On 19/5/2022 4:55 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 19/05/2022 4:23 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 19/5/2022 3:17 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 19/05/2022 2:28 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 19/5/2022 1:35 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 19/05/2022 12:07 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/5/2022 10:23 am, John_H wrote:
>>>>>>> lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm getting old... most shit on media that i observe, (television,
>>>>>>>> radio) doesnt really faze me.... But when you're force fed
>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>> *SHIT*, that we have to pay for, I draw the line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the last 10 mins, I've heard "there's a hole in your
>>>>>>>> budget...) 4
>>>>>>>> times on prime time tv, , I heard it 4 times in 30 mins on TTFM
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> morning before I punched the clock radio in the face and swapped to
>>>>>>>> digital.... I believe they actually changed it to a more modern
>>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>>> today, but I havent heard it...thankfully.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm nearly happy, I voted early, so I dont have to stand around
>>>>>>>> in a 45
>>>>>>>> minute queue with all the dirty fucks without a mask... I could
>>>>>>>> lie, and
>>>>>>>> say I dont care who wins... I do.. but find the cunt who came up
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> "theres a hole in your budget", and "put him in the curry" ffs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0n88tZQc4Q
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> put 'em *ALL* in the curry....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope you didn't put a major party at 1 which gets them  $3 or so for
>>>>>>> your vote (in spite of what others may say it's the taxpayer who
>>>>>>> pays
>>>>>>> for their shit).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also hope you never drew a prick on your ballot paper as one got
>>>>>>> elected last time (as I heard somewhere recently).  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw a sign on the hwy not far from here which says "Put the
>>>>>> majors last", not a bad idea but my electorate is a Labor
>>>>>> stronghold so I vote Liberal mostly in an attempt to weaken Labors
>>>>>> hold on the electorate and to make it more marginal.
>>>>>> At the last State election there was a significant swing away from
>>>>>> Labor here so hopefully the same thing will happen at the Federal
>>>>>> election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **A vote for the COALition ensures:
>>>>>
>>>>> * That the smirking, religious fool, Scummo and his sidekick, Joyce
>>>>> will be returned to power. Don't forget: Joyce runs the country
>>>>> when Scummo is somewhere else.
>>>>
>>>> As opposed to the Albanese dimwit?
>>>
>>> **Points:
>>>
>>> * I agree that Albo was a poor choice as leader and I am profoundly
>>> disappointed that Labor dumped all of Shorten's excellent policies.
>>> * We KNOW exactly how corrupt and how dumb Scummo (I believe in
>>> miracles) is.
>>> * We don't know how badly (or goodly) Albo might perform as PM.
>>
>> That's the problem, why take the risk, if he is a dim as he appears we
>> are even more screwed than we are now.
>
> **Scummo is the worst PM we've seen in quite some time. He can not and
> should not be rewarded for lying, pork barrelling and fucking up. You
> have kids. Did you reward them when they fucked up?
>
> Of course you didn't. Don't reward Scummo now.
>
>>
>>> * We know EXACTLY how badly and corruptly Scummo and Joyce are.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> * That zero progress on reducing CO2 emissions will occur.
>>>>
>>>> Since Australia's contribution to world emissions is a smidge over
>>>> 1% anything we do including if we went to zero overnight will make
>>>> sfa difference to the world.
>>>
>>> **You fucking moron. Stop using that pitifully idiotic bullshit claim.
>>
>> Its the only measure that makes any sense.
>>>
>>> EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ONE THE PLANET must act to reduce CO2 emissions.
>>
>> OK then, I have 11.2kw of solar panels, solar hot water and a new
>> energy efficient house, tell us again what you have done?
>
> **ALL my power is derived from renewable sources. Every single Watt.
>
>>
>>
>>> Every American, Every Chinese citizen, every German and every
>>> Australian.
>>>
>>>> Not saying we shouldn't or can't do things better but it needs to be
>>>> put into perspective, see above.
>>>
>>> **Yes, it does. EVERYONE has to act to reduce CO2 emissions. We are
>>> INCREASING ours under the COALition government.
>>
>> See below, you are wrong.
>> https://www.csiro.au/en/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change/climate-change-qa/sources-of-ghg-gases#:~:text=Australian%20emissions&text=According%20to%20the%20December%202020,contributor%20to%20Australia's%20carbon%20emissions.
>
>
> **Flattened out, but it must be reduced.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> I also think that whilst Labor will make a lot more noise about
>>>> reducing emissions the result won't be any different regardless of
>>>> which party is in Govt because in the end its the general public and
>>>> business who spend their own money on actually doing something and
>>>> they will make their decisions based on what suits them rather than
>>>> what any Govt wants.
>>>
>>> **And yet, the last time Labor was in power, Australia REDUCED it's
>>> CO2 emissions by a very impressive 7%.
>>
>> What does 7% of next to nothing (1% of the worlds emissions) equal?
>
> **Irrelevant. If every nation adopted the same tactics, then total world
> emissions would have been cut by a similar amount.
>
>> Answer, 7% of 1% equals fuck all.
>
> **And yet, 7% of 100% is quite a bit.
>
>> What effect on the world would there be if overnight Australia's
>> emissions dropped to zero?
>
> **And once more: EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ONE THE PLANET must act to reduce
> CO2 emissions.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> An example of how Govt meddling in renewable energy failed is the
>>>> Vic Govt solar rebate, the very significant extra costs in
>>>> administering the rebate fell to the solar suppliers and the costs
>>>> were passed on to the customers resulting in price increases similar
>>>> to the value of the rebate so its better if Govts don't get
>>>> involved, they just fuck it up.
>>>
>>> **I see. So you are happy with The National's insistence that the
>>> GOVERNMENT put taxpayer funds into coal fired power stations and that
>>> fucking idiot, Scummo's promise to put taxpayer funds in gas fired
>>> power stations?
>>
>> Since Govt will not fully fund those projects
>
> **Bullshit. They have already stated that they are prepared to fund them
> fully with YOUR money.
>
> Stranded assets anyone?
>
>  in the end it will be
>> business who decides whether or not such projects go ahead and its
>> their investors who have the most say in it, its business who is
>> shutting down coal fired power simply because they know its a bad
>> investment,
>
>
> **Exactly and the government wants to build coal fired generators and
> gas fired generators, precisely because business wants nothing to do
> with something that is bad business. Your wonderful Scummo wants to
> throw YOUR money at stranded assets. He is a fucking idiot.
>
>  they do
>> that despite what Govt wants so you can bleat all you like but the
>> Govt has a lot less influence on the outcome than you think.
>
> **And, once more: The government has indicated that they will build
> them, if business won't.
>
>>>
>>> I suggest you look up the term: 'Stranded asset'.
>>>
>>> And, since taxpayer funds are being used, it is taxpayers that will
>>> foot the bill for these clowns and their idiotic ideas.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> * We will not have a Federal ICAC.
>>>>
>>>> I support an ICAC if I thought that it would be effective, if it was
>>>> we wouldn't have any Govt, Labor or Liberal because they are all
>>>> equally corrupt.
>>>
>>> **And that is what an ICAC is designed to deal with. Regardless of
>>> who is in power. ANYONE who dodges implementing an ICAC (like Scummo
>>> has done) has something to hide.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> * There will be unrestrained spending on useless car parks, sports
>>>>> rorts and all the other shit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You mean like Gillards school hall/gym projects?
>>>
>>> **You mean Rudd's? And, here's the thing: For the most part, those
>>> building projects were useful and they kept the economy bubbling
>>> along. Sports rorts and car parks were either useless or were just
>>> plain old pork barrelling.
>>
>> Same as car parks etc, any and all can be claimed by someone to be
>> needed, pork barrelling is just normal politics no matter who does it,
>> get over it.
>
> **School buildings were spread across the nation, regardless of which
> electorate they were in. Not pork barrelling.
>
> Why do YOU support pork barrelling?
>
>>>
>>>> Both parties are guilty of pork barrelling, it has always been so
>>>> and always will be.
>>>
>>> **The COALition has elevated it to an extreme degree, but I do agree.
>>> Pork barrelling must end. Voting for Scummo/Joyce will mean that we
>>> will get more pork barrelling, not less.
>>
>> LOL, only a very naive one eyed person can't see that they are all as
>> bad as each other in that regard.
>
> **Wrong. The COALition is much worse than Labor:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/sep/12/-sp-pork-barrelling-whos-worse-the-coalition-or-labor
>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> None of above is relevant in my electorate since its a Labor
>>>> stronghold, Labor do nothing because they know the wood ducks will
>>>> always vote for them no matter what and the Libs do nothing because
>>>> they know that its a Labor area, only way to make change is for it
>>>> to be a marginal seat, I would say and do the same if it was a
>>>> Liberal area.
>>>
>>> **Think of the big picture, not your own backyard.
>>>
>> That would be dumb, I only vote in my electorate, what happens
>> elsewhere is beyond my control.
>
> **Wrong. You have a senate vote as well.
>
>> Even if I did vote Labor or Green it wouldn't make any difference to
>> the overall result, as much as I hope that my vote will result in a
>> marginal electorate we will most likely end up with another useless
>> Labor MP.
>
> **So, instead, you vote for an even more useless COALition MP.
>

Read what I wrote, I voted in the vain attempt to make my electorate
marginal, no hope of a Liberal being elected anywhere near here, I
really don't give a damn who wins but the difference it will make to
mine or anyone else's life is minimal, in the 69yrs I've been around we
have had plenty of Govts of either color yet life goes on.
You are delusional if you think any Govt is going to do much to make
your life better or worse.
I get that you don't like the PM and that's your choice but unless you
have meet him in person you really have no idea what he's like.
I've told the story a few times of my brothers experience having lunch
one on one with Kevin Rudd when he was PM, at first he thought that Rudd
was an utter arsehole but after spending an hour with him he changed his
mind and in the end he thought that he was a decent bloke, point is its
not clever to condemn someone you really don't know.

--
Daryl