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Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 1 Hour 49 Minutes ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

Presumably, only clothing that is transparent to the infra-red wavelengths it saw. I remember in the 1960s/'70s, there were adverts for "X-ray specs" (or something like that) on the back of some things - comics, I think. I never sent

Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 3 Hours 22 Minutes ago by: MB

There was a lot of chatter about that some years ago but seems to have gone quiet now, either they have made it more difficult to remove or people have got bored of it.

Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Hours 29 Minutes ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

The sort of cameras used by (for example) aerial police do just use the infra-red part of the spectrum: bodies, and the wheels and engines of vehicles, show up "bright" as they are hot. Heat from the camera isn't really a problem - the

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Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Hours 14 Minutes ago by: Max Demian

I think there was a Sony camera with a night vision mode. If used in the daytime, it could see through some clothing. <g>

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Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Hours 49 Minutes ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

I'd have thought though that internal heat might have been a problem which is why I mentioned cooling it down to a very cold temperature. Even the most efficient gear gives off heat as it works. I cannot see the effect of current design

Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day ago by: John Williamson

There are a few types, but the ones that don't use an infra red illuminator use a photosensitive plate that can detect a very small number of photons per pixel, and amplify that signal to light up a photo emissive surface. For flying, t

Re: Radio reception in Cumbria (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 3 Hours ago by: williamwright

Shurely some mistake? Bill

Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 6 Hours ago by: steve

I think the best night vision methods use IR cells which can be converted to digital images and filtered and enhanced quite economically. Steve

Re: How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work? (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 6 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Image intensifier tubes

Re: Radio reception in Cumbria (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 6 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

That's very odd. I can't explain why you couldn't get any BBC national DAB reception, was this moving about on the car radio, or a portable radio where you were staying ? No. BBC Radios Jersey and Guernsey are the other two in DAB+ at p

How do night vision goggles and cameras actually work?

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Posted: 1 Day 11 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

I can obviously see that if you had an infra reed light you could get reasonable black and white pictures, but when you are, say flying a chopper at night like you see those Helicopter emergency fly on the wall shows do, then you only ha

Radio reception in Cumbria

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Posted: 1 Day 12 Hours ago by: Scott

I visited Carlisle during the week. I found there was no BBC national DAB reception, which seems odd as I see it is broadcast from Sandale, not that far away. BBC Radio Cumbria is available at 64 kbps. I believe this is DAB+. Is this th

Re: Happy Birthday BBC (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

..... The British Broadcasting Century podcast @BBCentury · 11m How do we know this? It's ALL thanks to David Prosser, the academic behind this paper: https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/193478467/Prosser_Marco

Happy Birthday BBC

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Posted: 4 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

https://twitter.com/BBCentury/status/1526930710493265920 The British Broadcasting Century podcast @BBCentury Today, May 18th, is another one of those HAPPY CENTENARY BBC days! The idea for the BBC is 100 years old today. Thanks to this ch

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Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 10 Hours ago by: MB

These were taken with a 500MM lens and moving a bit faster than a bird. :-) https://www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/albums/72157706853944245/with/40203465683/

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 12 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t5rqn5$fnk$1@dont-email.me... Yes I did try that: stop down as far as I dare without prejudicing shutter speed (puffins' wings move very quickly) and hope that the birds remain reasonably in foc

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

I usually find auto-focus makes following a moving object more difficult because it is quite likely to focus elsewhere brifly. If it is a bright sunny day then I rely on depth of field on manual focus.

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days ago by: NY

"Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve@easynn.com> wrote in message news:uev18hdf35qj60mnm5ge6fnsfi4lsd9uqm@4ax.com... I'll bet they'll still look as ridiculous as the wart-like cheek microphones or those "hidden" (not!) in the hairline of singer

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days ago by: NY

"Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve@easynn.com> wrote in message news:isr18hl5p4vh6cjuegtibecg0vrje14up9@4ax.com... It might have been for small-ball sports like golf where the golfer hits his stroke, and the cameraman (who was probably a sear

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 7 Hours ago by: Stephen Wolstenholme

A few more years and microphone implants will be used. I think the top lip would be the best position (except for boxers). Steve

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 8 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Yes but on TV, you cannot have everyone using headsets can you. I remember having what was described as a gun mike. That was fine as long as the person who was aiming it was paying attention and both parties were near each other, but on

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 8 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Maybe they need to make them sit in the hair then. grin. Brian

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 8 Hours ago by: Stephen Wolstenholme

Sounds like something used for space exploration or orbital spy satellites! Steve

Re: Gamma (was: Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens) (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 13 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

When I got my first digital stills camera (a Nikon Coolpix) way back in year 2000, I wondered about this too, and as I was working with broadcast television cameras at the time, I was able to photograph the various test charts we used fo

Re: Gamma (was: Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens) (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days ago by: NY

"Paul Ratcliffe" <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> wrote in message news:slrnt80143.2jg.abuse@news.pr.network... So if (in an alternative universe!) TV had been developed when LCD screens were the normal display technology, TV would have

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 1 Hour ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

EMI-2001s certainly did. IIRC, half the light went to the luminance tube and the rest was split between the other three. They needed a lot of light therefore, which generated a lot of heat.

Re: Gamma (was: Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 1 Hour ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

The latter.

Re: Gamma (was: Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 1 Hour ago by: The Other John

Yes! :)

Re: Gamma (was: Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens) (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 3 Hours ago by: NY

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:R$cU4NThT8fiFwr0@a.a... I imagine that gamma is "hardcoded" into the design of any camera, signal processing, broadcasting, reception, display chain so that it cannot be c

Gamma (was: Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens) (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 5 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] [] I. e. the phosphor. Do modern LC displays, and other technologies - Plasma? OLED? - have a similar gamma curve to CRT phosphors? If not, presumably modern sets have an un-phosphor-gamma followed by gamma correction for whatever th

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Yep. Just like drone shots, and CGI or electronic effects, and sex scenes, and actors swearing all the time, just because they can, regardless of whether any of it clarifies anything about the plot. Rod.

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] TOTP I think actually made that a feature to be expected (not by me, but you know how fashions are!) of that sort of prog. - to the extent that I vaguely remember reading (here?) that cameras (or maybe just their tubes) nearing the

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Perhaps there is, but I'm not sure what use it would be here. What's required from a television camera to feed into the encoder (PAL, NTSC, SECAM or whatever) is gamma corrected RGB signals. The luminance signal is derived by mixing thes

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Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] Ah, that sounds like "valve sound" as preferred by some audio enthusiasts: basically soft rather than hard clipping! Interesting point! Of course film (except three-strip technicolour, sorry -color)! had a different mechanism. But

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 7 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] [] Interesting; I'd assumed keeping a tube with stripes synced would be a right pain. Maybe they used some combination of some sort of syncing castellations outside picture area, and gating so that they threw away more of the transi

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 7 Hours ago by: John Williamson

It is even more impressive when you are holding one.

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 9 Hours ago by: charles

far worse is the speaker turing their head away from straight ahead. That's why I prefer head set mics.

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 9 Hours ago by: NY

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:fctu7htqqmphene22lqvefdig28255g57g@4ax.com... There are two reasons why a zoom lens lets through less light: firstly because there is more glass to absorb light and s

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 10 Hours ago by: MB

Biggest problem that I notice is muffled sound because the microphone is under a coat, fleece etc.

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 10 Hours ago by: NY

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:4sru7hhotvh1euhh1utpoe8pq5b7mkeidq@4ax.com... Isn't there a mathematical transformation that can be applied (especially nowadays where everything is digital) which un

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 10 Hours ago by: NY

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:fctu7htqqmphene22lqvefdig28255g57g@4ax.com... I imagine when zoom lenses first became available it was a real novelty to be able to magnify one part of the picture wi

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 10 Hours ago by: NY

"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:t5nqjb$doe$1@dont-email.me... I imagine that there are several failure modes: - one of the three channels maxes-out, giving one of red+green=yellow, red+blue=magenta,

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 10 Hours ago by: NY

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Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 11 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Prime lenses have less glassware than zooms, therefore not so much light loss. The practice of smoothly varying the focal length during a shot seems to be one of those things that nobody needed to do, until they could. Classic movies ar

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 11 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

The prism blocks were coated with dichroic interference filters, which would reflect light of one range of wavelengths and pass through the remainder, thus in theory wasting none, as all the light (or nearly all) that entered the lens wo

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 11 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Hmm, well sounds all a bit seat of the pants. I do wish these days when recording dialogue they would try to at least make sure we can hear the actors over the background. So are there any cheap tie clip mikes that can be used wirelessl

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 11 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Interesting. No this did have at least two tubes in it as I took the side off once, but it was crammed full of pcb! I guess the different levels of the colours could easily max out part of the tube or tubes then as it ran out of dynamic

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 12 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Yes, I certainly think there was more than one tube in mine. However it was certainly robust, but was just a camera, not a camcorder, and had this thick rubberised cable on the handle or on the camera if you removed the handle to put it

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 12 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

But yellow, seems to suggest that it was two colours that were running into trouble, unless they used some type of complimentary colour system of unknown sort. Still it was normal fine indoors as long as you adjusted the tint correctly

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 12 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

I think you are right about more than one tube. It was quite power hungry, but was of course within a year or two superseded by a better and smaller and cheaper model. grr. Brian

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 14 Hours ago by: John Williamson

My first camcorder, a Philips branded Panasonic NV-M1, had a striped filter on the single Newvicon tube. The filters were, IIRC cyan and magenta, with a clear stripe between them to give a mono signal, BICBW, to make the tube more s

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 23 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

Yes, I had breakthrough from a police car during a live stsge show. The fairy who had been fitted with the radio mic, carried on regardless but the producer nearly had a fit! I've just remembered a bit more about the Eddystone S890: B

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 23 Hours ago by: NY

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:NubDMoJ9mrfiFw5n@a.a... I remember looking into video cameras when I worked in the school's audio visual room as my prefect duty in the sixth form (a really cushy number,

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 23 Hours ago by: NY

"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:1prws0m.117rqbt1qstwsgN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid... I remember one of my early Blue Peter Annuals from the late 60s or early 70s had a chapter on "how telev

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days ago by: NY

"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:t5lue6$8gh$1@dont-email.me... I think by the late 70s and early 80s, many consumer cameras had changed from vidicons to plumbicons/saticons, though almost invariably a

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

If it wasn't a CCD, it was probably three (for amateur use) tubes; colour haloing in bright conditions was, I think, caused by one of the tubes hitting its limit (the video equivalent of clipping in audio - saturation?) before the other

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 2 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

[...] The radio link was actually pretty good, it used an Eddystone FM tuner which the firm had specially modified to cover the radio mic frequencies. (Model S890 or S890/1). The sound quality limitation was in the microphones they coul

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 2 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

That sounds like the one that was specially made for the Coronation in 1953; it was right at the back of Westminster Abbey, up against the roof, the monitor was removed and the cameraman had to kneel down beside it. I have a feeling th

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 4 Hours ago by: The Other John

We had lead weights hung on the panning handle to balance the zoom. The focus and deflection coils were all one cylindrical assembly and slid along on rails without causing microphony. I think the camera had to be refocussed when ch

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 5 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Really. I remember I had a colour camera made by Hitachi. It had a serious weird effect in very bright sun. IE on changes in contrast edges even when in focus, you tended to get a kind of yellow fringe around things. In kind of normal du

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 5 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

The Pye image orthicon cameras had motorised turrets, so the operator only had to push a little switch instead of turning a mechanical handle. When we fitted a zoom to one of those we had to remember to disable it with an internal switch

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 6 Hours ago by: NY

"The Other John" <nomail@home.org> wrote in message news:t5lhiv$m00$1@dont-email.me... I saw a very long focal-length zoom (not sure what its wide-angle setting was, but it was designed for greater magnification than normal at the telep

Re: Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 8 Hours ago by: The Other John

When I worked in studios on b/w cameras, late '50s early '60s zooms were rarely used in studios and occasionally on OBs. The turret didn't have to be removed, the zoom fitted in place of one of the fixed lenses but with additional ha

Television cameras: The changeover from lens turret to zoom lens

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Posted: 9 Days 11 Hours ago by: NY

When roughly did television studios change from TV cameras with a turret of fixed-focal-length lenses to those with zoom lenses? Was the change initially partial, with a studio having mainly turret cameras but with a zoom camera for thos

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 5 Hours ago by: Max Demian

It'll give the Daleks a sporting chance.

Re: Do the BBC have really problems with "line" or is it with the (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 2 Hours ago by: williamwright

Yes. Bill

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 6 Hours ago by: steve

I'm in a wheelchair but I don't want to share the technology used to produce such an advanced transport system. It's a very advanced model. I've found how to control forwards and backwards in space but I'm still looking for the time trav

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 13 Hours ago by: Robin

easy: regenerates as Davros (revealing the Doctor created the Daleks in a period of madness induced by eating meat...)

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 22 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Wheelchair user? "Roll for yer life..."

Netherbutton

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

A talk online about Netherbutton, don't know if he will cover its postwar history. https://twitter.com/Ness_Battery/status/1523778530110107648

Re: Do the BBC have really problems with "line" or is it with the (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

I've had direct experience of this relatively recently. The Medilink P&R only runs M-F and only between about 7 and 7 (give or take). Thankfully at the weekends I was able to get a space on site(s), and surprisingly it was free (as a re

Re: Do the BBC have really problems with "line" or is it with the (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Seems like he needs a dose of real-world experience then.

Re: Do the BBC have really problems with "line" or is it with the (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

I wonder what reception you'd get if you tried that at our gaff. As it is, I estimate demand for parking probably exceeds capacity by at least 10:1

Re: Do the BBC have really problems with "line" or is it with the (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Oh, I never realised reading all your ramblings all this time that there were twins there.

Re: Do the BBC have really problems with "line" or is it with the (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Brizzle. Haven't been in to the centre of Nottingham for the best part of 3 years now, but if I did then the bus service from where I'd go from is still very good compared to here.

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 4 Hours ago by: Max Demian

He's an alien, so he could be anything. In Hitch-hiker's Guide Zaphod Beeblebrox has two heads. There's a two-headed girl in America; I wonder whether she/they can act? Hey, that's an idea! As well as being a different sex, people coul

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Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 14 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

Indeed but to add insult to injury we have to pay for this woke drivel. "At its heart, wokeness is divisive, exclusionary and hateful. It basically gives mean people a shield to be mean and cruel, armoured in false virtue." I believe t

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 15 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Whether it becomes apparent that they might abandon the BBC licence after 2027 or it doesn't, I reckon it's only a matter of time before I abandon it myself. Since January 1st this year, absolutely all, that is 100%, of my TV viewing has

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 18 Hours ago by: williamwright

The BBC is a lost cause as far as I'm concerned. I just don't watch even promising-sounding stuff because I fear I'll be annoyed by wokery. I watch telly to relax, not to be aggravated. Bill

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days ago by: Roderick Stewart

I stopped watching from one episode after the sex change. In case no-one has told you aready, the new one is black, and I'm sure I read somewhere that he's gay as well. What on earth will they choose for the next one? <sarcasm>Nice to s

Re: Use of clapperboard in modern (eg 2022) interviews that are made on video (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Is it not just to isolate the start/end of a piece fairly accurately for looking at before the digital editing is done? Brian

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

That seems a little steep. What does the audio version cost. grin. You know I do miss the old days when itv regions did their own thing, and one could build vhf aerials out of scrap bits and get multiple itv regions fairly easily. Now w

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Posted: 14 Days 5 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Or just from the top of an office block. Terminal velocity is terminal velocity is 120ish mph ? (An airliner hitting the side of a mountain at 500 mph is a different kettle of fish of course)

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Posted: 14 Days 13 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Hmm, difficult to know whether to use order by subject, by date or indeed give up! Brian

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Posted: 15 Days 14 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

It's a shame we can't make a device that bestows those properties upon its wearers. I think they'd sell quite well, don't you? Rod.

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Posted: 16 Days ago by: MB

From what I understood, the main concern was the long life which have some sort of isotope inside. You only get one of those if you are relatively young, older people get the ones with a replaceable battery.

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Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: Liz Tuddenham

Cremation, if done properly, generates temperatures at which organic matter completely decomposes, at least 400 C. The thermal mass of a pacemaker is very small, so it would quickly attain that temperature right through. and everything

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: MB

They should not, as I wrote, the spec contains (or at least did when I was told and no reason to believe it has changed). Withstand cremation Withstand Magnum Special at point-blank range Withstand hitting concrete in a fall from the h

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Posted: 16 Days 8 Hours ago by: williamwright

That didn't happen when my wife died. I asked and they said there was no need to do anything. Nor did the pacemaker attempt to restart her heart after the moment of death. Bill

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Posted: 16 Days 9 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t52sca$f4p$1@dont-email.me... I gather that undertakers routinely check for and remove pacemakers, a) because they can explode during cremation, and b) hospitals often want them back.

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Posted: 16 Days 10 Hours ago by: MB

Years ago I spoke to a hospital technician who use to connect up pacemakers (some surgeons were hopeless at using a screwdrive and saw him grimace as the surgeon struggled so told him to get scrubbed and do the job). He said the pacem

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Posted: 16 Days 12 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

From any pacemaker battery !

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Posted: 16 Days 12 Hours ago by: NY

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:jdk281Fmm9kU1@mid.individual.net... And hopefully the furnace won't explode.

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Posted: 16 Days 13 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Hopefully, if Ric is cremated, they'll set the furnace to 11 ?

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Posted: 16 Days 13 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

<https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap>

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Posted: 16 Days 13 Hours ago by: SimonM

Sorry - forgot to say the DT obit is behind their paywall. Others are probably available (haven't looked). S.

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Posted: 16 Days 13 Hours ago by: SimonM

Very sadly, Ric Parnell, drummer of Spinal Tap died (for real) this month. The Daily Telegraph has an obituary here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/05/03/ric-parnell-exploding-drummer-mock-rock-legends-spinal-tap/ Parnell

Re: The Early Years of Television and the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days ago by: williamwright

Eighty-five quid? I think I'll wait for the movie. Bill

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Posted: 18 Days 11 Hours ago by: MB

This book has been published by EUP but rather expensive! https://edinburghuniversitypress.com/book-the-early-years-of-television-and-the-bbc.html

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Posted: 19 Days 14 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

As I said, very few new threads apparent here. Lots of old followups though. I may well refresh the lot when I get time. Brian

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Posted: 20 Days 4 Hours ago by: John Williamson

Brian Gaff fairly regularly reports this problem in various groups, which I suspect is something to do with him using Outlook Express and a screen reader to access usenet, rather than usenet being broken or not being used.

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Posted: 20 Days 5 Hours ago by: Rink

429 messages in january 2022 in uk.tech.broadcast 225 messages in february 2022 in uk.tech.broadcast 280 messages in march 2022 in uk.tech.broadcast 440 messages in april 2022 in uk.tech.broadcast Rink

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Posted: 20 Days 12 Hours ago by: SimonM

Heck, they were obsolete by around 1988! Since the licence fee is probably going (yeah, right), it must be time for a BBC Bristol eBay account, Shirley? Having seen on YouTube the junk people cherish, someone will pay silly money for

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Posted: 21 Days 21 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

It pains me to tell you that we still have at least one of those bloody things on the shelves in our 'old junk' store. God alone knows why.

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Posted: 22 Days 9 Hours ago by: Mike

I have vague memories of Trevor McDonald commenting on this event at the time, and also sayng that "radiation would now be known as 'magic moonbeams'" ... It might have been on Spitting Image though ;) That's right up there with the S

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Posted: 22 Days 10 Hours ago by: Max Demian

Well if you're willing to add extra syllables to the name, you can pretty much make anything rude.

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Posted: 22 Days 12 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Yes I know, but maybe for email it should be Outlook for this one account. Keep using the other for newsgroups and accounts that do not use these new fangled security wotsits. I can forsee a lot of my blind friends struggling as they wi

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Posted: 22 Days 14 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

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Posted: 22 Days 21 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

A late colleague at work was wondering which small Cumbrian village they would use next: the atomic establishment was originally called Windscale, but eventually that got such a bad reputation (faked X-ray records, radioactive leaks int

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Posted: 22 Days 21 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

That's _why_ they show the number with spaces on the card, or the account number on the bill: it's easier for humans to digest it in small chunks. The most irritating are the ones that don't accept spaces - but only tell you that after

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Posted: 22 Days 21 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

Exactly; that's usually the reason I'm 'phoning them. In most cases, if I _can_ do whatever I want online, I do, because it's quicker.

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Posted: 22 Days 21 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

I know it spoils most humour when it has to be explained, but I haven't worked that one out yet ... Jennifer Taylor? JT? Something about having nit in the middle?

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Posted: 23 Days 1 Hour ago by: Roderick Stewart

My ex's previous car had a registration number of which the three letter portion was "OMG". The grandsprogs thought it was funny too. Rod.

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Posted: 23 Days 1 Hour ago by: Roderick Stewart

Neat! I wonder if John Ward on youtube knows about this. He usualy introduces himself as "JW" but it could just as well be J-Omega. Perhaps he'd rather that it was. I wonder how many budding electrical engineers in their teenage years p

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Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mike

A triumph of advertising and rebranding then :) ... Everyone will still remember how bad Hermes are, even though they are now known as Evri ...

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Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: williamwright

Yes, it's when the parish of Masham wasn't in the diocese of the local bishop, or something like that anyway... Bill

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Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

I know what you mean about muscle memory but 1) thunderird doesn't make hotkeys editable 2) even if it did (or people claim there are ways and means) I would avoid doing it, since you'd then be in a limbo-land running one program with

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Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: williamwright

It's just not very helpful is it? Bill

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

I'm pleased to say the tracking problem has been resolved and I how have proof that the documents have been delivered to the DVLC.

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Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: MB

It will be because they come from Masham I think and Masham is a Peculiar.

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Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: MB

Those carrier will have their own distribution systems so the Post Town is irrelevant to them if they have the Postcode.

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Posted: 23 Days 5 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Yes, see my comment about normal clients. I wonder if one can make it use keys that Microsoft programs use as muscle memory can be a hard thing to overcome. Brian

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Posted: 23 Days 6 Hours ago by: NY

"tony sayer" <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote in message news:YD+Fu4No5+aiFwgg@bancom.co.uk... It is indeed. And for some reason, Theakstons (no E) spell it "peculier".

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Posted: 23 Days 6 Hours ago by: NY

"tony sayer" <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote in message news:STdHasNl2+aiFwBa@bancom.co.uk... I had to think about that one for a second. Whoops! Her parents didn't think that one through.

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Posted: 23 Days 6 Hours ago by: steve

I wanted to get a new driving license when I reached 70 so I sent them my license and all my previous addresses. I'm now 73 and still waiting for them to process my details. The last time I got through on the phone I spoke to someone who

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Posted: 23 Days 7 Hours ago by: tony sayer

In article <jd0vp1F2uj1U1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> scribeth thus Is that where the odd Theakstones ale got its name from?...

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Posted: 23 Days 7 Hours ago by: tony sayer

In article <4cum6hd7vkbtbtdtvm3dvi47c72babpiqd@4ax.com>, Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> scribeth thus Former girlfriend , Heather Ann Gordon (HAG) Another one, Jenny Taylor ...

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Posted: 23 Days 7 Hours ago by: charles

Yes, to Post Codes _ I was referring to Post Towns,

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Posted: 23 Days 7 Hours ago by: NY

"Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:jd2480F9klsU1@mid.individual.net... Yes, but not his mid-day meal - he'd been kept waiting. Are we thinking along the same lines?

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Posted: 23 Days 8 Hours ago by: MB

But those all seem to use the Royal Mail postcodes though Hermes has a new name now which I cannot remember.

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Posted: 23 Days 8 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Had he had his breakfast?

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Posted: 23 Days 8 Hours ago by: Mike

"... because my problem *is* your website, the badly designed piece of crap that it is ..." :)

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Posted: 23 Days 9 Hours ago by: NY

"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:1pr65vw.1x6bsfmb1o9o0N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid... Don't you just love bureaucracy. I've never had to change my name, but my wife had various problems with

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Posted: 23 Days 10 Hours ago by: charles

I was thinkng of Amazon, Hermes, DPD, etc who do their own deliveries. Tht's why I wrote "deliveries started being made by firms other than Royal Mail"

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Posted: 23 Days 10 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

I've just recently formally changed my name (to reflect my gender identity) and have run into all sorts of problems: One company is refusing to accept my Deed Poll because it is not endorsed (endorsement is a purely personal thing for

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Posted: 23 Days 12 Hours ago by: NY

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:4cum6hd7vkbtbtdtvm3dvi47c72babpiqd@4ax.com... The head of department where I worked in my first job, in an electronics department, was (John) William Taylor (known as

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Posted: 23 Days 12 Hours ago by: NY

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:3x8979c1JxaiFwW4@a.a... My mum and dad had not yet become interested in family history when I was born so I have a conventional middle name which could be a forename. But

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Posted: 23 Days 12 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Thunderbird claims to support three screen readers JAWS, NVDA and Windows Eyes <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-accessibility-features>

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Posted: 23 Days 12 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t4f1i3$9c5$3@dont-email.me... Yes I would say that the first rule of writing software that accepts postcodes or credit card numbers is that it must immediately remove spaces (*) and the process

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Posted: 23 Days 12 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Why? You can change the views in many ways, so having fiddled with views, I still don't see much genuinely new. So what news reader would you use, as soon I'll have to change, since there is no way OE or certain derivatives will work on

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Posted: 23 Days 14 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

For one of my daughters, we just gave her a name that we liked to call her by, and two middle names which were the first names of her two grandmothers. If you want a tradition for such things, that seems a reasonable one because it pres

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Posted: 23 Days 18 Hours ago by: williamwright

If it's ecclesiastical it's called a peculiar. Bill

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

I did come across a post quoting some quite complex rules for naming children, when you had lots of them - first son after father and first daughter after mother IIRR, but going on to quite convoluted - uncles, grandfathers, and so on.

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: Sn!pe

[...] [...] I think it's alphabetically by street name: Our road is named [name A] [unique name 1] [name B] and there is another named [name A] [unique name 2] [name B] which have alphabetically consecutive postcodes.

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

If you read a few posts back, you'll see that is what we were talking about - "enclaves". I think it was the 1974 revision that did the most rationalising (unfortunately also done some things that were unpopular and reverted in the nex

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

Fortunately, I think the postcode system is designed such that there are no ambiguous cases - i. e. if there's an AB1 23XY, there isn't an AB12 3XY. (My SatNav - an XGODY - _does_ insist on the space, which pleases me.) Indeed (or th

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: MB

For some reason many systems did not seem to recognise our postcode at work. I had problem with my car when driving back to after lunch so rang the AA, giving the work postcode. They could not find it so I eventually gave the old comp

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: MB

It can be a nice family tradition my first forename comes from my father and Great Grandfather. There were people in my family in the 19th Century who used my Great Great Grandmother's surname as a second forename because her first son

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] I discovered not long after I moved in here (2007) that this home (number 5) had somehow been omitted from the postcode database. Numbers (for example) 4, 6, and 7, were in, just mine wasn't - although the home had been here since 2

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

I have always used my second forename, as my father did. I had a big argument at work about it because their computer system could not handle it. I got fed up of mail addressed to me using my first forename so I told I would consider

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

Don't most non-Royal Mail postal service stick to Royal Mail's conventions because they mostly use Royal Mail for the actual delivery.

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

Many counties had parts separate from the rest of the county, I think they were removed in one of the revisions of counties

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

Lots of UK website will not accept a Postcode with a space between the two two halves of the postcode and I think some insist on a space. Almost as bad as the ones that do not accept credit card numbers entered as groups of number (as

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

I just wrote that the whole of the Western Isles used to have Paisley postcodes, I think the Northern Isles similarly had a Wick postcode for the same obvious reason.

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

Irrelevant, it is a postal address used for sorting the mail. Until a few years ago many of the Scottish islands had a postcode for near Glasgow. My postcode is Perth even though about a hundred miles away and few connections to the ar

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: NY

"The Other John" <nomail@home.org> wrote in message news:t4eoil$vsm$1@dont-email.me... Very, but I suppose it ties in with the idea that every American must have three names/initials, either as John E Hoover or J Edgar Hoover. My dad i

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: The Other John

East Grinstead, Crawley and Horsham in Sussex have RH (Redhill Surrey) codes.

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: The Other John

What I find strange is people who use their 2nd name but keep their first initial in front of it, like J Edgar Hoover and F Scott Fitzgerald. Weird.

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: Tweed

Not quite. Formal local government counties were created by the Victorians, but the geographical counties went back much further. There are maps here https://maps.nls.uk/counties/berwickshire.html

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: williamwright

Lots of places in Lincolnshire have DN (Doncaster Yorkshire) postcodes. Bill

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: charles

But while the town has been called that for many centuries, the county was a Victorian creation. Perhaps they hoped that the town would be returned to Scotland,

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Posted: 24 Days 3 Hours ago by: NY

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:v86rYwLsipaiFw1Q@a.a... She hadn't yet paid for it. But the manager retrieved her basket, kept it behind the counter and sent one of his "lads" to find mum in the next doo

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Posted: 24 Days 3 Hours ago by: NY

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:RtR0sCNBwpaiFwyA@a.a... I downloaded the complete postcode / OS grid reference / lat-long database a while ago to check what grid reference was associated with our postcode

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Posted: 24 Days 4 Hours ago by: charles

Once deliveries started being made by firms other than Royal Mail, post towns became a connfusion.

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Posted: 24 Days 4 Hours ago by: Tweed

Try Berwickshire and Berwick upon Tweed. The county and its natural county town are in different countries. https://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/18814343.dave-berry-column-time-bring-berwick-back-berwickshire/

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Posted: 24 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"Scott" <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:nr4l6hh1beg08o9s50vkimpjh3kf869kpu@4ax.com... Yes, I'm sure for acronyms and initialisms she'd have insisted on U.S.A and U.K. Except that since the country is the last thing

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Posted: 24 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:VsVlsPKRHpaiFwSh@a.a... I am now cautious about using my postal town - or at least if it present, I double check that my village name is also included somewhere, because th

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Posted: 24 Days 6 Hours ago by: Scott

Indeed. IIRC the original postcode areas were based on a planned 120 mechanised letter offices. Plainly this argument did not persuade many Harris residents.

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] I often wondered at the origin of the final two letters. The number before the space tended to be areas, and further out towns and villages, spiralling out from the centre of the place shown by the first letter(s) (usually staring at

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] I forgot to say, not _always_ neighbouring: I think there's a bit of - or near - the City of London that is actually part of Cambridgeshire. (One street, or something like that. I think for ecclesiastical reasons.) Accessible. []

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] I still do that (usually a single space if typing - which I nearly always am; I write very little these days). Yes - and after the house number ("572, Yarm Road,") I still do after Mr. and Mrs. (Not sure if I do for Ms - maybe my mind

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Don't think I've ever been fussy enough to put ".," or ".." on an envelope, it just looks wrong When it came to closing my parent's gas account, the supplier got shirty when I sent a death certificate for Mr J Burns yet the names they

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: charles

and that was because the mail (generaly) came by Glsagow airport which is just outside Paisley. Post Codes were GPO routing instructions

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: BrightsideS9

[snip] The latest changes are bringing back the name of the historic county of WESTMORLAND. https://www.westmorlandandfurness.gov.uk/

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: Scott

Would it not be a full stop after every letter, as in U.S.A. Your teacher must have been less fussy than mine!

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

Worse are the ones using US software that insist on the address containing a "city". (I've even seem Americans objecting to that.)

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Posted: 24 Days 7 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] (-: I refuse to include the name of the nearby large town in my address, though sometimes give in when using websites that insist on doing so. I accepted the principle of the "post town" when that was the case, but that necessity w

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Posted: 24 Days 8 Hours ago by: NY

"Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:jcve2dFo62pU1@mid.individual.net... Doesn't stop people using them unofficially... The subject of counties in postal addresses brings back memories of lessons at primary school

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Posted: 24 Days 8 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Counties are no longer a part of a postal address (someone tell various ecommerce websites)

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Posted: 24 Days 11 Hours ago by: Scott

Will they not be trading names rather than registered company names?

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Posted: 24 Days 11 Hours ago by: Scott

I believe Isle of Harris used to have Paisley (PA) postcodes until they were changed to HS following discontent amongst residents.

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Posted: 24 Days 11 Hours ago by: NY

"BrightsideS9" <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:camk6hlhuuc8n16vne5nth0g56c3htsth9@4ax.com... Most famously (at one time) the offices of the Yorkshire-focussed magazine The Dalesman, which also had "Clapham

Re: Inside the secret Gloucestershire bunker owned by the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 11 Hours ago by: BrightsideS9

Parts of North Yorkshire have a LA post code - LANCASTER.

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Posted: 24 Days 11 Hours ago by: Scott

Here I get mail for 'Glasgow, Lanarkshire' even though Glasgow has not been in Lanarkshire since 1895 or something.

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Posted: 24 Days 13 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

I know you have your reasons for using OutlookExpress, but I think that's responsible for the issues you see from time to time.

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Posted: 24 Days 13 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

Well most of them then have to be on threads with whiskers, as I see no new ones. Brian

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Posted: 24 Days 14 Hours ago by: MB

Postal addresses are just that, for sorting and distribution of post. They are no indication of administrative areas, particularly obvious with postcodes which can be a real nuisance with companies which do not pay for proper software

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Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

It bloody well hasn't. I continually get mail with Avon as part of the address even though it's been defunct for about 25 years.

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Posted: 25 Days 4 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

There is an option to use the I-dont-care list as an adblock element hiding filter, then it can only hide popups, never answer them ...

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Posted: 25 Days 4 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

At the time I installed it, fairly sure that's all it did. Didn't know it had altered over time to do that. I don't expect it to delete cookies, really.

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Posted: 25 Days 5 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] (I use such an old Firefox that it actually says it needs a later one! But in Chrome:) "In most cases, it just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it's needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept t

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Posted: 25 Days 8 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Probably it is a default now, wasn't at the time I configured it It's a setting in firefox, which used to be exposed in the settings GUI, now you have to enter the "here be dragons" section to alter it network.cookie.lifetimepolicy=2

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Posted: 25 Days 9 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

(See below.) I think that's a setting in most browsers. That sounds like an add-on; sounds potentially useful (though I think I'd find it tedious if it did it to _all_ cookies; I'm happy with _some_ e. g. settings being kept between se

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Posted: 25 Days 13 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

I see no particular drop-off in most groups I read. There were 13 messages here in the 24 hours prior to your "test"

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Posted: 25 Days 13 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

I think everyone must have changed to gardening as they most certainly are not using Usenet for the last couple of months. Brian

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Posted: 25 Days 14 Hours ago by: Tweed

I’ve got an adblocker on my iOS devices, and like I said, I don’t see the adverts, so I don’t really care what the cookies are getting up to.

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Posted: 25 Days 14 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

On a desktop/laptop, I "arm" my browser to reject 3rd party cookies convert all cookies to session-only, hide cookie warning dialogs, unanswered regularly close the browser to flush cookies hide adverts But where they annoy the hell out

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Posted: 25 Days 15 Hours ago by: Tweed

I’m not sure why there’s all the angst about cookies. I don’t particularly care if I’m tracked since I always run an ad blocker. I almost never see adverts, targeted or not.

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Posted: 25 Days 23 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

No, I don't believe so ... If I disable all my cookie protection add-ons, and visit a "cookie heavy" site, and then see what cookies I have for that site, it's only 3 or 4 which they probably consider as "required" for site functional

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Posted: 25 Days 23 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

If you want to do that sort if trick, some adblockers have an "element hiding" mod, you can pick with a wand to hide the translucent overlay.

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Posted: 26 Days ago by: Liz Tuddenham

If you are really quick and Select-All followed by Copy, you can grab the page contents before the overlay appears. Then you can Paste it into another program and read it.

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: Richard Tobin

Or if you really need to see it, open it in a private browsing window and accept all the cookies.

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Posted: 26 Days 5 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

So those are the ones where I tend to pause and think "do I really need to read this?" and click BACK instead.

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Posted: 26 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

But many do not.

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Posted: 26 Days 7 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Many sites have a "reject all" button for permissions, but lookout they sometimes have a separate "object all" button for so-called legitimate interest from 3rd parties, and of course they use dark patterns (different colour "allow al

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Posted: 26 Days 8 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] I haven't tried with that particular website, but I often find turning javascript off then hitting reload gets rid of the forced agreement overlay, but the page still loads. Presumably this (the page still loading) will become rarer

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Posted: 26 Days 9 Hours ago by: MB

There was a comment here (I think) recently about having to register on the BBC website. I see they now have some pages that have a big banner saying that "We've updated our Privacy and Cookies Policy" though this is not appearing every

Re: Inside the secret Gloucestershire bunker owned by the BBC (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days ago by: NY

"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:1pqxcl0.1dipeiqp5bl1sN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid... Yes I think of a county as primarily a geographical area within a line drawn on a map. How it is administ

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Posted: 28 Days 2 Hours ago by: MB

I think there are a few vestiges but police and fire in Scotland were "nationalised" (easier for the SNP to control that way!). As far as I am concerned, I have never recognised Greater Manchester and still call everything 'Lancashire'

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Posted: 28 Days 2 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

...but that's administrative. If a county is shown in their address, it should be 'Somerset".

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Posted: 28 Days 3 Hours ago by: Woody

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Posted: 28 Days 5 Hours ago by: Liz Tuddenham

Avon was never a county, just an administrative district. There was a lot of bad feeling when it was enforced upon us and we were told we had to call it a county. It has now been quietly forgotten about.

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Posted: 28 Days 8 Hours ago by: James French

I think you are almost right. My recollection is that we were doing a nighttime show and there was some kind of performance on the front lawn. In order to illuminate it, one 5K lamp was positioned inside the building but in the Long Galle

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Posted: 28 Days 9 Hours ago by: MB

At least you get to see them A few weeks before the Daily Maxwell picks up the story so you do not have to touch that disreputable rag.

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Posted: 28 Days 9 Hours ago by: Woody

Rest assured, it is still in Worcestershire - by a country mile and a bit beyond!

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Posted: 28 Days 10 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

Is it anywhere near the edge? There were a lot of border changes in, IIRR, 1974. Were you there before that? (That was when a lot of the new counties - like Tyne and Wear, Cleveland, and Avon - were created, but also lots of borders tw

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Posted: 28 Days 10 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Aren't all local rag articles? Inspiration seems to come mainly from 1) The highway code and infeasible ways you might get fined thousands 2) Martin Lewis says "do abc" 3) Stories picked from reddit that are not even from the UK, let a

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Posted: 28 Days 11 Hours ago by: SimonM

Do I remember correctly that one of the lighting TMs actually cracked one of the big (and thick) glass panes by putting a 5k outside too close to it? Morally certain of the story, and I have a feeling it was one of the Wood Norton tut

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Posted: 28 Days 11 Hours ago by: SimonM

Bad form, etc. but... There's no by-line, which is probably just as well, since it's full of mistakes. Greg Dyke is referred to as "Commissioner General" (I think this is a Salvation Army rank, incidentally). Written by a work-experi

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Posted: 28 Days 11 Hours ago by: SimonM

Details, details!

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Posted: 28 Days 12 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

When I was there I'm pretty sure it was in Worcestershire. Rod.

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: MB

The media have "discovered" Wood Norton though they were shown around in about 1965 and it was in most national newspapeers! Inside the secret Gloucestershire bunker owned by the BBC https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/whats-on/inside

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Posted: 29 Days 8 Hours ago by: MB

Parking at Raigmore is free, I was up regularly for my cataracts and never failed to find a parking space. The local hospital has very limited parking even for staff so no parking for patients and family. We used to occasionally go to

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Posted: 29 Days 10 Hours ago by: John Williamson

My local hospital lets you stay for 20 minutes free of charge, and uses ANPR to calculate the amount you need to pay, only opening the exit barrier after you have paid. This is also done usig ANPR. If you are an in patient, you get fre

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In article <t3rvki$rs2$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> scribeth thus Well the ones at Addenbrookes aren't too expensive, if your a in-patient there you get a concession. Had to go there the other day mate of mine left his car lights

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