MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0749 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A sinner is not a
believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin. No sinner is sinless in any
way.

In spiritual places, stop declaring and claiming you have no sin.

If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not
born again and can't see the Kingdom of God."

MAXIMUS <GLADIATOR@COLOSSEUM.ROME> @ 1041 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "A
sinner is a believer in God because by definition sin is transgression of
DIVINE LAW."

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1324 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "So, you are
innocent?

I find that hard to believe."

DOLF @ 1358 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "You are doing well, the devils also
believe and tremble: "BLESSED IS THE MAN TO WHOM THE LORD WILL NOT IMPUTE
*SIN*-G266." [Romans 4:8]

#453 = #451 - PRAXIS OF RATIONALITY + #2 - FULL CIRCLE (FULL CIRCLE) as
[#1, #40, #1, #100, #300, #10, #1] = hamartía (G266): {UMBRA: #453 % #41 =
#2} 1) equivalent to 264; 1a) to be without a share in; 1b) to miss the
mark; 1c) to err, be mistaken; 1d) to miss or wander from the path of
uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong; 1e) to wander from the law of
God, violate God's law, sin; 2) that which is done wrong, sin, an offence,
*A* *VIOLATION* *OF* *THE* *DIVINE* *LAW* *IN* *THOUGHT* *OR* *IN* *ACT*;
3) collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a
single person or by many;

BUT WILT THOU KNOW, O VAIN MAN, THAT FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? FOR AS
THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT IS DEAD, SO FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD ALSO."
[James 2:19-20, 26]

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1450 HRS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "That is the man
who loves God with all their heart, soul, and mind.

Are you that man, Dolf?"

DOLF @ 1512 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "The use of the spelling stagnum as
a form of stannum (“tin”) is unattested before Pliny (23-79 CE). Tin has an
Atomic Number 50 and symbol Sn."

MICHAEL CHRIST <MICHAELMCLEAN2021@OUTLOOK.COM> @ 1610 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY
2024: "So, you are able to answer the question?"

DOLF @ 1657 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "We've proven our gospel is true and
yours is not as false.

The only thing saving you is ignorance since you cannot read beyond one
line and realise your reputation is for all eternity stained.

I'm going to now include your email address so that we may at the time of
our closing, take to you court for public slander."

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1755 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "Just look at
you carry on about a simple question, and try to obscure yourself with
nonsense!

If you can't even stand up in front of me, what hope is your religion got
of standing before God?"

DOLF @ 1809 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "It ought to be self apparent from
the IMAGO DEI evidence provided to you for over 20 years that my justified
and sanctified relationship with GOD is established upon a different
hypostasis than yours, by which cause you slander.

Ignorance is no excuse before the law."

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1826 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "You can't keep
the law, Buddy.

If you don't even know that, what hope have you got?

Now, have a real man go... Or are you going to run away by trying to
obscure yourself in gibberish and feigned abuse again?"

DOLF @ 1847 HOURS ON 14 FEBRUARY 2024: "The notion is HYPOSTASIS and since
you are unacquainted with such (ie. YOUR GOD / CHRIST IS ESTABLISHED UPON A
DIFFERENT HYPOSTASIS), I have included the broad definition:

PHILOSOPHY: an underlying reality or substance, as opposed to attributes or
to that which lacks substance.

THEOLOGY: (in Trinitarian doctrine) each of the three persons of the
Trinity, as contrasted with the unity of the Godhead and the single person
of Christ, as contrasted with his dual human and divine nature.

Try again and try not to use a straw man... but do you first need a formal
caution about your #68 - RIGHTS in conformity with the law or are you going
to plead mental incompetence within any legal action?"

TED [SAM THE MAN] <TED.STREET@GMAIL.COM> @ 0815 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024:
"Is it okay if I email you, MX?"

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0816 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "So, in terms of
logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I understand fully why you would
turn your back on the asshole sinner Xtian religionist Pharisees, the
pretenders of righteousness with bibles in their hands, but why did you
turn your back on God?

I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but can you or do
you have an answer?"

DOLF @ 0850 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "So you have no answer over
reasonable meta logic concerns that your BIPARTITE #1080 - HETEROS NUMBER
HYPOSTASIS which has a #540 - JUPITER PRINCIPLE (#666) as artifice that is
unrelated to the COGITA stratum as TRIPARTITE NUMBER notion of the
GODHEAD?"

TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0854 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "At first it was
because I finally came to realize that [YOUR] God gives every indication of
being a despicable prick. But I've also long understood that there isn't
much we can say about [YOUR] God because we're so infinitesimally
insignificant in comparison. So I can't be an atheist. But I also soon
understood that [YOUR STOICHEION AIR 💨, FIRE 🔥 , WATER 💧 OF THE KOSMOS]
YAHWEH was just made up." ([...] - inclusions mine @ 0910 HOURS)

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0917 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Well, as far as
I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but I do use the term in a
contemporary sense. I am saying that I could use the word "gay" to mean
what it really means, but I go along with the consensus meaning as the
means of relating to people in the place where they are.

Y'know, when in Rome."

TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0854 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "And that [YOUR EARTH
🌍 BORN] Jesus was just a fellow who got himself ['N'AILED] a long time
ago." ([...] - inclusions mine @ 0910 HOURS)

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 0917 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Okay. It is
tempting to go on but I'll leave it there."

DOLF @ 0730 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "The problem of YANG / YIN
INTERCOURSE (eg: ANKH as our comments above convey) is a question of #365 -
LUO SHU (SKY FATHER) / #364 - CANON OF SUPREME MYSTERY (EARTH MOTHER)
DEPENDENCY by western philosophy and like the cat 🐈‍⬛ chasing a meandering
light, have no idea that the CHANGES RUG OF CONSCIOUS REALITY can be pulled
out from underneath them at any time.

We have therefore no need for your divination of luck 🍀"

MICHAEL [TIN MAN] CHRIST @ 1027 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "[Sure]. And I
don't have to be abused by your perverted keyboard cowboyism."

TED [SAM THE MAN] @ 0938 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "Thanks man. I'm Sam."

DOLF @ 1052 HOURS ON 15 FEBRUARY 2024: "That's very Roman Catholic TIN MAN
as is your cock and bull gospel."

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Revision Date: 15 February 2024

Ted <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 15/02/2024 9:26 am, Ted wrote:
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/02/2024 8:54 am, Ted wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/02/2024 3:30 am, Ted wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2024 4:02 am, Jack Sovalot wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2024 6:47 am, Jack Sovalot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2024 6:18 am, Jaye Elke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 05:02:12 +1100, Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, all of Christendom concedes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that all their congregants remain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuing sinners, so why not have gay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What difference does it make? Isn't it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse to allow a straight sinner to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistreat a gay sinner?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a difference between one continuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinner who sins and another continuing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinner who sins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, hypocrisy and bigotry is alive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and well in sinner Christianity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So then, does God accept the gay lifestyle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Jesus was gay, and God Himself reveals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocacy of homosexuality in the OT. Read Keith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpe's The Gay Gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at that book recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is pure crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All it does is channel personal sexual preference
>>>>>>>>>>>> by massaging words and meanings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Typical of sinner Christianity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of anybody who takes that book
>>>>>>>>>>> seriously.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Except me. :-).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We disagree on many things about it, but it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> seem to matter with you. And the reason might
>>>>>>>>>> surprise you. It is because you are the closest thing
>>>>>>>>>> to a pure atheist here. Whereas, people like Holman,
>>>>>>>>>> JWS, Dawny Poo, Mycock, Tim, and even Kevrob and
>>>>>>>>>> others are mere pretenders and are not atheists at
>>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice of you to say, MX, thanks, although I don't really
>>>>>>>>> consider myself to be an atheist (despite Christopher
>>>>>>>>> Lee's insistence that I was).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't agree with Lee if my ass was on fire, except in
>>>>>>>> this instance. Being an unbeliever (AKA an atheist) has
>>>>>>>> nothing to do with words, terminology, or even thoughts;
>>>>>>>> it is a heart decision to reject Him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, what bothers God a hell of a lot more is a
>>>>>>>> person who likes to try and sit in a middle ground (e.g.,
>>>>>>>> lukewarm). All these pretend atheists sit in the middle
>>>>>>>> ground. Take someone like Bertrand Russell. When he was
>>>>>>>> asked if he found out when he died that there was a God,
>>>>>>>> what would he say to Him? "There wasn't enough proof."
>>>>>>>> Therefore, he's entertaining the option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Middle ground, in other words. As with Hitchens (dead),
>>>>>>>> Dawkins, etc., Sam Harris is a little more far left than
>>>>>>>> them but still the same. By the way, even Erhman is
>>>>>>>> middle ground.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, Timmy the faggot is definitely middle ground. :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are not middle ground, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks MX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>> of the things I like about you is that I agree with
>>>>>>>>> most of your sig (from a Christian perspective). And
>>>>>>>>> I'd never before met any other Christian whose thoughts
>>>>>>>>> were so similar to mine back when I was a christer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why didn't you go on then, because God would have taken
>>>>>>>> you through and out of the religion shit, like me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What stopped you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am intrigued because I often wonder why people do not
>>>>>>>> choose God? Most people think that if they reject God
>>>>>>>> that it makes Him angry; it does not. He gave people a
>>>>>>>> choice, and what, if they do not choose Him He stamps
>>>>>>>> around like a spoilt schoolboy that doesn't get His way?
>>>>>>>> No, a free choice is a free choice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course God isn't a petty little shit who gets pist at
>>>>>>> people who don't believe in him. But somehow, that's what
>>>>>>> they seem to think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hence...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rev_3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither
>>>>>>>> cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is why the Lord Jesus was so pissed off with the
>>>>>>>> Pharisees (lukewarm), but the prostitutes and the tax
>>>>>>>> collectors, well, He ate and drank with them and probably
>>>>>>>> had a scotch or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guess where the sinner Christians sit. :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. As it was 2000 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks MX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in terms of logic, just plain reality (non-emotional), I
>>>>>> understand fully why you would turn your back on the asshole
>>>>>> sinner Xtian religionist Pharisees, the pretenders of
>>>>>> righteousness with bibles in their hands, but why did you turn
>>>>>> your back on God?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will respect your answer, as I am sure you know by now, but
>>>>>> can you or do you have an answer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At first it was because I finally came to realize that God gives
>>>>> every indication of being a despicable prick. But I've also long
>>>>> understood that there isn't much we can say about God because
>>>>> we're so infinitesimally insignificant in comparison. So I
>>>>> can't be an atheist.
>>>>
>>>> Well, as far as I am concerned, atheists don't exist anyway, but
>>>> I do use the term in a contemporary sense. I am saying that I
>>>> could use the word "gay" to mean what it really means, but I go
>>>> along with the consensus meaning as the means of relating to
>>>> people in the place where they are.
>>>>
>>>> Y'know, when in Rome.
>>>>
>>>>> But I also soon undersood that Yahweh was just made up. And that
>>>>> Jesus was just a fellow who got himself killed a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>> Okay. It is tempting to go on but I'll leave it there.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it okay if I email you?
>>
>
>> Sure.
>
>
>
> Thanks man. I'm Sam.
>

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