On 20/10/2021 1:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land ownership in Australia is by way of 'freehold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lease' title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, no lease involved. You own the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called a "freehold lease", because it is a lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Crown land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Only applies to Crown Land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is owned Freehold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all residential and most business land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only restriction is on underground mineral and petroleum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights - the govt owns them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you are Jed Clampett................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Crown has "superior interest" to all land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else does the government have the ability, in right of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Crown, to compulsorily acquire land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same way some land which is a small subset of a much bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>> block of land can be compulsorily acquired by other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the govt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No one but the government (the Crown) can compulsoirly
>>>>>>>>>>>> acquire land.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. And the govt cant acquire anything it likes
>>>>>>>>>>> because Liz owns it all either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How else can the govt acquire your land?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it's yours then how can the govt take it off you, unless
>>>>>>>>>> the Crown has superior interest to all land?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By legislating that they can do that, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Queen continues to legally own all the lands of Britain,
>>>>>>>> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, 32 other members (around
>>>>>>>> two-thirds) of the Commonwealth, and Antarctica."
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely silly claim with Antarctica.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because some pom fool claims something...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The title we have when we own land is a "freehold" or "fee
>>>>>>>> simple" interest, which goes back to feudal times.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Freehold and Leasehold do seem in principle to be about long
>>>>>>>> term ownership, but in reality are both a form of feudal tenure
>>>>>>>> bestowed on us by the Crown. At any point the Crown can take
>>>>>>>> back your land if it is deemed a necessity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It isn't take back and they can take it not because Liz owns
>>>>>>> everything, but because that’s the law, fuckwit. Read the
>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Australia is a monarchy where ERII is the monarch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In a monarchy, the monarch owns all the land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't like that, move to a republic.
>>>>>
>>>>> No need, that stupid little german woman doesn’t own everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During the Second World War the government, acting on behalf of
>>>>>>>> the Crown, seized 11 million acres of British land. Compensation
>>>>>>>> was minimal, and in some cases not paid at all. No one
>>>>>>>> complained. It was wartime."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what our constitution says.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.highlandtitles.com/blog/this-land-aint-your-land-part-1/
>>>>>>>>
>
>>> Noted that you cant actually provide even a single cite that
>>> substantiates your pig ignorant claim that Liz owns everything
>>> here or in Antarctica either, just a claim by some fuckwit pom.
>
> Ditto.
>
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read it and weep.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need, I read the constitution which says nothing like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Queen owns your land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. In spades with republics.
>>>>>
>>>>>> We are not a republic, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plenty of those that fool pom claims are owned by Liz are now,
>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The interest you have in your land is a form of fuedal tenure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Queen could take back the land at any time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. She has no capacity to do that in this country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_51(xxxi)
>>>>>
>>>>>> That section of the constitution does not affect the fact the you
>>>>>> have a fee simple interest in your land, which is a feudal tenure
>>>>>> over land that the Crown has a superior interest in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your stupid pig ignorant claim was accurate, and it isn't,
>>>>> there would be no need for any compensation, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Why is it called 'fee simple' then?
>>>
>>> It isn't. Its actually called freehold.
>
>> "Freehold land (or fee simple) provides people with the most complete
>> form of ownership of that land, in perpetuity."
>
>> https://www.austrade.gov.au/land-tenure/land-tenure/freehold-land
>
> Just because some fool shiny bum claims something...
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehold_(law)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple

In NSW it is a fee simple interest. This is what it says on the
certificate of title:

"I certify that the person described in the First Schedule is the
registered proprietor on an estate in fee simple (or such other estate
or interest as set forth in that Schedule) in the land within described
subject to such exceptions, encumberances, interests and entries as
appear in the Second Schedule and to any additional entries in the Folio
of the Register."

https://propertyregistry.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Certificate-of-title-eg-768x432.png