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Re: euthanasia laws

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Subject: Re: euthanasia laws
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 14:54:46 +1000
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 by: Petzl - Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:54 UTC

On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 14:41:59 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Toby <toby@nowhere.net.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that vote was entirely voluntary so likely very biased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what if it was voluntary. It was voluntary for the whole of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia so a direct comparison can be made across the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSW came up a clear winner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> By a just couple of percent - you lying POS.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> for being the biggest opponent to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wrong - any opposition was to mindlessly degrading one of
>>>>>>>>>> the >>> basic
>>>>>>>>>> >>> laws of society, with unforseen consequences.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm actually opposed to same sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > More fool you. No reason why poofters cant have the
>>>>>>>>>> > same legal rights in marriage as anyone else if they are
>>>>>>>>>> > stupid enough to want to do something as stupid as that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my view, same sex relationships shouldn't be promoted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Allowing same sex marriage isn't promoting same sex relationships.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because they are against the biological order.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So is suicide. So what ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If animals behave homosexually they are regarded as sexually
>>>>>>>>>> deviant,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So are nymphomaniacs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and up until the 1970s homosexuality in humans was regarded as a
>>>>>>>>>> psychiatric disorder,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s mindless pig ignorant bullshit with the ancient greeks etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which I believe it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More fool you. Hard to claim that all those ancient greeks were
>>>>>>>>> barking mad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> But it surprises me that NSW is the most socially conservative,
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> >> it is,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Barely with the same sex marriage attitude.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> as evidenced by both euthanasia and same sex marriage
>>>>>>>>>> >> attitudes.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that they are with the euthanasia issue.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > ALL you actually know is that the state is last to do anything
>>>>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>>>>> > parliament about it.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> This is due to the obsession that immigrants have with Sydney.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You don’t know that either. There are in fact even more of
>>>>>>>>>> those > in
>>>>>>>>>> > Melburg.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are a shitload more immigrants coming to Sydney than say
>>>>>>>>>> Perth or Brisbane.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but that isn't true of Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The reason for that is they look to see what the most populated
>>>>>>>>>> cities are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its far from clear that that is the reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why else would they pick Sydney and Melbourne to emigrate to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because there are more of those who came from where
>>>>>>> they are coming from where they are migrating to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We saw that in my town. Largely due to where italian prisoners of war
>>>>>>> were sent during the war, quite a few of them chose to stay here once
>>>>>>> the war had ended and that’s why large numbers of italians chose to
>>>>>>> migrate here when they were told about how much better it was here
>>>>>>> than where they were coming from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We saw the same thing with sikhs too with a different reason for why
>>>>>>> the original sikhs chose to migrate to this town and the north coast
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why else would people emigrate to more expensive, polluted,
>>>>>>>> crime-ridden cities with worse weather such as Sydney and Melbourne,
>>>>>>>> instead of Perth, Adelaide or Brisbane?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See above. There is a reason so many vietnamese ended
>>>>>>> up in sydney and so many greeks ended up in melbourne.
>>>>>>> And so many pommy immigrants ended up in adelaide.
>>>>>>> And so many germans ended up in the barossa etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you were emigrating to Russia, would you emigrate to Moscow or
>>>>>>>>>> some smaller town that you've never heard of?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would inform myself of the various alternatives and choose
>>>>>>>>> the one that looked most likely to appeal to me the most.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not just with russia either, I'd do the same thing
>>>>>>>>> with the USA, China, Japan, Canada etc etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> They look at the population figures and choose the most
>>>>>>>>>> populated >> city
>>>>>>>>>> >> to emigrate to.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > More mindless bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's possible there is a view amongst prospective immigrants that
>>>>>> Sydney and Melbourne are more immigrant friendly, more multicultural
>>>>>> and more "world" cities.
>>>>>
>>>>> But doesn’t explain the other clusters of migrants outside
>>>>> those two or the poms infesting Adelaide and Perth either.
>>>>> Much more likely they actually choose to go to where
>>>>> there are already lots of their own, particularly given
>>>>> the much higher house prices in sydney and melburg.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s what has happened with some of the turks/kurds
>>>>> here, tried melburg, found that is impossible to buy a
>>>>> house in melburg, come back here where they grew up
>>>>> and one of them moved into their brand new house built
>>>>> for them a month or two ago and his brother has his own
>>>>> brand new house about half built now. Total price for
>>>>> house and land of about $500K. Not even possible in
>>>>> sydney or melburg anymore and hasn’t been for decades.
>
>>> Interesting that all the turks/kurds/italians/sikhs here have
>>> come from quite small towns where they came from. But
>>> that might well be because the prospects for those in those
>>> small towns is so fucked.
>
>> Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane are not small towns. They are large
>> metropolitan capital cities that have their own state governments.
>
>I was talking about the towns that those immigrants have come from.
>
>>>>>> The reality is that Sydney and Melbourne are actually shitholes,
>
>>>>> But have lots of job opportunitys. And
>>>>> even you went to sydney for that reason.
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but I didn't have to do that. I only did that because the place I
>>>> work for has trouble getting people and I wanted to offer my services.
>>>
>>> That’s a bit hard to believe given the situation in WA jobs wise.
>
>> Due to my health issues my parents have committed to financially support
>> me for the rest of my life, including providing a place to live, so I
>> don't need to take any particular job.
>
>That was a comment about "the place I work for has trouble getting people"
>
>> The place I work at, I have worked there before, and they have difficulty
>> getting people with my amount of experience, so I offered my services to
>> them.
>
>> It is a very low pressure job so it is suitable for me in my
>> circumstances. It is a unique situation and generally people do not need
>> to move from WA to Sydney in my field.
>
>> There is nothing wrong with the job stituation in WA.
>
>That’s what I was saying too.
>
>> If you do a normal job, such as doctor, accountant, teacher, tradesmen,
>> etc, you would have no reason to leave WA.
>
>Ditto.
>
>> Only in some unique fields such as media would someone have any pressing
>> need to be in Melbourne and Sydney instead of the smaller capital cities.
>
>>>> The reality is that the only people who like Sydney and Melbourne are
>>>> people who have grown up there because that is all they know.
>
>>> That’s bullshit too. Plenty prefer big citys because they
>>> offer a lot more than the other than big citys provide.
>
>> What does Sydney and Melbourne have that Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane
>> doesn't?
>
>A magnificent harbor in the case of sydney, huge numbers of poofters too.
>
>Most of the majors have their corporate HQs in Sydney or Melburg.
>
>Lots more industry in those two too. Lots more burbs
>of your own countrymen too except for poms.
>
>> I have lived and worked in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and I
>> can tell you that there is nothing you can get in Melbourne and Sydney
>> that you can't get in the smaller capital cities.
>
>That’s bullshit with the harbour and poofters.
>
>> I can understand someone from a non-captial city wanting to go to a
>> capital city, but generally there is no reason to be in Sydney and
>> Melbourne rather than the smaller capital cities.
>
>That’s bullshit with plenty of jobs.
>
>> In my opinion, Melbourne and Sydney are worse than the smaller capital
>> cities because of the social fragmenation caused by immigration and ethnic
>> segregation.
>
>Sure, but that’s what plenty of migrants want.
>
>> Syd and Melb are busier, have more traffic, more polluted, more expensive,
>> more densely populated, and people have to travel longer distances to go
>> to work.
>
>Yes, but plenty choose to live there anyway.
>
>> The general standard of the smaller capital cities is better too.
>
>That’s very arguable indeed.
>
>> Sydney and Melbourne just generally look shittier because they are so big
>> and there is less money to go around.
>
>More bullshit.
>
>>>>> So did a mate of mine from here, even tho I personally bought
>>>>> a very decent 3 bedroom house for $232K in 2016 which they
>>>>> paid for and which they have been renting out. Now worth well
>>>>> over $400K. The rental market here is a tight as a fucking drum
>>>>> even with a huger number of new houses being built every year.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are still in sydney because of the jobs and own a very
>>>>> decent unit there.
>>>>>
>>>>>> made worse by the constant influx of immigration, making them more
>>>>>> busy, > socially framented, and requiring longer distances for people
>>>>>> to travel to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> But with far more jobs to choose from.
>
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