On 2023-05-13, Nic wrote:
> On Sat, 13 May 2023 16:27:12 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>
>>On 2023-05-12, Nic wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 May 2023 11:52:24 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2023-05-10, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2023 14:16:45 +0200
>>>>> Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 5/10/23 00:01, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> and printed with no problem. On a hunch I loaded a live distro of
>>>>>>> LMDE5 and the problem printer from undecided Ubuntu hell printed
>>>>>>> nicely. It is time for me to switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am curious what I live distro from your current version does.
>>>>>>I guess it will work just as good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Edmund
>>>>>
>>>>> I booted a live LM 20.3 and this version could not detect my
>>>>> HL-L2325DW printer. I would like to know how to add this printer to
>>>>> the list of printers (and where it is located. It seems that the
>>>>> dividing line for
>>>>
>>>>You install Brother's CUPSWrapper driver...
>>>>> a functional Brother printer is around $400+ American Dollars,
>>>>> anything below that might be considered a bottomless pit of expenses
>>>>> for toner... Look at some of the cheaper HP laser printers, they
>>>>> require
>>>>
>>>>Huh, I have an old HL2100W (was like a hundred bucks) that is just as
>>>>inexpensive to get toner for as my big multifunction copier thing (in
>>>>terms of price / page ... at least in B&W).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Look carefully and come back to report. If you are looking for a
>>> printer that is 'on the list' see open printers.org, then you have to
>>> set your sights to that $400 printer. Consider that all those business
>>> majors have charted the course for the printer market. That is unless
>>> you are open to a used printer market, but like all hardware if it is
>>> used it is on its way out.
>>
>>openprinting.org is nice and all; but last time I checked, only tracks
>>those printers that utilize opensource drivers (and don't indicate if
>>there's a proprietary driver).
>>
>>I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to get at. I grabbed said random
>>Brother printer because it was a hundred bucks back when I bought it new
>>in 2008 or 2009.
>>
>>Didn't even check if it worked with Linux, beyond "do they have a Linux
>>driver on their website?" (yes, they did).
>
> Is it possible to purchase your printer new today? So your choices of
> 15 years ago are not applicable in today's market. The low end HP

And yet, it's the exact same thought process I would use today -- "does
the manufacturer have a Linux driver?" (If yes, buy the cheapo printer,
with full knowledge it's a loss-leader to force me to buy their toner).

> printers of today require an internet connection to function, because
> they measure the toner very carefully. Other companies such as Brother

Good thing I don't buy "new" HP then, lowend or otherwise.

> take a different approach, they use a chip to determine authentic
> toner cartridges, the money is in repeated purchases of ink/toner. My

And even at "authentic Brother" prices, a full rack of CMYK lasts so
long in my MFC machine that it just doesn't really matter what they're
doing internally to "force" me to use their carts (not like I wouldn't
anyway, too much bad taste in my mouth from refurbished options back in
college).

> point is that if you look at the openprinter selections, they are
> either out of production or above that $400 threshold.

I think you missed a few key points here:

1. Open Printing is a "community driven" site
2. Open Printing only cares about open-source drivers.

So, if people are buying something that the manufacturer just has a
driver for on their website (for example the $120 HL-L2305W ... because
I like network-able printers), chances you'll find it on the open
printing site are low. Well, with the caveat that many brother printers
*do* work with the opensource PCL driver, so ...

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