Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> > Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> >> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> >>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> >>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> >>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> >>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Else wrote
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/nurse-who-allegedly-faked-covid-vaccines-charged/100602566>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true, then the teenager has a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of action
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> against the nurse, and her employer via vicarious
>>>>> liability, for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> assault. The police should also charge the nurse with
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> criminal assault.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Huh ???
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is because the teenager consented to have a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> vaccination,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> not to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have a needle stuck into her arm.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** ROTFL wot a hoot.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The teen contracted to get a vaccine injected, but only got
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> half the deal.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Contract not completed - one free vaccine jab required.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They are always free, fuckwit.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I dare say the nurse will be struck off the register, and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> never work as
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a nurse again.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Seen nurses doing a lot worse.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, deliberately killing people with lethal injections.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've heard they steal patients' pain-killers, just
>>>>> >>>>>>>> to shoot up with them (the pain killers that is).
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, that certainly happens. Not clear why this one faked the
>>>>> >>>>>>> vaccination tho.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> The woman has been charged with fraud,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Yes.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> but the definition of fraud is gaining by dishonesty.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> That’s just one type of fraud.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> That's the only thing fraud is.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> You are wrong, as always. Most obviously with what
>>>>> >>> that stupid cow did and pretending to be someone
>>>>> >>> else in usenet etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> It is not fraud to impersonate someone on usenet, if you don't gain
>>>>> >> anything of value by doing it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You are wrong, as always.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > And you always gain something by doing it
>>>>> > because otherwise you wouldn’t do it, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> The law only recognises value in things that could be converted to
>>>>> dollar value.
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> Personal gratification in doing something cannot be converted to
>>>>> dollar value.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn’t need to be to be fraud, as that stupid cow proves.
>>>>
>>>>> >> There are certain laws about impersonating a police officer etc,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In fact quite specific ones in that case.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> but that is not 'fraud'.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You are wrong, as always.
>>>>> > > And what that stupid cow did is fraud without
>>>>> > any personal reward for the stupid cow.
>>>>
>>>>> This is the definition of fraud in WA.
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong, as always.
>>
>>> Copied from the WA legislation website
>>
>> Which says nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>
>>>>> You might think that 1(d) applies because it is about causing a
>>>>> detriment, but the woman did not believe she was causing a detriment
>>>>> because she is an anti-vaxxer.
>>
>>>> But she obviously did cause detriment if she had not got caught,
>>>> fuckwit.
>>
>>> Not in her mind
>>
>> Her mind is completely irrelevant to what she actually did.
>>
>
> It is part of the common law of this country that a person's intention is
> part of the offence. The person has to have a 'guilty mind'.
>
>
>
>>> because she is an anti-vaxxer.
>>
>>>>> 409. Fraud
>>>>
>>>>> (1) Any person who, with intent to defraud, by deceit or any
>>>>> fraudulent means —
>>>>> (a) obtains property from any person; or
>>>>> (b) induces any person to deliver property to another person; or
>>>>> (c) gains a benefit, pecuniary or otherwise, for any person; or
>>
>>>> This one covers pretending to be someone else, fuckwit.
>>
>>> The benefit has to something of value.
>>
>> The legislation says nothing like that.
>>
>>> Personal gratification doesn't count.
>>
>> The legislation says nothing like that.
>>
>
> You don't get to decide what the legislation means. The courts do.
>
>
>
>>>>> (d) causes a detriment, pecuniary or otherwise,
>>
>>>> Pity about that. There you go, face down in the mud, as always.
>>
>>> There is no detriment in her mind
>>
>> Her mind is completely irrelevant to what she actually did.

> It is part of the common law of this country that a person's intention is
> part of the offence. The person has to have a 'guilty mind'.

She clearly does given that she faked the vaccination
and recorded someone else in that practice as having
done the vaccination.

>>> because she is an anti-vaxxer.
>>
>>>>> to anyperson; or
>>>>> (e) induces any person to do any act that the person is lawfully
>>>>> entitled to abstain from doing; or
>>
>>>> Also doesn’t say anything about dollar value.
>>
>>>>> (f) induces any person to abstain from doing any act that the person
>>>>> is lawfully entitled to do,
>>
>>>> Also doesn’t say anything about dollar value.
>>
>>> Doesn't have to say that. That is how the law works.
>>
>> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit.
>>
>>>>> is guilty of a crime
>>
>>>> So that stupid cow is guilty of criminal fraud, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> So what did she gain by doing it?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> That remains to be seen when she shows up in court.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> And some are curt and rude.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Some are indeed.