D. Richards"
>> <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OTOH I am typing this on a screen which I have set to a black
>>> background, the message to which I am replying in is set to red and
>>> my typing is set to yellow. All very readable by my ageing mark 1
>>> eyeballs.
>>
>> I'm reading in black on pale yellow. I think I found a website some
>> years back that claimed it gave less eye-strain.
>
> "For those of you who are watching in black and white" ...

Funnily enough, in the snooker a few days ago, Mark Williams had to ask
which was the brown ball as he has trouble distinguishing it from the
red balls - not normally an issue as it tends to be at the other end of
the table but it had found its way into a cluster of reds.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 23:23:54 +0100, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 24/04/2022 11:32, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Kerr-Mudd, John said:
>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 20:52:38 +0100 "Nicholas D. Richards"
>>> <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OTOH I am typing this on a screen which I have set to a black
>>>> background, the message to which I am replying in is set to red and
>>>> my typing is set to yellow. All very readable by my ageing mark 1
>>>> eyeballs.
>>>
>>> I'm reading in black on pale yellow. I think I found a website some
>>> years back that claimed it gave less eye-strain.
>>
>> "For those of you who are watching in black and white" ...
>
>Funnily enough, in the snooker a few days ago, Mark Williams had to ask
>which was the brown ball as he has trouble distinguishing it from the
>red balls - not normally an issue as it tends to be at the other end of
>the table but it had found its way into a cluster of reds.

I didn't even know there was a brown ball and/or I didn't know the
others were red. (I have the same problem).

Nick

In article <r3tk6ht8kh0ohslt8s2rjeu1ikf32pvle2@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> on Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 12:04:34 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 23:23:54 +0100, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On 24/04/2022 11:32, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>> Kerr-Mudd, John said:
>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 20:52:38 +0100 "Nicholas D. Richards"
>>>> <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH I am typing this on a screen which I have set to a black
>>>>> background, the message to which I am replying in is set to red and
>>>>> my typing is set to yellow. All very readable by my ageing mark 1
>>>>> eyeballs.
>>>>
>>>> I'm reading in black on pale yellow. I think I found a website some
>>>> years back that claimed it gave less eye-strain.
>>>
>>> "For those of you who are watching in black and white" ...
>>
>>Funnily enough, in the snooker a few days ago, Mark Williams had to ask
>>which was the brown ball as he has trouble distinguishing it from the
>>red balls - not normally an issue as it tends to be at the other end of
>>the table but it had found its way into a cluster of reds.
>
>I didn't even know there was a brown ball and/or I didn't know the
>others were red. (I have the same problem).
>
From the questions that my wife asks, I suspect that my wife (more
unusually) has the same problem. Our son definitely has that problem, so
she must at least be a carrier (it is carried on the X chromosome).
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