Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage attitudes.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything in
>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of those
>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say Perth
>>>>>>> or Brisbane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>
>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>
>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>
>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>
>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>>>>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>
>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>
>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>
>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that Sydney
>>> and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural and more
>>> "world" cities.
>>
>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>
>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.

Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
come from quite small towns where they came from. But
that might well be because the prospects for those in those
small towns is so fucked.

>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,

>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>> even you went to sydney for that reason.

> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that. I only did that because the place I
> work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my services.

That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.

> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne are
> people who have grown up there because that is all they know.

That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.

>> So did a mate of mine from here, even tho I personally bought
>> a very decent 3 bedroom house for $232K in 2016 which they
>> paid for and which they have been renting out. Now worth well
>> over $400K. The rental market here is a tight as a fucking drum
>> even with a huger number of new houses being built every year.
>>
>> They are still in sydney because of the jobs and own a very
>> decent unit there.
>>
>>> made worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more busy,
>>> > socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people to
>>> travel to work.
>>
>> But with far more jobs to choose from.
>