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From: dal...@dalekelly.org (Dale)
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Subject: Re: combine two jpegs?
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 by: Dale - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:52 UTC

On 3/13/2022 5:36 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 3/13/2022 3:35 AM, Dale wrote:
>> On 3/11/2022 9:21 PM, Dale wrote:
>>> combine two jpegs?
>>>
>>> Windows default program? Photos or Paint?
>>>
>>> Adobe Creative Cloud Express leaves messy text. The jpegs are from a
>>> PDF exported from Adobe Acrobat Pro DC
>>>
>>> PDF is fine, and look fine in Adobe Acrobat Pro DC
>>>
>>> Photoshop Express or plain Photoshop? Creative Cloud?
>>>
>>
>>
>> got it pretty much done
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>> one example ...
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>>
>>
>> coded one HTML from scratch and used Adobe Acrobat Pro DC to make one
>> PDF from it
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/resume.html
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/resume.pdf
>
> I suspect you could have done some of this for $0 using LibreOffice.
>
>    https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/
>
> Since that's the same as a Microsoft suite, it will fight to register
> some of the same document types as are already in use. If you don't
> have any paid Microsoft tools on there, then LibreOffice would be
> a clearer advantage.
>
> As for picking images out of PDF, LibreOffice Draw offers to
> present a PDF as an image. Which may or may not be good enough.
>
> Another tool is here. This is a tool for dealing with PDF.
>
> https://www.mupdf.com/releases/index.html
>
> Instructions here.
>
> https://www.mupdf.com/docs/mutool.html
>
>   "mutool extract [options] file.pdf [object numbers]
>
>    Options:
>
>    -p password
>        Use the specified password if the file is encrypted.
>    -r
>        Convert images to RGB when extracting them.
>
>    If no object numbers are given on the command line, all images and
> fonts will be extracted.
>   "
>
> cd /d C:\users\dale\Downloads
> mutool extract fileofimages.pdf
>
> and that should give a folder with image materials
> in it. Those materials could then be used in LibreOffice
> Writer, to create a new document and save as PDF when done.
>
> *******
>
> By extracting your "DaleRKelly122717.pdf", I can see you've
> solved the problem with jaggies :-) Normally when you copy text in
> an image format, it tends to have jaggies on the letters. Using
> super-high resolution, then squeezing the images into an 8.5x11 page
> gives nice smooth font edges.
>
> File Name                       : image-0005.png
> File Size                       : 376 kB
> Image Width                     : 5088
> Image Height                    : 6688
> Bit Depth                       : 8
> Color Type                      : Grayscale
> Megapixels                      : 34.0
>
> File Name                       : image-0009.png
> File Size                       : 252 kB
> Image Width                     : 5090
> Image Height                    : 6672
> Bit Depth                       : 8
> Color Type                      : Grayscale
> Megapixels                      : 34.0
>
> That's just to show I was able to get the images in the PDF,
> back out again.
>
>    Paul

Thank You for the expert response Paul!!!!

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Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: Mayayana - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:36 UTC

"Dale" <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote

| got it pretty much done
| | https://www.dalekelly.org/
| |
| | Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
| one example ...
|

Not to be a wet towel, but it's not news that you can do
these things if you spend an arm and a leg on rental software,
especially when all of it could have been done well and easily
with free software.

One note: You should add a META tag for UTF-8 to your
webpages, or else remove the unnecessary UTF-8 characters.
It's rendering in ANSI. (At least in my browsers. I don't know
if there's a browser that might default to UTF-8 when there's
not text encoding tag, but certainly not all browsers do.)

Apparently Adobe's editor writes UTF-8
without telling you but then doesn't add the tag. It's especially
dumb on their part because in the English language, UTF-8
is rarely needed. It's mostly used just for spaces and quotes.
So using it in English-language webpages is more about a diversity
fad than about legibility, because without those extra characters,
English ANSI is identicial to ASCII and UTF-8, so all people with
all character encoding settings will see the text uncorrupted.
Even if they're in Turkey using a Turkish codepage, your page
will render in perfect English.

As it's written now, the UTF-8
characters, using multiple bytes over 127, will render according
to a viewer's codepage. For example, for the UTF-8 apostrophe
in "Jehovah's" I see "a" with a caret, a Euro sign, and a trademark
sign. Jehovah–s. Someone in Turkey will see 3 Turkish
characters. In Russia they'll see 3 of their characters. And so on.
But if you had just used an ASCII/ANSI apostrophe, the
whole world would see an apostrophe.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:08 UTC

On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
[]
>Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>one example ...
>
>https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>
There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
(Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
Repeatably.
>
>
>coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>
>https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
[]
Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Actors are fairly modest...A lot of us have quite a lot to be modest about. -
Simon Greenall (voice of Aleksandr the "Simples!" Meerkat), RT 11-17 Dec 2010

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:18 UTC

On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 08:51:26, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 3/13/2022 5:36 AM, Paul wrote:
>> I suspect you could have done some of this for $0 using LibreOffice.
>
>
>Some of the PDF files I exported were from LibreOffice *.odt files I edited.
>
>LibreOffice doesn't save a good HTML so I have to open the *.odt file
>in Microsoft Word and save-as HTML there.
>
>But I really wanted original HTML files. My CSS too.
>
Wow, if the HTML produced by Word is _better_ than something, that
something must be _really_ bad. (Unless Word's HTML has vastly improved
in recent versions, which I doubt!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Actors are fairly modest...A lot of us have quite a lot to be modest about. -
Simon Greenall (voice of Aleksandr the "Simples!" Meerkat), RT 11-17 Dec 2010

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:28 UTC

On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 05:36:30, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
[]
>As for picking images out of PDF, LibreOffice Draw offers to
>present a PDF as an image. Which may or may not be good enough.
>
>Another tool is here. This is a tool for dealing with PDF.
>
>https://www.mupdf.com/releases/index.html
[]
Looks a bit github-like (-:

For a *GUI* tool to extract images from PDFs, I use
https://www.rlvision.com/pdfwiz/about.php - though I normally use
https://www.extractpdf.com/ as I find it easier. (OK, it's an online
tool - but I don't have privacy concerns; since most of the PDFs I'm
working on are to do with genealogy, they're usually [a] about people
who've been dead for centuries [b] easily-obtained documents anyway!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Actors are fairly modest...A lot of us have quite a lot to be modest about. -
Simon Greenall (voice of Aleksandr the "Simples!" Meerkat), RT 11-17 Dec 2010

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 by: Apd - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:54 UTC

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale wrote:
>>https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
> []
> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.

UMS1.jpg 1,762,770 bytes, 5088 x 6688 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)
UMS2.jpg 1,238,072 bytes, 5090 x 6672 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)

They are unnecessarily large in MB and dimensions for B/W textual
images. They could be reduced to 20% of their width & height and to
16 colours (4 bits per pixel) with no loss of information and appear
the same as they do on the web page. Saved as a PNG file, the first
is only 112 KB.

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 by: Chris - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:46 UTC

J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
> responses usually FOLLOW):
> []
>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>> one example ...
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>
> There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
> I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
> (Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
> paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
> Repeatably.
>>
>>
>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
> []
> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.

What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.

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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:05 UTC

Chris wrote:

> Any institution that gives
> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.

The clue might be in the name of the institution?

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 by: nospam - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:20 UTC

In article <t0lakv$vjs$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.

true. all it takes is a few photos of some books, as 'arlen' has shown,
something which should take no more than 4 minutes.

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 by: Dale - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 19:37 UTC

On 3/13/2022 1:46 PM, Chris wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
>> responses usually FOLLOW):
>> []
>>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>>> one example ...
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>>
>> There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
>> I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
>> (Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
>> paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
>> Repeatably.
>>>
>>>
>>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>> []
>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>
> What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.
>

the original transcripts were PDF format

https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf

you get about 90 courses

each course has around 25-to-75 8.5x11 pages

many of them have 15-30 minute guided meditations

the designs of the courses are excellent

you can repeat the courses as many times as you need to pass

great support along the way

up to a first doctorate only costs $900 now

https://metaphysicsuniversity.com/

added tremendously to my spiritual progression

--
Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 21:01 UTC

On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 14:54:29, Apd <not@all.invalid> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale wrote:
>>>https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>> []
>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>
>UMS1.jpg 1,762,770 bytes, 5088 x 6688 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)
>UMS2.jpg 1,238,072 bytes, 5090 x 6672 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)
>
>They are unnecessarily large in MB and dimensions for B/W textual
>images. They could be reduced to 20% of their width & height and to
>16 colours (4 bits per pixel) with no loss of information and appear
>the same as they do on the web page. Saved as a PNG file, the first
>is only 112 KB.
>
I agree, they're far too big and deep for the purpose they serve
(arguably 1 BPP would do at the full resolution, or as you say no more
than 4 at a reduced one). But even at 5k by 7k pixels (35M), I wouldn't
have expected them to crash Chrome. (In my old Firefox, the HTML file
wouldn't scroll down, either.) At least, not in the way they did: it
displayed them, but wouldn't let me "copy image"; if they were going to
crash it, I'd have thought they'd do so on opening; for it to be able to
display them, it must have loaded them.
>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The Daily Mail has led the campaign to limit pornography - "it demeans and
belittles women," they explain, "and that's our job." (Sandi Toksvig
[scripted], News Quiz 2013-7-26.)

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 by: Chris - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 21:10 UTC

Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
> On 3/13/2022 1:46 PM, Chris wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
>>> responses usually FOLLOW):
>>> []
>>>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>>>> one example ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>>>
>>> There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
>>> I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
>>> (Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
>>> paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
>>> Repeatably.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>>> []
>>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>>
>> What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
>> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.
>>
>
> the original transcripts were PDF format
>
> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>
> you get about 90 courses
>
> each course has around 25-to-75 8.5x11 pages
>
> many of them have 15-30 minute guided meditations
>
> the designs of the courses are excellent
>
> you can repeat the courses as many times as you need to pass

What do you need to do to pass? Is it possible to fail?

> great support along the way
>
> up to a first doctorate only costs $900 now

Not a doctorate.

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 00:44 UTC

On 3/13/2022 5:10 PM, Chris wrote:
> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>> On 3/13/2022 1:46 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
>>>> responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>> []
>>>>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>>>>> one example ...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
>>>> I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
>>>> (Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
>>>> paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
>>>> Repeatably.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>>>> []
>>>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>>>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>>>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>>>
>>> What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
>>> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.
>>>
>>
>> the original transcripts were PDF format
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>
>> you get about 90 courses
>>
>> each course has around 25-to-75 8.5x11 pages
>>
>> many of them have 15-30 minute guided meditations
>>
>> the designs of the courses are excellent

>>
>> you can repeat the courses as many times as you need to pass

>
> What do you need to do to pass? Is it possible to fail?

80% test grade

approval of experience reported on guided meditations

approval on dissertations and creative projects

yes, you can fail, but you can repeat at no extra cost, if you fail
three times in a row you have to have a support discussion to move on

>
>> great support along the way
>>
>> up to a first doctorate only costs $900 now

>
> Not a doctorate.
>

I have a Philosopher of Metaphysics PhD, that is a doctorate

I am working on a second doctorate, Doctor of Divinity in Spiritual
Counseling D.D.

--
Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 00:53 UTC

On 3/13/2022 5:01 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 14:54:29, Apd <not@all.invalid> wrote (my
> responses usually FOLLOW):
>> "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale wrote:
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>>> []
>>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>>
>> UMS1.jpg 1,762,770 bytes, 5088 x 6688 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)
>> UMS2.jpg 1,238,072 bytes, 5090 x 6672 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)
>>
>> They are unnecessarily large in MB and dimensions for B/W textual
>> images. They could be reduced to 20% of their width & height and to
>> 16 colours (4 bits per pixel) with no loss of information and appear
>> the same as they do on the web page. Saved as a PNG file, the first
>> is only 112 KB.
>>
> I agree, they're far too big and deep for the purpose they serve
> (arguably 1 BPP would do at the full resolution, or as you say no more
> than 4 at a reduced one). But even at 5k by 7k pixels (35M), I wouldn't
> have expected them to crash Chrome. (In my old Firefox, the HTML file
> wouldn't scroll down, either.) At least, not in the way they did: it
> displayed them, but wouldn't let me "copy image"; if they were going to
> crash it, I'd have thought they'd do so on opening; for it to be able to
> display them, it must have loaded them.
>>

okay, I will work on that

--
Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: Chris - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 11:11 UTC

Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
> On 3/13/2022 5:10 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/13/2022 1:46 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
>>>>> responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>>> []
>>>>>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>>>>>> one example ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>> There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
>>>>> I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
>>>>> (Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
>>>>> paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
>>>>> Repeatably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>>>>> []
>>>>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>>>>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>>>>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>>>>
>>>> What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
>>>> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> the original transcripts were PDF format
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>>
>>> you get about 90 courses
>>>
>>> each course has around 25-to-75 8.5x11 pages
>>>
>>> many of them have 15-30 minute guided meditations
>>>
>>> the designs of the courses are excellent
>
>
>
>>>
>>> you can repeat the courses as many times as you need to pass
>
>
>
>>
>> What do you need to do to pass? Is it possible to fail?
>
> 80% test grade

What are the tests?

> approval of experience reported on guided meditations
>
> approval on dissertations and creative projects
>
> yes, you can fail, but you can repeat at no extra cost, if you fail
> three times in a row you have to have a support discussion to move on

So you really can't fail. Got it.

>
>>
>>> great support along the way
>>>
>>> up to a first doctorate only costs $900 now
>
>
>>
>> Not a doctorate.
>>
>
> I have a Philosopher of Metaphysics PhD, that is a doctorate

Nope. If all you did is pay $900 and spent four months on it then it's not
a recognisable doctorate or PhD or whatever.

What's the title of your thesis?

> I am working on a second doctorate, Doctor of Divinity in Spiritual
> Counseling D.D.

Sure.

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 by: RJH - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 11:32 UTC

On 14 Mar 2022 at 00:44:55 GMT, "Dale" <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

> On 3/13/2022 5:10 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/13/2022 1:46 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 03:35:37, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote (my
>>>>> responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>>> []
>>>>>> Used Adobe Creative Cloud Express to turn PDF's into jpegs
>>>>>> one example ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS1.jpg
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS2.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>> There's something _very_ odd about those two .jpg files - or the server.
>>>>> I can _view_ them by entering the URL into Chrome [Version 92.0.4515.159
>>>>> (Official Build) (32-bit)], but as soon as I, say, try to copy them (to
>>>>> paste into IrfanView or similar to examine them), the tab crashes.
>>>>> Repeatably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> coded HTML to combine jpegs, one example ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/UMS.html
>>>>> []
>>>>> Again, I can _open_ that in Chrome, when I see the menu and top of the
>>>>> first image, but as soon as I press page down (for some reason I don't
>>>>> get a scroll bar), the tab crashes.
>>>>
>>>> What's most odd is the contents of those images. Any institution that gives
>>>> out degrees (incl. Masters and PhDs) in only 4 months is bullshit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> the original transcripts were PDF format
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf
>>>
>>> you get about 90 courses
>>>
>>> each course has around 25-to-75 8.5x11 pages
>>>
>>> many of them have 15-30 minute guided meditations
>>>
>>> the designs of the courses are excellent
>
>
>
>>>
>>> you can repeat the courses as many times as you need to pass
>
>
>
>>
>> What do you need to do to pass? Is it possible to fail?
>
> 80% test grade
>
> approval of experience reported on guided meditations
>
> approval on dissertations and creative projects
>
> yes, you can fail, but you can repeat at no extra cost, if you fail
> three times in a row you have to have a support discussion to move on
>
>
>>
>>> great support along the way
>>>
>>> up to a first doctorate only costs $900 now
>
>
>>
>> Not a doctorate.
>>
>
> I have a Philosopher of Metaphysics PhD, that is a doctorate
>

I'd doubt it has much currency for, say, academic work.

An infamous Irish politician bought something similar from the US - constant
source of embarrassment while he insisted on being referred to as 'doctor'.

In any event, the 'modules' you've passed don't look like metaphysics to me -
'folklore and fantasy' perhaps?

> I am working on a second doctorate, Doctor of Divinity in Spiritual
> Counseling D.D.

Good grief.

--
Cheers, Rob

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 by: Mayayana - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:07 UTC

"RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote

| > I am working on a second doctorate, Doctor of Divinity in Spiritual
| > Counseling D.D.
| | Good grief.
| On the other hand, why should any school be able to
offer a degree in spiritual counseling? What if he got it
from Harvard? (They offer such degrees. I know people
personally who have got similar degrees from Harvard
and Yale.) Would you want a 35-year-old academic
advising you on life decisions, just because they bought
the most expensive level of official authorization by reading
lots of books and theories?

Then there's the for-profit university trend. You can get
a degree online from an accredited school if you have a HS
diploma or GED.

And look at the psychotherapy industry. Lots of official
education, but they're turning out people on happy pills who
complain about not feeling "safe" if they're expected to
act like adults. The main expertise among psychotherapists
seems to be in keeping their customers coming back... And
they're getting better at it.

So... who knows... maybe Dale has a big heart. At least
he won't be running around telling people they have "ADHD"
and need to be taking speed. :)

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 by: Piet - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:44 UTC

RJH wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> I am working on a second doctorate, Doctor of Divinity in Spiritual
>> Counseling D.D.
>
> Good grief.

Sounds like a doctorate in Unlimited Fantasy.

-p

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 by: Herbert Kleebauer - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:57 UTC

On 14.03.2022 01:53, Dale wrote:

>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/images/DaleRKelly122717.pdf (165 kB)

The pdf contains both pages already as images (and not as text).

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/Columns 5088/Rows 6688>>/Height 6688/Type/XObject>>stream

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which you convert to:

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/ColorSpace/DeviceGray/Width 5090/DecodeParms<</K -1/
Columns 5090/Rows 6672>>/Height 6672/Type/XObject>>stream

102826 bytes, 5090 x 6672 Pixels for the picture of the second page
which you convert to:

>>> UMS2.jpg 1,238,072 bytes, 5090 x 6672 Pixels, 256 colours (8 BPP)

> okay, I will work on that

You should not recompress the pictures as jpeg (a bad format for
text) but just store them as gif or png. This retains the original
quality of the pdf and the size of both pictures together shouldn't be
more than the size of the pdf (165 kB).

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 by: Bucky Breeder - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:59 UTC

Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> posted this:

> I have a Philosopher of Metaphysics PhD, that is a doctorate
>
> I am working on a second doctorate, Doctor of Divinity in Spiritual
> Counseling D.D.

FYI, the real ones say "I am a Ph.D." not "I have a Ph.D."... in order to not
get shot by the FBI because you gave them probable cause to think you're a
kidnapper.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:25 UTC

On 3/14/2022 7:11 AM, Chris wrote:
> spent four months

spent a year

second doctorate on and off the backburner for 4 years

--
Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: Chris - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:40 UTC

Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 7:11 AM, Chris wrote:
>> spent four months
>
> spent a year
>
> second doctorate on and off the backburner for 4 years

"Masters" August 2017. "PhD" Feb 2018. OK 6 months at best. Still nowhere
near enough for a real PhD which in the US is easily 4-7 years.

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 by: Paul - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 00:19 UTC

On 3/14/2022 9:57 AM, Herbert Kleebauer wrote:

> You should not recompress the pictures as jpeg (a bad format for
> text) but just store them as gif or png. This retains the original
> quality of the pdf and the size of both pictures together shouldn't be
> more than the size of the pdf (165 kB).

We could make a contest out of it :-)

But I don't think that's what Dale had in mind.

This turned out to be harder than expected, due to what looks
like a lot of bodgery in the TIF domain. It's like people threw
away a lot of functionality, rather then harden the library and
keep all of it.

It doesn't matter that the intermediate files are "fat" as long
as the final result is good.

UMS1.jpg 1,762,770 bytes
Gimp 2.6 Save as PBM UMS1.pbm 34,514,718 bytes # Save as ASCII, examine in Notepad :-)
# This is just a way to get color reduction to B/W

Windows 10
bash # Installing bash/ubuntu is harder than it needs to be
sudo apt install netpbm
pnmtotif UMS1.pbm > UMS1.tif 4,257,139 bytes # Uncompressed but is 1 bit B/W

Gimp 2.6 Open UMS1.tif
Save As UMS1a.tif, CCITT4 113,414 bytes # Gimp would not offer CCITT4 unless you
# open a B/W TIF and then just try to save it.

Thanks to busted tools (compared to how this stuff used to work),
this was harder to navigate than I expected.
It looks like someone ripped the guts out of netpbm.

CCITT4 is two-dimensional compression. If UMS1.tif was placed
into Adobe Acrobat Distiller, it should produce the 113K sized output
as well. I selected TIF because I knew it had CCITT4 and could
be used standalone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_4_compression

I can't upload the TIF to PostImage, because it converts it
to PNG which is twice as big.

It's like "everybody hates TIF day" or something :-)

That's the best I could do, without buying anything. Just the
Win10 that happens to be on the machine right now. I could do
all those steps in Ubuntu or Linux Mint.

The PDF compression method is better than my attempt, which
means there must be an even better way of doing this (contest) :-)
Adobe seems to be 2x better than me at this game :-) Hmmm.

Doing OCR on it, it would be hard to match that font, whatever
that font is. OCR would use something awful like Times-Roman
or the like. But OCR (Optical Character Recognition)
would perform "the best compression of all".

Paul

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 by: Dale - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 01:40 UTC

On 3/14/2022 8:19 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 9:57 AM, Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>
>> You should not recompress the pictures as jpeg (a bad format for
>> text) but just store them as gif or png. This retains the original
>> quality of the pdf and the size of both pictures together shouldn't be
>> more than the size of the pdf (165 kB).
>
> We could make a contest out of it :-)
>
> But I don't think that's what Dale had in mind.
>
> This turned out to be harder than expected, due to what looks
> like a lot of bodgery in the TIF domain. It's like people threw
> away a lot of functionality, rather then harden the library and
> keep all of it.
>
> It doesn't matter that the intermediate files are "fat" as long
> as the final result is good.
>
>                          UMS1.jpg     1,762,770 bytes
> Gimp 2.6   Save as PBM   UMS1.pbm    34,514,718 bytes   # Save as ASCII,
> examine in Notepad :-)
>                                                         # This is just
> a way to get color reduction to B/W
>
> Windows 10
>    bash                                                 # Installing
> bash/ubuntu is harder than it needs to be
>    sudo apt install netpbm
>    pnmtotif UMS1.pbm > UMS1.tif       4,257,139 bytes   # Uncompressed
> but is 1 bit B/W
>
> Gimp 2.6 Open UMS1.tif
>          Save As UMS1a.tif, CCITT4      113,414 bytes   # Gimp would
> not offer CCITT4 unless you
>                                                         # open a B/W
> TIF and then just try to save it.
>
> Thanks to busted tools (compared to how this stuff used to work),
> this was harder to navigate than I expected.
> It looks like someone ripped the guts out of netpbm.
>
> CCITT4 is two-dimensional compression. If UMS1.tif was placed
> into Adobe Acrobat Distiller, it should produce the 113K sized output
> as well. I selected TIF because I knew it had CCITT4 and could
> be used standalone.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_4_compression
>
> I can't upload the TIF to PostImage, because it converts it
> to PNG which is twice as big.
>
> It's like "everybody hates TIF day" or something :-)
>
> That's the best I could do, without buying anything. Just the
> Win10 that happens to be on the machine right now. I could do
> all those steps in Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
>
> The PDF compression method is better than my attempt, which
> means there must be an even better way of doing this (contest) :-)
> Adobe seems to be 2x better than me at this game :-) Hmmm.
>
> Doing OCR on it, it would be hard to match that font, whatever
> that font is. OCR would use something awful like Times-Roman
> or the like. But OCR (Optical Character Recognition)
>  would perform "the best compression of all".
>
>    Paul

Thank You !!!!

I didn't want to buy Photoshop.

I might install GIMP again ...

--
Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: Andy Burns - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 07:02 UTC

Paul wrote:

> CCITT4 is two-dimensional compression.

CCITT T.4 (as used in group 3 fax) is just one dimensional,
CCITT T.6 (as used in group 4 fax) is two dimensional ...

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