On 23/05/2022 7:52 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 22/05/2022 8:57 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> Best news of the lot in my opinion is that ugly fat ranting cunt Craig
>> Kelly will not only *not* be our next Prime Minister, but he's lost his
>> seat as well.
>>
>> Couldn't happen to a more deserving pig-eyed sack of shit.
>
> :-D
>
> saw this on-line earlier...
> "Clive Palmer and the United Australia Party, it hasn't been that great.
> About $100 million in outlays. I can see 231,000 votes for them in the
> Senate and a swing to them of 1.4 per cent. So that's a lot of money for
> 1.4 per cent, and at the moment nationally they seem to be behind Legal
> Cannabis Australia which I don't think spent $100 million. Australians
> know what they want and they don't need $100 million to tell them."
>
> Sounds about right to me. I hope the pair of fat fucks do a 'Mr
> Creosote' and explode, or self immolate.

Sounds fair to me.

>>> My only concerns are
>>>
>>> 1: Can albo handle the chinese (lower case). Granted scomo didnt
>>> light the world on fire, what with demanding some cunt in china
>>> remove a pic of an aus solider preparing to slit a childs throat. He
>>> got trolled bad there and reacted poorly... But he did stick to his
>>> guns when china handed a list of 14 things we would have to to to be
>>> friends with a bunch of bat eating cunts... As I cough my guts out
>>> again...)
>>
>> Hopefully you're on the improve.
>
> so 3 weeks in, certainly getting better, but have this persistent dry
> tickle cough that even scotch wont fix. But I keep trying, whilst the
> wife keeps buying.... :-)

Essential medication. Can't not....

> We are now converts to home deliveries from Woolies, Coles, Dan Murphys,
> et-al, esp whilst the price of fuel is so high. Wife got a woolies
> delivery for $5.00 It would have cost here more in fuel to go and get
> it. And it keeps her away from the disease ridden fucks... although we
> apparently cant get it again for 12 weeks. Dont care, I wear a N-95 mask
> everywhere I go.

Not so bad here and I occasionally where a mask, but I forget more often
than not. Especially if I swap from one car to another and don't realise
that car B hasn't got any in the glovvy.

The media has gone quiet on it lately, but We're not out of the woods
yet with this fucking pox. There are currently over 72 thousand active
cases in Victoria, and we're averaging around 6 fatalities a day.

>> Difficult to say how Albanese will do with foreign issues, as I get the
>> feeling he is seen as "weak". I dunno about China, but I read a report
>> on my phone this afternoon that people smugglers in Indonesia are
>> already selling places on boats to Australia.
>
> I have this impression that he will be 'soft' too. His new foreign
> minister will need some balls.. (Oh, hang on! and "cred" because she
> said so!)

Heh :)

>> Their own (Greens) defence policy is absolutely fucking useless, and I
>> don't think they'd be in favour of continuing the AUKUS agreement any
>> time soon. Fortunately for Albanese he will most likely have his pick of
>> who he needs to side with to form a minority Government, and hopefully
>> the Greens get left holding the baby.
>
> I'm sure I heard this arvo that the cards have fallen his way, and will
> be able to form a majority govt. Hopefully that will add some stability.

Hopefully they get the 76 seats they need for a majority, as I don't
think anyone wants to see a repeat of that bullshit that went on under
Gillard.

As of right now, the AEC website cites Labor as one seat short of the
necessary 76 seats needed to govern in their own right with 7 seats
still as yet to be decided. I assume that they're banking on picking up
at least one of those remaining 7 seats to give them the 76 that they
need, but I *also* assume that given that he was sworn in as Prime
Minister today he has gone to the Governor General and declared that he
has a Minority Government and has done a deal with either independents
or Greens for their support.

Something he said he would never do in the run up to the election :)

> Wasnt a major fan of scomo, but he did stand up to the bat eaters. Elbow
> will need to do the same, and spend the same, if not more, on defence.
> Not less.

Agreed.

I thought Morrison was a dick, but to be honest as long as the country
was in good shape I couldn't have cared less what bullshit he got up to
in front of the media's cameras. As for Albanese, I think he'll find the
going a little tough as being the leftie that he is he's probably far
less likely to take a hard line where necessary than Morrison would be.
Still, I may be wrong and it may turn out to be his forte.

I'm sure he'll find out soon enough. He's been thrown in at the deep end
a bit as he flies out to Tokyo for the Quad summit.

>>> 3: I've yet to see what Labours defence policy looks like. Did they
>>> offer bipartisan support for AUKUS, and the purchase of nuclear
>>> powered subs?
>>
>> Labor has supported the agreement, but Penny Wong has been overly
>> critical of the deal claiming that it's a threat to Australia's
>> "independence". I'm fucked if I know how buying a bunch of submarines
>> from countries we've been allied with for decades and who we've bought
>> military hardware from *many* times before could actually do that, but
>> apparently that's her position and it's one that's not exactly clear.
>> Whether she continues to hold that view on becoming foreign minister or
>> whether she changes her tune remains to be seen.
>
> A threat to our "independence" ?.. i wonder if she's seen what china
> (lower case) have been doing in the South china Sea? Sri-Lanka? Solomon
> Islands?

She's a bit of a radical fuckwit and I don't have a lot of time for her.
Still, being in opposition can bring that out in people. She'll need to
pull her head in a bit if she wants to serve any time as Foreign Minister.

>>> Or the Greens defence policy, for that matter. Trev?
>>
>> I'm not speaking for Trevor, but this is taken directly from their
>> "platform" web page, and lists the proposed defence policies that they
>> took to the election:
>>
>> [quote]
>>
>>> Renegotiate the US alliance to secure a new relationship focused on
>>> making us a better global citizen
>
> wtf? Are we a poor one now? Obviously we're not doing enough to help out
> Ukraine? All the peacekeeping we've done in the Persian Gulf, in Timor,
> New Guinea... currently in the Soly islands? Tonga? We're to simply stop
> all that?

I think the Greens idea of being a "better global citizen" is to run
around putting flowers in guns and telling people that it would be a
rooly rooly bad vibe to shoot at each other.

>>> Pass War Powers legislation to ensure governments can’t send us to
>>> war without Parliamentary approval
>>
>>> Close all military bases that foreign militaries have set up
>>> in this country
>
> Which ones?  Pine Gap? Insane. So they'd be happy to turf out the US

Apparently.

>>> Sign and ratify the Nuclear Weapons Ban Treaty
>
> Why? Whats that going to achieve? A pisssant country of 25 million, who
> has no nuclear weapons has to sign a treaty that the worlds worst hasnt
> signed? The 3 rouge countries (china, nNrth Korea and Russia) will need
> to sign that and remove their stockpiles first.

Yeah, it's not like any other country in the world is going to take the
slightest notice of anything we ever do, which makes the argument of us
needing to lead by example on climate change look even *more* ridiculous :)

>>> Ban the development and use of Lethal Autonomous Weapons in line with
>>> the
>>> international campaign ‘Stop Killer Robots’
>
> Right. I'm buying shares in 'Slingshots are us' tomorrow, Trebuchets
> will be all the rage up north soon.

Lol :)

>>> Reduce military spending to 1.5 % of GDP by buying fewer guns and tanks,
>>> and ensuring that we have a light, readily deployable and highly
>>> mobile force that meets the needs of our place in the world
>
> I'd double it to 4% just like china has increased theirs...

Just for shits and giggles I'd like to actually hear what the Greens
idea of a light, readily deployable and highly mobile force" actually
is, and how effective it would actually be against a full scale invasion.

>>> Increase oversight of defence procurement by establishing a
>>> Parliamentary Defence Office to provide independent advice to Members
>>> of Parliament.
>>
>> [end quote]
>>
>> They advertise these defence policy measures as a downloadable PDF
>> under the heading of "Peace, Disarmament, and Demilitarisation"
>
> Yeah, that'll work.  Everyone hold hands.. here we go.. Kumbuya...

LGBTQ+ coloured unicorns armed and ready to fire, captain.

>>> I'm only interested in things that matter to me and mine.  Fair
>>> chance Australia will be at war with china within 10 years, if not
>>> earlier. Depending if Albo and Wong turfs our alliance with USA. He
>>> does that? Were sitting ducks. If china invade Taiwan, and USA backs
>>> them, so will we, as the terms of our alliance. We dont? No alliance,
>>> and we're next. It will all end in tears.. :-)
>>
>> It absolutely will, and we have a choice to make. Hopefully the people
>> in power take the "soft cock" option and leave us all standing here
>> with our dicks in the wind.
>
> If allowed, why would they continue pay massive prices for iron ore,
> when they could just come and take it?

They will eventually one day I think, and when that time comes there
will be little we can do about it. I think what's going on in the
Ukraine has given them a moment of pause with regards to us, but it's
also probably made Taiwan look like an easier target at the moment.
America is investing heavily in supplying arms and aid to Ukraine, and
their budget would be alarmingly stretched if China suddenly moved
forces across the Taiwan Straight.

>> Personally if I was Prime Minister I'd be asking the Yanks if we could
>> do a "fleet" deal on all the B-52's currently sitting in the Arizona
>> aircraft boneyard, and if it wasn't too much trouble if they could
>> ship them all here with a 40 megatonne load in each one. I'd then set
>> them on patrols 2 hours from targets inside China, and once they were
>> holding at their failsafe points I'd issue them with a Wing Attack
>> Plan R order :)
>
> We could do better, and wait a couple of years, and then buy a squadron
> or two of the new B-21 Raider. Gives us our long range strike capability
> back, and half the price of 12 French subs. When the F-111's were
> retired, blind freddy could see a vacuum. We should have leased a dozen
> B-1B Lancers to fill the gap. So we went and bought 24 F/A-18 E/F
> Hornets (great planes, dont get me wrong) but need aerial refuelling. A
> B-21, with the new antiship missiles we've purchased) can attack targets
> as far away as the South china Sea from Alice Springs. If required.
> That, and 6-8 nuclear powered subs should be the minimum of forward
> defence capability. Not to forget the manufacture of our own missiles.
> But the ones we've apparently purchased.. 200 x LRASM, unknown amount of
> the new Naval Strike Missile that even the US has bought, unknown amount
> of JASSM, we still have our stock of RGM 84 Harpoons as well... Gee,
> even china must be looking at that and thinking "is it worth it?" Hope so.

Lol :)

Couldn't agree more. We certainly live in interesting times. Hopefully
someone steps forward an puts a bullet right between Putin's eyes, and
the shock from that travels all the way to Beijing. Sending a message
like....

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Regards,
Noddy.